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Re: Have you ever had a friend that...
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2023, 06:34:34 AM »
I attacked Tapeworm because he told me to mind my business in essence even I what I feel is true but he called it living for your wife and kids. But like I said. It is my friend's choice even though it's disgusting seeing what he's allowed himself to become.

As far as I know, he doesn't complain at least not to me. For all I know he could be happy but we don't talk like that anymore even though there was no falling out. One thing I know for sure is that she is a controlling, manipulative bitch and he's easily controlled by pussy if it's on a consistent basis.  Without going into details, this is exactly what happened.

She found out he was cheating with Craigslist whore the week they got married, she called me yelling and screaming to come talk some sense into him (I did) 12 years ago. From that moment he gave his power to her to get back in her good graces and he's never been the same.

He was caught cheating and thought he was going to have a successful marriage?

It takes a lifetime to build trust and a moment to destroy it. Getting caught cheating changes the whole parameters of this story. He should have walked away, you should have advised him without therapy this was going to be a horrible marriage, many women don’t forgive.

 This isn’t a simple he got married and changed; this is a dude who was told he was throwing his life away and he needed to change and not let that happen, make it right and make it work. He took that advice.


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« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2023, 06:44:37 AM »
From the essay Rotating Polyandry:

“Their initial response to their wives’ stated unhappiness was to try to make them happy. “In most cases, their husbands launched futile attempts to make their wives happy by being more attentive, spending more time at home and helping out around the house. Regardless of these women’s past and present complaints, the last thing they wanted was to spend more time with their husbands.” (Langley notes that wives do often complain that “my spouse doesn’t pay attention to me,” but calls this code for “I want another man.”) In fact, wives often became angry precisely over their husbands’ efforts to please them, because this increased their own feelings of guilt for infidelity. Some also perceived the similarity between this behavior and their own earlier efforts to get their husbands to “commit”; women know better than anyone that efforts to please can be a form of manipulation.”

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« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2023, 06:47:52 AM »
Yeah, one mate in particular. Divorced his wife who was traditional in a sense for a boss babe with mental issues and addicted  to social media. A feminist in every sense of the word. I convinced this man 10 years ago to buy btc he had 100btc saved, told him not to touch it for a 10 year period. Anyway feminist got him by the balls, came into his life  and controlled every aspect. They bought a house together and used the btc for renovations and went on a European holiday afterwards. Paid off her debts from her divorce and the rest is history. Still continues to dominate him, refuses sex and basically  worse parts of feminism he is beholden to.

At btc peak that 100btc was work $9.3milliom that stash sits at $6.4million today. He has 0 today and 700k in debt.

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« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2023, 07:16:10 AM »
This is usually an unpopular opinion when I share it, which used to surprise me as it seems self-evident, but you get the Wife and Children you deserve.

If you let her push you around, you're the fucking idiot in that equation

And if your kids are sh1t - you failed as a Father


Luck and 'society' don't come into it

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[Edit:  I just read that again and it comes across as pompous - genuinely not my intention - I just have no tolerance for people with excuses - guess that would be most GetBiggers!  8)]

A lot of truth in what you said. I have always said if the kids are scum bags they learned that from their parents. The kids don't fall too far from the tree. You have kids in trouble with the law, doing drugs and act like scum bags then they didn't come from a good family.  Sorry, if the truth hurts.

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« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2023, 07:20:03 AM »
He was caught cheating and thought he was going to have a successful marriage?

It takes a lifetime to build trust and a moment to destroy it. Getting caught cheating changes the whole parameters of this story. He should have walked away, you should have advised him without therapy this was going to be a horrible marriage, many women don’t forgive.

 This isn’t a simple he got married and changed; this is a dude who was told he was throwing his life away and he needed to change and not let that happen, make it right and make it work. He took that advice.

It always seems if the man cheats the marriage is over but if it's the woman they demand a different scenario to the punishment. It becomes the man's fault she was cheating. No matter what it's the man's fault. It's very rare to find a woman that will say she is sorry for anything. Never at fault.

