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Re: U.S. Army soldier fled to North Korea because of racism
« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2023, 06:33:55 PM »
Go do your steroids.

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Re: U.S. Army soldier fled to North Korea because of racism
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2023, 06:47:35 PM »
Like usual... HUH??????? ???

Right, wtf was just said there? Hahaha. You gotta wonder if gthang rambles like this in public and people think he just escaped an insane asylum.

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Re: U.S. Army soldier fled to North Korea because of racism
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2023, 10:23:24 PM »
On one hand you have kids like Otto Warmbier who was arrested January 2016 during a study trip to North Korea for allegedly stealing a propaganda poster.

He was sentenced to 15 years hard labour but was returned to the U.S. in 2017, horribly injured and on the verge of death after suffering intense torture in prison.

Ont the other hand you got creeps like Matthew Miller who was actually trying to get arrested there and was apparently "looking forward" to being subjected to torture.

( his story doesn't sound right anyway )


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/20/-sp-north-korea-matthew-miller

For most people visiting North Korea, the prospect of being arrested during their trip is a source of some concern. But for 25-year old Californian Matthew Miller, it’s exactly what he hoped for.

“My main fear was that they would not arrest me when I arrived,”

“I was trying to stay in the country,” said Miller. “They wanted me to leave. The very first night they said, ‘We want you to leave on the next flight.’ But I refused. I just did not leave.”

On his flight from China to Pyongyang, Miller had intentionally damaged his tourist visa. Fifteen days later, after a series of run-ins with Pyongyang authorities, he was removed from his tourist hotel and detained.

Miller says it was only after much persuasion on his part that authorities finally took him in.

Finally, at a show trial in September, he was sentenced to six years of hard labour for entering the country illegally and committing “hostile acts” against the state – a charge he now describes as both true and false.

They wanted me to leave. The very first night they said, ‘We want you to leave on the next flight.’ But I refused. I just did not leave

Snapshots of pages torn from Miller’s notebook were circulated by state media, after his show trial, revealing statements he now describes as strategic lies to help with his attempt to remain in North Korea. In it, entries appeared to show support for removing “the American military from South Korea” and included claims that Miller was a “hacker” with some involvement with Wikileaks.

“I wrote the notebook in China just before going to North Korea,” said Miller. “The purpose was just having it written is easier than explaining in person. Since it was filled with a number of extravagant things… perhaps the notebook was a little too much over the top, they instantly knew it was false and wanted to know my true purpose of visiting.”

The true purpose, Miller insists, was to simply learn for himself what North Korea was all about.

“I was not there to give secret information or anything like that. I just wanted to speak to an ordinary North Korean person about normal things,” he said.

“I think it was mistake but it was successful,” he said over several days of interviews.

“I was in control of my situation. I knew the risks and consequences. My trip has probably resulted in no change for anyone, except for me. I do feel guilt for the crime. It was a crime. I wasted a lot of time of the North Koreans’ and the Americans’, of all of the officials who spent time with my case.”

Miller said he had prepared himself for the ordeal he believed he would face in detention, but was surprised by how well he was treated. He was allowed to keep possession of his iPhone and iPad for “at least a month” after his arrival in North Korea, enabling him to listen to music and access other stored information, although he could not use them to send or receive messages from elsewhere.

“This might sound strange, but I was prepared for the ‘torture’. But instead of that I was killed with kindness, and with that my mind folded and the plan fell apart,” he said, speaking from his home in California.

Miller said he was initially held in the Yanggakdo International Hotel in Pyongyang, where he said North Korean officials urged him to leave the country, but he refused.

I was not there to give secret information or anything like that. I just wanted to speak to an ordinary North Korean person about normal things

He was not formally detained until his third week in North Korea, when he was moved to what he described as a “guest house” – the same place where he said fellow American Kenneth Bae was being held – along with several other unidentified prisoners. Miller would ultimately stay there for five more months.

At the “guest house” he was kept in a room locked from the outside under stricter detention. “They would deliver me food. There were other prisoners in the guest house, too. I could hear them unlocking the doors from the outside to deliver them food,” he said.

After he was formally tried, convicted, and sentenced on 14 September to six years of “hard labour”, he was moved again to a more conventional prison facility on the outskirts of Pyongyang. “It was kind of a farm place,” Miller said. “They had all control. I would go out to work to move stones, take out weeds.”

As part of the show trial, Miller had apologised to the North Korean regime for his crimes, an apology he now insists was genuine.

“I wanted to meet North Korean people face to face in a way that a normal tour would not be enough,” said Miller.” I spent a good five months having many conversations with various people.”

