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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #625 on: October 31, 2023, 01:52:46 AM »
I doubt Israel uses nukes on Gaza. The weather would blow the fallout all over Israel.

No, not Gaza. Although, one rabid extremist from Israel's Likud party did call for such an attack on her Twitter account

'Only an explosion that shakes the Middle East will restore this country’s dignity, strength and security, [...] I urge you to do everything and use Doomsday weapons fearlessly against our enemies.'

Shows you the level of intellect we are dealing with. Israel has strategically placed nuclear submarines capable of striking Iran because, in Netanyahu's view, Iran must face a credible nuclear threat.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #626 on: October 31, 2023, 04:22:57 AM »
No, it’s never okay and Hamas the cowards knows they can hide behind children, elderly and disabled then blame Israel for their deaths to gain support, but they need to eliminated once and for all.

Terrorists hiding behind women and children are assholes for sure. Of course they're assholes. They're fucking terrorists and murderers.

Of course, the people who are knowingly blowing up the women and children in hopes of hitting a terrorist aren't exactly good guys either.

World opinion is turning against Israel because they're killing tons of civilians. It'll turn against the US and lead to terror attacks if Biden (or someone who isn't a jellyhead) doesn't distance us from this atrocity.

No matter what happened before, nobody is going to accept that it's necessary to kill thousands (already) or tens of thousands of children.

If the Netanyahu administration thinks its a good strategy to be seen as genocidal maniacs then that's their business, but we can't be associated with that kind of shit. We're supposed to be the good guys. This is potentially the sort of thing people point to for decades afterward. It could permanently damage the US reputation.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #627 on: October 31, 2023, 04:49:34 AM »
Terrorists hiding behind women and children are assholes for sure. Of course they're assholes. They're fucking terrorists and murderers.

Of course, the people who are knowingly blowing up the women and children in hopes of hitting a terrorist aren't exactly good guys either.

World opinion is turning against Israel because they're killing tons of civilians. It'll turn against the US and lead to terror attacks if Biden (or someone who isn't a jellyhead) doesn't distance us from this atrocity.

No matter what happened before, nobody is going to accept that it's necessary to kill thousands (already) or tens of thousands of children.

If the Netanyahu administration thinks its a good strategy to be seen as genocidal maniacs then that's their business, but we can't be associated with that kind of shit. We're supposed to be the good guys. This is potentially the sort of thing people point to for decades afterward. It could permanently damage the US reputation.



That’s easy for you to say as you sit safely in your house, typing on your computer ... with no dog in the fight.

You’re an armchair quarterback.

Now go do your lame, half-ass workout (if you work out)



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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #628 on: October 31, 2023, 05:34:45 AM »
Hopefully Israel has the decency not to attack on a Palestinian Holiday.🙏

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #629 on: October 31, 2023, 05:36:28 AM »


That’s easy for you to say as you sit safely in your house, typing on your computer ... with no dog in the fight.

You’re an armchair quarterback.

Now go do your lame, half-ass workout (if you work out)




Flail harder, man.

You know perfectly well that blowing up thousands of kids is unacceptable and that Israel needs to find another way to topple Hamas.

Also you never listed all the awesome benefits to US citizens of us spending hundreds of billions defending other people's countries.

Were you a fund Ukraine guy and you're upset there's diminished appetite to keep wasting money over there?

Hey have you heard of Nikki Haley? You might dig her.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #630 on: October 31, 2023, 05:40:47 AM »
Flail harder, man.

You know perfectly well that blowing up thousands of kids is unacceptable and that Israel needs to find another way to topple Hamas.

Also you never listed all the awesome benefits to US citizens of us spending hundreds of billions defending other people's countries.

Were you a fund Ukraine guy and you're upset there's diminished appetite to keep wasting money over there?

Don’t hate the player, hate the game. Hamas wouldn’t hesitate to target civilians.

