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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #50 on: November 17, 2023, 09:36:17 AM »
i'm able to maintain 6-8% on mickey d's and pizza slut easy-peasy no problems 8)

Pizza Hut still exists?

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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #51 on: November 17, 2023, 09:40:30 AM »
As you know, setting up, a diet is easy. The hard part is execution. A diet that low in carbs is gonna have a next to zero adherence rate. Sooner or later, the dieter will ask “Why am I doing this. I only live once.”

I don't set people up "diets". I use a calculation based on their body type using either Harris Benedict or Mifflin but mostly Mifflin because IMO, it's the most accurate. My program is set up to make the execution easy and sustainable. I designed the program to help create habits to not set them up for failure. Once you start going the "bodybuilding" type of regimen route, you lose them and eventually fail. Sure, they'll lose weight in the beginning for a couple of months but it's not sustainable.

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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #52 on: November 17, 2023, 09:40:56 AM »
I think Hanky should go on IronNat's diet. I think it would help his physique, his mental state, and his Crohn's.

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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #53 on: November 17, 2023, 09:42:45 AM »
I have been eating 0g to 20g carbs per day four years in a row, for health reasons having nothing to do with body weight.

My health now is the best it has been my entire life.  I look and feel great and strong, and people keep telling me I look younger now than I did years ago.

It may not be for everybody, but for me it has been the most sustainable, satiating, delicious, fun, liberating, safest, healthiest diet I've ever tried.  And I have tried many diets over the years, all unsustainable except for this one.

To me this is no longer a diet, but a lifestyle.

For the first time too, I have been able to lose lots of body fat and keep it off long term.  I had gotten in bodybuilding competition shape eating lots of carbs many times before, but it was always unsustainable.  I would gain all the body fat back plus more in less than a year.  That's no longer the case for the first time in my life.

To each their own.  Just find a way of eating that works for you and gives you the results you want and need.

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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #54 on: November 17, 2023, 09:47:17 AM »
Fatty meats, avocados, healthy oils, whole eggs, butter, nuts, cheese if no carbs, etc.

Heart attack city. 

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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #55 on: November 17, 2023, 10:01:59 AM »
Heart attack city.

That's the old way of thinking, based on flawed studies, corruption, and fraud.  It's actually sugar and other carbs that cause heart disease:

50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists To Point Blame At Fat
In the 1960s, the sugar industry funded research that downplayed the risks of sugar and highlighted the hazards of fat, according to a newly published article in JAMA Internal Medicine.

The article draws on internal documents to show that an industry group called the Sugar Research Foundation wanted to "refute" concerns about sugar's possible role in heart disease. The SRF then sponsored research by Harvard scientists that did just that. The result was published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 1967, with no disclosure of the sugar industry funding.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat

Sugar Industry and Coronary Heart Disease Research
Early warning signals of the coronary heart disease (CHD) risk of sugar (sucrose) emerged in the 1950s. We examined Sugar Research Foundation (SRF) internal documents, historical reports, and statements relevant to early debates about the dietary causes of CHD and assembled findings chronologically into a narrative case study. The SRF sponsored its first CHD research project in 1965, a literature review published in the New England Journal of Medicine, which singled out fat and cholesterol as the dietary causes of CHD and downplayed evidence that sucrose consumption was also a risk factor. The SRF set the review’s objective, contributed articles for inclusion, and received drafts. The SRF’s funding and role was not disclosed. Together with other recent analyses of sugar industry documents, our findings suggest the industry sponsored a research program in the 1960s and 1970s that successfully cast doubt about the hazards of sucrose while promoting fat as the dietary culprit in CHD. Policymaking committees should consider giving less weight to food industry–funded studies and include mechanistic and animal studies as well as studies appraising the effect of added sugars on multiple CHD biomarkers and disease development.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/article-abstract/2548255

Dr. Paul Mason - 'The corrupt history of the food pyramid'


I've been eating the fattiest of red meat, fatty dairy, egg yolks, bacon, and butter daily for four years, and all my heart health markers have improved.  That's because I eat very little to no carbs anymore.

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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #56 on: November 17, 2023, 10:10:45 AM »


I've been eating the fattiest of red meat, fatty dairy, egg yolks, bacon, and butter daily for four years
, and all my heart health markers have improved.  That's because I eat very little to no carbs anymore.

Heart attack city.  I hope you're young.

Why are you abusing your body like this?