Miller said he became particularly friendly with a translator he met on his first day in the country. “We met everyday and would have conversations. We would play billiards together.”

“He said he was a tour guide for five years and then moved up the ranks. He said he was with [former NBA player] Dennis Rodman during Kim Jong-un’s birthday. He said he travelled overseas on business trips. He spoke perfect English,” said Miller.

However, he is not yet ready to share the details of the other conversations he so desperately wanted.

“I might elaborate on that or I might just keep it as a personal experience,”

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Re: U.S. Army soldier fled to North Korea because of racism
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2023, 11:53:17 PM »
People these days

I do not understand them


You avoid North Korea like the Plague, unless you have a death wish

Nobody gets treated well there, not even their own citizens
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Re: U.S. Army soldier fled to North Korea because of racism
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2023, 12:17:06 AM »
People these days

I do not understand them


You avoid North Korea like the Plague, unless you have a death wish

Nobody gets treated well there, not even their own citizens
Dennis Rodman gets treated like royalty.

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Re: U.S. Army soldier fled to North Korea because of racism
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2023, 06:56:56 AM »
Dennis Rodman gets treated :P like royalty.

Kim is obsessed with basketball. It"s a known fact from his school days in Switzerland.

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Re: U.S. Army soldier fled to North Korea because of racism
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2023, 03:50:41 PM »
North Korea to US.   You can have you black back...
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Re: U.S. Army soldier fled to North Korea because of racism
« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2023, 03:52:34 PM »
beat me to it


https://kcnawatch.org/newstream/1695814510-607081799/kcna-report-on-final-findings-of-investigation-into-american-solider/

KCNA Report on Final Findings of Investigation into American Solider
Date: 27/09/2023 | Source: KCNA.kp (En) | Read original version at source


Pyongyang, September 27 (KCNA) -- The investigation into Travis King, a soldier of the U.S. Army who was detained after illegally intruding into the territory of the DPRK in the joint security area of Panmunjom on July 18, has been finished.

According to the investigation by a relevant organ of the DPRK, Travis King confessed that he illegally intruded into the territory of the DPRK as he harbored ill feeling against inhuman maltreatment and racial discrimination within the U.S. army and was disillusioned about the unequal U.S. society.

The relevant organ of the DPRK decided to expel Travis King, a soldier of the U.S. Army who illegally intruded into the territory of the DPRK, under the law of the Republic. -0-

www.kcna.kp (Juche112.9.27.)






Sullivan is already patting himself on the back

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/27/asia/north-korea-travis-king-expel-intl/index.html

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US Army Private Travis King has been returned to American custody, two US officials said Wednesday, weeks after he crossed into North Korea.

US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan confirmed that the US has “secured the return of Private Travis King” in a statement on Wednesday morning.

“We appreciate the dedication of the interagency team that has worked tirelessly out of concern for Private King’s wellbeing. In addition, we thank the government of Sweden for its diplomatic role serving as the protecting power for the United States in the DPRK and the government of the People’s Republic of China for its assistance in facilitating the transit of Private King,” Sullivan said in the statement.

Earlier North Korean state media KCNA reported that the secretive state had decided “to expel” King, who entered its territory during a tour of the Joint Security Area (JSA) between North and South Korea in July.

The KCNA report said a North Korean investigation into King “has been finished.”

US officials said King was released after “intense diplomacy” between multiple countries culminating in Wednesday’s transfer across the border into China and onward to US custody.

“The US government has successfully facilitated Private Travis King’s departure from the DPRK. His transfer culminates a monthslong effort involving multiple US government agencies undertaken out of concern for Private King’s well-being and a desire to reunite him with his family,” a senior administration official said.

King is expected to be taken to Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio upon his return to the US, two US officials said.

Located at Joint Base San Antonio-Fort Sam Houston, the medical center is the largest hospital within the Defense Department, according to the hospital’s website.

Brooke Army Medical Center also has a Department of Defense Program known as PISA (Post Isolation Support Activities) to help Americans acclimate back to normal life after being detained. Both Trevor Reed and Brittney Griner went there after they were released from detention in Russia.

Asked when King would travel to the United States, the officials said “relatively soon” but could not say specifically when he was traveling.

Sweden and China’s involvement

The Pentagon released a statement thanking the Chinese and Swedish governments for their assistance in securing King’s release.

“U.S. officials have secured the return of Private Travis King from the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK). We appreciate the hard work of personnel in the Army, United States Forces Korea, and across the Department of Defense to bring Private King home, and we thank the governments of Sweden and the People’s Republic of China (PRC) for their assistance,” Pentagon press secretary Brig. General Pat Ryder said in the statement.