Israel is a 50 K a year GDP first world country. Do you think they want to do this? It’s the 4K a year Sand Dindus that can’t behave. No different from Ghetto Rats in this country.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #631 on: October 31, 2023, 06:13:54 AM »
Don’t hate the player, hate the game. Hamas wouldn’t hesitate to target civilians.

Israel is a 50 K a year GDP first world country. Do you think they want to do this? It’s the 4K a year Sand Dindus that can’t behave. No different from Ghetto Rats in this country.

Hamas didn't hesitate to target civilians, which is what made everyone hate them. Not to armchair quarterback but Israel has managed to not just squander the political currency of worldwide sympathy in the space of 3 weeks. They've even managed to get people and nations condemning them for doing the same in far greater numbers.

Putting in the work to find and kill Hamas terrorists over a long period of time is definitely harder than just slaughtering everyone wholesale. But on the upside, no one calls you a war criminal.

I doubt a judge would dismiss my case if I shot some guy and his kid and my defense was "Yeah I killed them but they only make like $4,000 a year."


So we're past "Its not happening" and into "Yes it's happening and it's good." With regard to killing innocent people and kids. Kill 'em all. I'm the only guy here who says hell no to that. And who thinks it will put the US at risk to be involved because Grandpa Mumbles left the border open and theres like 1.2 billion Muslims in the world.

I say we bail out and Israel can justify its actions to the world without the US anywhere near them. They're strong. It's not like they'll be standing around naked in the desert in 12 months without US money.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #632 on: October 31, 2023, 06:51:05 AM »
Fine I'm a keyboard warrior but so are you guys and you're being full of it.

If you saw troops gunning down women and children you wouldn't say "Those must be the good guys."

Or dropping artillery on them. Muzzies or not, you guys wouldn't say it's fine if you walked over a sand dune and saw it. There's no way. Nobody could.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #633 on: October 31, 2023, 07:16:48 AM »
Fine I'm a keyboard warrior but so are you guys and you're being full of it.

If you saw troops gunning down women and children you wouldn't say "Those must be the good guys."

Or dropping artillery on them. Muzzies or not, you guys wouldn't say it's fine if you walked over a sand dune and saw it. There's no way. Nobody could.

It’s a pet peeve of mine when people put you in a position to make a tough decision and then when make it they bitch. Don’t put me in the fucking position in the first place.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #634 on: October 31, 2023, 07:29:39 AM »
It’s a pet peeve of mine when people put you in a position to make a tough decision and then when make it they bitch. Don’t put me in the fucking position in the first place.

Alright already, I'll back off. I still say you guys, coach, royalty, etc are better people than you're willing to admit.

It is fucking tough because vengeance is called for on behalf of the murdered Israelis. I'm insistent that it lands on the correct assholes.






Geez it's like a Shapiro podcast in here.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #635 on: October 31, 2023, 07:30:51 AM »
would Israel be using the same tactics if Hamas was hiding in Israel?


Anyone?

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #638 on: October 31, 2023, 10:06:19 AM »
Damn. I wish I was descended from famous guy in a magical book in which is transcribed the very Word of God.

Everywhere you go, someone questions you. Whip out the book.

No moral conundrums. No doubt. God's own disinformation debunk is in your hip pocket.

"Sir this coupon expired 4 years ago." Oh yeah? Have you seen my book?

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #639 on: October 31, 2023, 10:19:00 AM »
Terrorists hiding behind women and children are assholes for sure. Of course they're assholes. They're fucking terrorists and murderers.

Of course, the people who are knowingly blowing up the women and children in hopes of hitting a terrorist aren't exactly good guys either.

World opinion is turning against Israel because they're killing tons of civilians. It'll turn against the US and lead to terror attacks if Biden (or someone who isn't a jellyhead) doesn't distance us from this atrocity.

No matter what happened before, nobody is going to accept that it's necessary to kill thousands (already) or tens of thousands of children.