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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #57 on: November 17, 2023, 10:12:18 AM »
Heart attack city.  I hope you're young.

Why are you abusing your body like this?

Trolling much?   :D

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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #58 on: November 17, 2023, 10:15:20 AM »
Who in the fuck do you think you are calling fat?

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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #59 on: November 17, 2023, 10:18:20 AM »
I tried to save them, Loco, but they won't listen.

F*ck 'em.



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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #60 on: November 17, 2023, 10:21:44 AM »
I tried to save them, Loco, but they won't listen.

F*ck 'em.



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Most of us prefer death rather than having to listen to diet gurus.

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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #61 on: November 17, 2023, 10:31:07 AM »
I tried to save them, Loco, but they won't listen.

F*ck 'em.



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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #62 on: November 17, 2023, 10:58:09 AM »
I tried to save them, Loco, but they won't listen.

F*ck 'em.



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   Jesus was big into bread.
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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #63 on: November 17, 2023, 10:59:38 AM »
Most of us prefer death rather than having to listen to diet gurus.

Personally, I don't listen to diet gurus either.  I listen to MDs and PHDs such as Dr. Westman, Dr. Paul Mason, Dominic P D'Agostino, etc.

I listen to and follow this guy the most:  Dr. Eric Westman, professor of medicine at Duke University is board certified in Internal Medicine and Obesity Medicine and has a Master’s Degree in clinical research, with over 90 peer-reviewed publications to his name.

He has used a very meat heavy, keto diet for over 20 years to help thousands of patients at Duke University's keto clinic lose body fat, reverse type 2 diabetes, pre-diabetes, insulin resistance, hypertension, GERD, PCOS, fatty liver, and other conditions.


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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #64 on: November 17, 2023, 11:00:41 AM »
Jesus was big into bread.

And fish, and lamb.

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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #65 on: November 17, 2023, 11:12:36 AM »
The problem with sugar is that there is limited storage space in the form of glycogen. So fat fvcks who never exercise have no place to put the excess and it ends up staying in the blood while fat gets stored in the adipose tissue. The end result is chronic high blood sugar, which eventually leads to health problems.

It’s not a problem for those who exercise and have some dietary discipline.

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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #66 on: November 17, 2023, 11:20:39 AM »
I stay in my caloric range to maintain bodyweight...

Pasta, bread, sandwiches, cereals, etc...

Also, meat, rice, eggs, milk, apples...

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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #67 on: November 17, 2023, 12:46:49 PM »
Heart attack city.  I hope you're young.

Why are you abusing your body like this?
You're joking right? Don't you get it, carbs are the culprit

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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #68 on: November 17, 2023, 01:00:12 PM »
You're joking right? Don't you get it, carbs are the culprit

IroNat, does it greatly concern you that Pamith is in agreement with you? He lives among the roaches for Christ’s sake!

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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #69 on: November 17, 2023, 01:03:16 PM »
Is there a sport in which having depleted glycogen stores is preferable to full ones?

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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #70 on: November 17, 2023, 01:47:10 PM »
Is there a sport in which having depleted glycogen stores is preferable to full ones?




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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #71 on: November 17, 2023, 02:08:38 PM »
Keto/Carnivore cultists be like


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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #72 on: November 17, 2023, 02:17:45 PM »
Keto/Carnivore cultists be like



Would love to see robcguns rain down punches on his fat fucking GH nose. Social media whores need to be beaten to death

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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #73 on: November 17, 2023, 02:24:10 PM »
I think we need to put up pictures of the ones supporting their stance on diets. It will never work because the drug guys will say look at me when they know they look like absolute shit without the drug assist.

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Re: The answer to: "Why am I fat?"
« Reply #74 on: November 17, 2023, 05:28:18 PM »
A diet high in saturated fats is just asking for problems.

Old way of thinking, based on flawed studies dependent on food questionnaires, corruption, and fraud.