Swedish embassy spokesman David Lunderquist confirmed that Sweden played a role in getting King released.

China’s role was limited to helping facilitate King’s transfer out of North Korea, but otherwise Bejing did not play a “mediating role,” a US official said.

The US received word earlier this month from Sweden, which acts as the US protecting power in North Korea, that Pyongyang wanted to release King.’

A spokesperson for King’s mother, Claudine Gates said she will be “forever grateful” for the efforts to free her son.

“Ms. Gates will be forever grateful to the United States Army and all its interagency partners for a job well done. For the foreseeable future, the family asks for privacy, and Ms. Gates does not intend to give any interviews,” the statement from Jonathan Franks said.

King, the senior administration official said, is in “good health and good spirits as he makes his way home.” Pressed by CNN’s Jeremy Diamond on whether King wanted to return to the US, the official said, it became “quite clear” to US diplomats that “Private King was very happy to be on his way home.”

Asked whether the US made any concessions to North Korea for the transfer, officials emphatically said no.

“The answer is simple: There were none. Full stop,” the senior official said.

President Joe Biden and other top administration leadership have been “closely briefed and following events as they unfold,” the official added.

US military officials have said that King “willfully and without authorization” crossed into North Korea in July. King had been released from a detention facility in South Korea just over a week before running across the demarcation line – punishment which appeared to stem from an October 2022 incident in which he allegedly pushed and punched a victim in the face at a club in Seoul, according to court documents.

Asked if King could be facing a court martial, or charges under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, an official emphasized that the focus for the next several weeks would be on King’s health as he gets back “on solid footing.”

“We’ll address any administrative actions that may follow after the reintegration process,” the official said.

The official added that the focus within the military is having a “very talented and experienced team” evaluate King and address “any medical and emotional concerns.” Asked about his absent without leave, or AWOL, status, the official said they would work through “all those administrative status questions following the completion of his reintegration.”

The officials facilitated a phone call between King and his family, an official said.


King is ‘looking forward to being reunited with his family’

“He is very much looking forward to being reunited with his family. That is the sentiment that is pervading all else right now,” an official said.

Asked whether Biden had spoken with Private King or his family, senior administration officials demurred, pointing instead to the call they facilitated between King and his family.

North Korea claimed on Wednesday that King has “confessed that he illegally intruded into the territory of the DPRK as he harbored ill feeling against inhuman maltreatment and racial discrimination within the U.S. army and was disillusioned about the unequal U.S. society.”

CNN cannot verify whether these are King’s own words.

There is no physical barrier inside the JSA, and a US official had previously said that after bolting over the demarcation line delineating the border, King tried to enter a North Korean facility – but the door was locked. He then ran to the back of the building, at which point he was hurried into a van and driven away by North Korean guards.

King, a cavalry scout who joined the military in January 2021, was released from a detention facility in South Korea just over a week before the incident, where he had served 50 days doing labor, defense officials told CNN.

The day before he crossed into North Korea, King was supposed to board a flight to Texas, where he was to face disciplinary procedures. But after Army escorts released him at a security checkpoint at Incheon International Airport near Seoul, King left the airport on his own.

The next day, he joined a tour of the JSA he had previously booked with a private company.

National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said last month that it “would not be out of character” for North Korea to use the US soldier as a propaganda tool or bargaining chip.

“They certainly could. … We haven’t seen any indication that that’s exactly what’s afoot here, but certainly would not be out of character for them,” Kirby told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “The Lead.” “What we’re focused on is trying to make sure we can get information about him.”

Kirby added at that time that King’s location was unclear, as well as “the conditions he’s being held” and information about his health.

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Re: U.S. Army soldier fled to North Korea because of racism
« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2023, 04:04:37 PM »

He's a black in an all Asian country...literally its 99.8.  They are prob going to to put him in a petting zoo, feed him bananas, and have visitors throw onions at him
have you been fed bananas and had onions thrown at you Twinkie?

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Re: U.S. Army soldier fled to North Korea because of racism
« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2023, 12:16:41 AM »
He'll have his first non rice meal in weeks.

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Re: U.S. Army soldier fled to North Korea because of racism
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2023, 05:29:33 PM »
Update from ABL:


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Re: U.S. Army soldier fled to North Korea because of racism
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2023, 05:37:41 PM »
Go do your steroids.

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Re: U.S. Army soldier fled to North Korea because of racism
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2023, 07:19:04 PM »
maybe it was all the pedophilia on his PC

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Re: U.S. Army soldier fled to North Korea because of racism
« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2023, 09:06:44 PM »
have you been fed bananas and had onions thrown at you Twinkie?


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