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I`ve seen a zillion cops and corrections officers on gear......just saying.

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Coffee is culturally important but it might be that coffee really is very benign. I was a heart patient and could drink coffee, nothing was said about it. I also used nicotine pouches, SNUS, in front of doctors and they didn't say anything about that either.

OT sort of but if you seek help for depresseion  that would be the worst time to cold turkey nicotine, same with coffee. This the psychiatrists say themselves. So they might actually tell a patient to keep smoking.

No argument there.

Caffeine causes the release of Dopamine, Noradrenaline and Serotonin. All 3 are actively involved in the regulation of your mood and at low levels can lead to depression. If you "cold turkey" coffee, you can in theory have rebound anxiety and depression symptoms. Moreover, if you cold turkey coffee, there is such a thing as a terrible coffee withdrawal headache, it can be brutal.

Side note, for anyone that uses SSRIs (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) like Prozac/Fluoxetine, Zoloft/Sertraline, Lexapro/Escitalopram, Celexa/Citalopram and Paxil/Paroxetine, these medications allow more availability of Serotonin in the brain which in turn helps to regulate both anxiety and depression. Likewise, there are other antidepressants like that of Wellbutrin/Bupropion that are NDRIs (Noradrenaline and Dopamine Reuptake Inhibitors), which allows for more Noradrenaline and Dopamine to be readily available in the brain, which also contribute to the regulation of the mood in an antidepressant fashion. That's how coffee can be one stone to kill 3 birds as it does similar to what SSRI's like Prozac + NDRI's like Wellbutrin do.

Nicotine is an interesting one. You can always substitute the Nicotine obtained from smoking with Nicotine gum, but it is in fact more of a psychological component that drives the addictive urge and therefore drives you to actually want to take part in the entire ritual of smoking (stepping outside, lighting it up, pacing yourself between puffs, speaking with others, wiping your forehead with the back of your hand as you let out a sigh of relief etc.). Personally, I sometimes chew Nicotine gum for the benefits towards my attention, concentration and focus. Nicotine causes the release of Dopamine and acetylcholine, both of which are highly beneficial for memory enhancement and overall cognition.

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I read that coffee and nicotine, separately, boost dopamine by 200%, cocaine by 2000%
And meth by 10,000 percent lol.

I use the bupropion NDRI, but I've read that irl it hardly touches dopamine. But a curious thing happened as I started using it. I doubled my nicotine pouch consumption, it was like I no longer felt the dopamine push from nicotine as easily. And it was used in smoking cessation.

I tried a choline boosting regimen recently. I took alpha-gpc, uridine and acetyl-carnitine and I thought it surely worked, I was less likely to procrastinate on tasks.

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I read that coffee and nicotine, separately, boost dopamine by 200%, cocaine by 2000%
And meth by 10,000 percent lol.

I use the bupropion NDRI, but I've read that irl it hardly touches dopamine. But a curious thing happened as I started using it. I doubled my nicotine pouch consumption, it was like I no longer felt the dopamine push from nicotine as easily. And it was used in smoking cessation.

I haven't tried Cocaine yet. One day, if I get the courage, I'd like to at least try it once to see what the big fuss is about.

Have you or anyone else tried it? Is it worth it?

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I haven't tried Cocaine yet. One day, if I get the courage, I'd like to at least try it once to see what the big fuss is about.

Have you or anyone else tried it? Is it worth it?

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I'm 46 and I first tried cocaine at 45! It gave a nice "push" like you get extremely confident. However I was on a lot of other shit that day so it didn't work THAT well. The guy offering it to me said, "good quality, this is the one you'll remember for the rest of your life, the one you'll keep chasing." I'd like to do it in a more sober state because it wasn't as good as I suspect it can be. But I will only use it if offered, it's too expensive to REALLY try out lol.

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I'm 46 and I first tried cocaine at 45! It gave a nice "push" like you get extremely confident. However I was on a lot of other shit that day so it didn't work THAT well. The guy offering it to me said, "good quality, this is the one you'll remember for the rest of your life, the one you'll keep chasing." I'd like to do it in a more sober state because it wasn't as good as I suspect it can be. But I will only use it if offered, it's too expensive to REALLY try out lol.

I have friends that have worked a lifetime in finance who still use it on occasion and "supposedly" get really good stuff, but I've always been too scared and thought, "well, what if I'm the idiot that gets a heart attack instantly or is found dead in my bedroom, sitting by the bed with a heavy nose bleed?". Still, one day I need to try it and see whether or not it's as good as people swear it to be.

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I`ve seen a zillion cops and corrections officers on gear......just saying.

Yep.

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Yep.

I have known more than a few real LEOs that when steroids were made a controlled substance  stopped and lost a lot of muscle.  It sucks because I understand why they need it. 

Most of them still trained and got back some but there is a huge difference between natural and *more* than TRT levels. 

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I`ve seen a zillion cops and corrections officers on gear......just saying.
Ronnie would be exhibit A.

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Ronnie would be exhibit A.

And Sergio Oliva.


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^ Ahhh yes, forgot about him.