If the Netanyahu administration thinks its a good strategy to be seen as genocidal maniacs then that's their business, but we can't be associated with that kind of shit. We're supposed to be the good guys. This is potentially the sort of thing people point to for decades afterward. It could permanently damage the US reputation.

Going according to their playbook.

That's exactly what Hamas wants.

As far as Hamas is concerned, the more civilians that die and the more videos and photos of death and destruction of Palestinians, the better for them.

As mentioned earlier, it's the same tactics used by other terrorist or 'freedom fighter' groups, they want to provoke a response so they can use it as propaganda to get sympathy and to politically isolate their enemy.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #640 on: October 31, 2023, 10:28:03 AM »
Hamas rocket and missile attacks of peace.




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« Reply #641 on: October 31, 2023, 11:22:45 AM »
Going according to their playbook.

That's exactly what Hamas wants.

As far as Hamas is concerned, the more civilians that die and the more videos and photos of death and destruction of Palestinians, the better for them.

As mentioned earlier, it's the same tactics used by other terrorist or 'freedom fighter' groups, they want to provoke a response so they can use it as propaganda to get sympathy and to politically isolate their enemy.

Maybe. I've heard the theory but nothing to support it by way of names, previous examples by Hamas or affiliated shitheads, no follow up assaults on rescue workers to really rise the fire. Idk ths timeline on the 7th but they didn't press their advantage or try to backfoot the IDF by raiding elsewhere. No boobys. My impression is that they shot everyone they saw and ran away. It smells like a short thought plan.

It's certainly possible that they had a larger plan but there's also a tendency to credit bad guys with supernatural abilities without proof.

At this stage, I think it's equally likely a bunch of murderous idiots launched a rapidly planned raid and got lucky. Or a hardcore group that expected action on the anniversary saw that a lack of coordination was going to let the day slip by, so they quickly formed plan B or had it in reserve in their sub-ranks. That would account for why Israeli intelligence got general rumblings but no alarms or dates.


I caught the film I, Tonya on tele the other night. Tonya Harding and the Nancy Kerrigan knee whack thing in the 90s. In a nutshell, peripheral morons undertook violence for chump change and marginal relevance because their lives were garbage. The world is full of idiots and factions comprised of them.

The formation of Israel suffered from crazy factionalism. Some Zionists despised Ben-Gurion. Every political party has internal power struggles. It seems likely Hamas does too. Maybe it was a faction looking to make a name for themselves.

A nice tidy narrative is comfy but I doubt it's a grand scheme hatched by evil geniuses in a perfectly regimented organization. Seems likely there's all sorts of chaos in their ranks. Maybe that could be exploited.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #642 on: October 31, 2023, 11:52:38 AM »
Maybe. I've heard the theory but nothing to support it by way of names, previous examples by Hamas or affiliated shitheads, no follow up assaults on rescue workers to really rise the fire.

It's certainly possible that they had a plan but there's also a tendency to credit bad guys with supernatural abilities without proof.

At this stage, I think it's equally likely a bunch of murderous idiots launched a rapidly planned raid and got lucky. Or a hardcore group that expected action on the anniversary saw that a lack of coordination was going to let the day slip by, so they quickly formed plan B or had it in reserve in their sub-ranks. That would account for why Israeli intelligence got general rumblings but no alarms or dates.


I caught the film I, Tonya on tele the other night. Tonya Harding and the Nancy Kerrigan knee whack thing in the 90s. In a nutshell, peripheral morons undertook violence for chump change and marginal relevance because their lives were garbage. The world is full of idiots and factions comprised of them.

The formation of Israel suffered from crazy factionalism. Some Zionists despised Ben-Gurion. Every political party has internal power struggles. It seems likely Hamas does too. Maybe it was a faction looking to make a name for themselves.