SFA =  saturated fatty acid
CVD = cardiovascular disease
CHD = coronary heart disease

Journal of the American Heart Association
Dietary Fatty Acids, Macronutrient Substitutions, Food Sources and Incidence of Coronary Heart Disease
This observational study found no strong associations of total fatty acids, SFAs, monounsaturated fatty acids, and polyunsaturated fatty acids, with incident CHD. By contrast, we found associations of SFAs with CHD in opposite directions dependent on the food source.
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/JAHA.120.019814

Journal of the American College of Cardiology
Saturated Fats and Health: A Reassessment and Proposal for Food-Based Recommendations
The dietary recommendation to reduce intake of SFAs without considering specific fatty acids and food sources is not aligned with the current evidence base. As such, it may distract from other more effective food-based recommendations, and may also cause a reduction in the intake of nutrient-dense foods (e.g., dairy, unprocessed meat) that may help decrease not only the risk of CVD, type 2 diabetes, and other noncommunicable diseases, but also malnutrition, deficiency diseases, and frailty, particularly among “at-risk” groups.
https://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jacc.2020.05.077

U.S. National Institutes of Health's National Library of Medicine
Dietary Saturated Fats and Health: Are the U.S. Guidelines Evidence-Based?
Multiple reviews of the evidence have demonstrated that a recommendation to limit consumption of saturated fats to no more than 10% of total calories is not supported by rigorous scientific studies. Importantly, neither this guideline, nor that for replacing saturated fats with polyunsaturated fats, considers the central issue of the health effects of differing food sources of these fats. The 2020 DGAC review that recommends continuing these recommendations has, in our view, not met the standard of “the preponderance of the evidence” for this decision.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8541481/

The British Medical Journal
Association of carbohydrate and saturated fat intake with cardiovascular disease and mortality in Australian women[/b]
In middle-aged Australian women, moderate carbohydrate intake (41.0%–44.3% of TEI) was associated with the lowest risk of CVD, without an effect on total mortality. Increasing saturated fat intake was not associated with CVD or mortality and instead correlated with lower rates of diabetes, hypertension and obesity.
https://heart.bmj.com/content/108/12/932

CR = carbohydrate restricted diet
LF = low fat diet
U.S. National Institutes of Health's National Library of Medicine
Low carbohydrate diets improve atherogenic dyslipidemia even in the absence of weight loss
A recent report of Krauss et al. (AJCN, 2006) separates the effects of weight loss and carbohydrate restriction. They clearly confirm that carbohydrate restriction leads to an improvement in atherogenic lipid states in the absence of weight loss or in the presence of higher saturated fat. In distinction, low fat diets seem to require weight loss for effective improvement in atherogenic dyslipidemia.
Compared to weight loss on a LF diet, the high saturated fat CR diet with no weight loss resulted in better improvements in LDL peak size, TAG, HDL, and the ratios total cholesterol/HDL and apoB/ApoA-1, that is, the effects are not equivalent; CR is significantly better than weight loss in the presence of LF for atherogenic dyslipidemia.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1488852/

The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition
Effects of a low-carbohydrate diet on insulin-resistant dyslipoproteinemia—a randomized controlled feeding trial
A low-carbohydrate diet, high in saturated fat, improved insulin-resistant dyslipoproteinemia and lipoprotein(a), without adverse effect on LDL cholesterol. Carbohydrate restriction might lower CVD risk independently of body weight
https://ajcn.nutrition.org/article/S0002-9165(22)00119-8/fulltext

U.S. National Institutes of Health's National Library of Medicine
Separate effects of reduced carbohydrate intake and weight loss on atherogenic dyslipidemia
With the 26%-carbohydrate diet, lipoprotein changes with the higher saturated fat intakes were not significantly different from those with the lower saturated fat intakes, except for LDL cholesterol, which decreased less with the higher saturated fat intake because of an increase in mass of large LDL.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16685042/


Fat is the most calorie dense food there is.

And that is a very good thing, because it easily gets you to your daily caloric and nutritional needs with far less food volume.  Fat, especially animal saturated fat, is far more satiating than carbs, making it more difficult to overconsume.

Unlike carbs, fat is also essential as it contains highly bioavailable essential fatty acids, fat soluble vitamins, and dietary cholesterol, all necessary for optimal health.

KD = Ketogenic Diet
Manipulation of Dietary Intake on Changes in Circulating Testosterone Concentrations
For the hormonal system to function optimally, fat becomes an important macronutrient as it’s the backbone for steroid hormone production [81].

Cholesterol, a dietary fat component, is one of the building blocks for testosterone production [81]. Considering that high-fat diets (HFD) increase cholesterol levels, increases in dietary fat consumption have been suggested to potentially result in an increase in testosterone production [85].

It has been suggested that increases in testosterone concentrations resulting from a KD are related to the high dietary intake of cholesterol [88].

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8538516/

And of the three macronutrients, fat has the lowest impact on blood glucose and insulin levels.