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I have known more than a few real LEOs that when steroids were made a controlled substance  stopped and lost a lot of muscle.  It sucks because I understand why they need it. 

Most of them still trained and got back some but there is a huge difference between natural and *more* than TRT levels.

My friend who visited the US, California, NYC, Florida and so on said to me "you wouldn't believe the amount of roided cops in the US."
Everyone knows they are on and then the thought that they might go on to bust someone with a couple of vials is disgusting.

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My friend who visited the US, California, NYC, Florida and so on said to me "you wouldn't believe the amount of roided cops in the US."
Everyone knows they are on and then the thought that they might go on to bust someone with a couple of vials is disgusting.
If I were a defense attorney I would bring this up in court. Two different laws being applied here.

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I haven't tried Cocaine yet. One day, if I get the courage, I'd like to at least try it once to see what the big fuss is about.

Have you or anyone else tried it? Is it worth it?

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it's not, it's rather boring. It's the trainingwheels of drugs

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are they testing the Dolphins that attach mines to ships as well?

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I`ve seen a zillion cops and corrections officers on gear......just saying.
yeah buddy!

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I haven't tried Cocaine yet. One day, if I get the courage, I'd like to at least try it once to see what the big fuss is about.

Have you or anyone else tried it? Is it worth it?

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Yes. Love it. Great for sociability but fuck it ruined my elections. Haven't used it in at least 15 years or so. It's out of your system very quickly for UA purposes, as long as you only use once every couple of weeks. 

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German soldiers used methamphetamines, Pervitin, till 1945.

Read the story of Aimo Koivunen.   He was a soldier that fleeing on skis with his squad from the enemy, he was going to take one of the Pervitin tablets.  But couldn't get his mittens off to take one out of the tube, so he swallowed the entire tube.  A whole squads worth at once.  And man, what an adventure he had.    LOL

https://www.iflscience.com/the-finnish-soldier-who-took-his-entire-troops-methamphetamine-supply-while-skiing-away-from-the-russians-59459

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A lot of roid users are drama queens and big babies and love playing victim. “Wah, da gubment won’t let me use roids. Wah, wah, you don’t undastand: our police force and soldiers need to look good and be 250 pounds with all sorts of mental and physical problems! Wah! Everyone’s always demonizing us and hurting our tender feelings.”

Nearly all roid users are mental cases.

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A lot of roid users are drama queens and big babies and love playing victim. “Wah, da gubment won’t let me use roids. Wah, wah, you don’t undastand: our police force and soldiers need to look good and be 250 pounds with all sorts of mental and physical problems! Wah! Everyone’s always demonizing us and hurting our tender feelings.”

Nearly all roid users are mental cases.
As are most cops.

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I have friends that have worked a lifetime in finance who still use it on occasion and "supposedly" get really good stuff, but I've always been too scared and thought, "well, what if I'm the idiot that gets a heart attack instantly or is found dead in my bedroom, sitting by the bed with a heavy nose bleed?". Still, one day I need to try it and see whether or not it's as good as people swear it to be.

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I would have no interest in Cocaine.. even at its best, the effects don't really interest me. Now MDMA...  :)

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My friend who visited the US, California, NYC, Florida and so on said to me "you wouldn't believe the amount of roided cops in the US."
Everyone knows they are on and then the thought that they might go on to bust someone with a couple of vials is disgusting.

I worked on a department with about 2200 cops. I would hazard a guess that less than 20 were on illegal steroids. Probably less than 10. Now that was Texas and may be an anomaly. I have a friend who is a former cop from New York and it seems they don't follow the rules as closely there.

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Meanwhile you larp like jay cutlet during a photo shoot. You think the average seppo can go up against anyone from the albania? Chechnya?algeria? the balkans?


You just said you wouldnt use meth, while other countries are fine with it. Soft

Doesn’t mean I’m soft it’s means I’m smart. I’m 32 years clean so I know how each affects you and Coke and meth doesn’t affect you the same but while training it’s affects your judgment, your targets, your shooting accuracy and almost everything else besides being highly addictive.

Try doing a line of meth or coke (or anything else that fry’s your CNS) then come back and tell us how that went, Junior



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Doesn’t mean I’m soft it’s means I’m smart. I’m 32 years clean so I know how each affects you and Coke and meth doesn’t affect you the same but while training it’s affects your judgment, your targets, your shooting accuracy and almost everything else besides being highly addictive.

Try doing a line of meth or coke (or anything else that fry’s your CNS) then come back and tell us how that went, Junior

Since all us anti Trumpsters are communists... and you the consummate patriot. tell us about your favorite military assignment...

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I haven't tried Cocaine yet. One day, if I get the courage, I'd like to at least try it once to see what the big fuss is about.

Have you or anyone else tried it? Is it worth it?

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Dirty high and junk and I’ve tried it in Costa Rica and Miami.

Real speed was much better, but coming off of that unpleasant.

I’ve tried all sorts of stuff like opioids like Oxy too and I never felt addiction because they were a little fun, but I wasn’t trying to escape my life I guess.

When you aren’t mentally ill you are more aware of the side effects in my experience.