A nice tidy narrative is comfy but I doubt it's a grand scheme hatched by evil geniuses in a perfectly regimented organization. Seems likely there's all sorts of chaos in their ranks. Maybe that could be exploited.

I strongly disagree.

It is the standard playbook of all 'liberation movements'. From the North Vietnamese, Algerians, and black African movements, they have coordinated and deliberate policies and strict discipline of cadres enforced by violence. 

They know what they are doing.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #643 on: October 31, 2023, 12:03:37 PM »
I strongly disagree.

It is the standard playbook of all 'liberation movements'. From the North Vietnamese, Algerians, and black African movements, they have coordinated and deliberate policies and strict discipline of cadres enforced by violence. 

They know what they are doing.

I'm owned. I don't know anything about those groups.

Why not press forward or reinforce success? It seems like they could have done more damage. Or at least plant some boobytraps for medical guys if you really want to rouse Israeli ire?

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #644 on: October 31, 2023, 01:06:23 PM »
People like the nutcase in the video are like Hamas on steroids, which is evident even if you haven't devoted a substantial amount of time studying them. There's no other group even remotely this nutty, genocidal, and obsessed with conquest, annihilation, and revenge motivated by fantasy and mythology.

They're pushing their "Gog/Magog" war that is entirely scripted from their writings and has nothing to do with prophesy or being chosen above Whites, Blacks, Hispanics, Arabs, Asians etc.... Stupid, crazy, and as evil as it gets.

The US should have nothing to do with these lunatics, much less being run by them.

And this rabbinical buffoon is not an outlier:



Video:   https://twitter.com/seethroughit2/status/1719228389473845617

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in other news...


This fellow is going to prison because he raped someone that counted as a human being(someone of his tribe).



While he was busy raping, Prime Minister Ehud Barak was visiting Epstein island.,,,dozens of times!!!!!!!



https://www.timesofisrael.com/ehud-barak-met-with-jeffrey-epstein-dozens-of-times-flew-on-private-plane-report/



"Nation of priests", "you're blessed if you bless them"...why do gentiles fall for this utter nonsense.



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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #645 on: October 31, 2023, 02:04:53 PM »
would Israel be using the same tactics if Hamas was hiding in Israel?


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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #646 on: October 31, 2023, 02:15:29 PM »
It's not as though it is a matter of the Jews can do nothing wrong but that the mooslimes refuse to do anything right.  Fuck islime.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #647 on: October 31, 2023, 02:45:00 PM »
People like the nutcase in the video are like Hamas on steroids, which is evident even if you haven't devoted a substantial amount of time studying them. There's no other group even remotely this nutty, genocidal, and obsessed with conquest, annihilation, and revenge motivated by fantasy and mythology.

They're pushing their "Gog/Magog" war that is entirely scripted from their writings and has nothing to do with prophesy or being chosen above Whites, Blacks, Hispanics, Arabs, Asians etc.... Stupid, crazy, and as evil as it gets.

The US should have nothing to do with these lunatics, much less being run by them.

And this rabbinical buffoon is not an outlier:

Video:   https://twitter.com/seethroughit2/status/1719228389473845617

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in other news...

This fellow is going to prison because he raped someone that counted as a human being(someone of his tribe).

While he was busy raping, Prime Minister Ehud Barak was visiting Epstein island.,,,dozens of times!!!!!!!

https://www.timesofisrael.com/ehud-barak-met-with-jeffrey-epstein-dozens-of-times-flew-on-private-plane-report/

"Nation of priests", "you're blessed if you bless them"...why do gentiles fall for this utter nonsense.




One of the three judges who convicted Moshe Kastav is an Arab, who now is on the Israeli supreme court.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #648 on: October 31, 2023, 02:50:22 PM »
Human shields….

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #649 on: October 31, 2023, 03:32:53 PM »
Human shields….

Yes exactly. Hamas puts themselves in the most civilian-dense areas. The civilians better quickly learn to kill Hamas members. It’s the safest end to this war.