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« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2023, 07:38:41 AM »
Holy shit. You actually apologized? Online?

I'm not sure what to do. This hasn't happened before. Anywhere ever in history.

If you broke the matrix and we all wake up in pods please lead us to a place we can find food.

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No surprise to see the apology, Wiggs is an honorable gentleman, hence my surprise at seeing what I thought was an unprovoked personal attack.  Glad to see peace restored LOL

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« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2023, 07:50:16 AM »
I attacked Tapeworm because he told me to mind my business in essence even I what I feel is true but he called it living for your wife and kids. But like I said. It is my friend's choice even though it's disgusting seeing what he's allowed himself to become.

As far as I know, he doesn't complain at least not to me. For all I know he could be happy but we don't talk like that anymore even though there was no falling out. One thing I know for sure is that she is a controlling, manipulative bitch and he's easily controlled by pussy if it's on a consistent basis.  Without going into details, this is exactly what happened.

She found out he was cheating with Craigslist whore the week they got married, she called me yelling and screaming to come talk some sense into him (I did) 12 years ago. From that moment he gave his power to her to get back in her good graces and he's never been the same.

Ah, that is odd.  Hard to say what the cause is, normally I don’t associate the “overly devoted husband” type with infidelity. 

I had a friend who got a clingy girlfriend who none of us liked, and since he was always with her, we never really bothered to spend time with him.  Of course—you can’t just tell a guy “hey we don’t like your girlfriend, stop bringing her around” so we never said anything and just saw him less and less.

7-8 years later, the guy is getting married and asks five of us to be his groomsmen and me to be his best man.  None of us had seen him in a year or two (at the least) and we hardly talked anymore with him, so each of us (individually) decided to skip it.  Bit of a dirtbag move maybe but you can’t just let the relationships wither and die, and still expect your friends to be there.

It’s a bummer for sure, but hey that’s life .. worst part is wondering if you guys really were as good of friends as you had thought. 

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« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2023, 08:08:46 AM »
I apologize for the personal attack Tapeworm.

Outed.

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« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2023, 08:09:26 AM »
Ah, that is odd.  Hard to say what the cause is, normally I don’t associate the “overly devoted husband” type with infidelity. 

I had a friend who got a clingy girlfriend who none of us liked, and since he was always with her, we never really bothered to spend time with him.  Of course—you can’t just tell a guy “hey we don’t like your girlfriend, stop bringing her around” so we never said anything and just saw him less and less.

7-8 years later, the guy is getting married and asks five of us to be his groomsmen and me to be his best man.  None of us had seen him in a year or two (at the least) and we hardly talked anymore with him, so each of us (individually) decided to skip it.  Bit of a dirtbag move maybe but you can’t just let the relationships wither and die, and still expect your friends to be there.

It’s a bummer for sure, but hey that’s life .. worst part is wondering if you guys really were as good of friends as you had thought.

We've been friends since high school.  We were definitely friends. As in best friends.
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« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2023, 08:11:28 AM »
Once they got married, they turned into a total fucking beta male (perhaps they were always one), began taking on characteristics unlike them, let their wives run them around, control them and ultimately change them into someone you don't know to the point that you lose respect for them?

It's some sad shit. He's in too deep. They have children and his nuts are locked away.  Of course he doesn't see it and there's no showing him a mirror. Anyway, that's all.

dude... lol it's you, not him.

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Re: Have you ever had a friend that...
« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2023, 08:18:14 AM »
dude... lol it's you, not him.


Sorry to disappoint you, but I have the Rob approach after my first marriage. That was a wake up call.  I've never been the same since. Matter of fact, I left the last marriage because I woke up and decided to take more control of things and of course she said "I changed". I took my shit and she came home to nothing.  (True story) So no buddy. Wiggs is alot of things but pussy ass simp he is not.

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« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2023, 08:57:16 AM »
Once they got married, they turned into a total fucking beta male (perhaps they were always one), began taking on characteristics unlike them, let their wives run them around, control them and ultimately change them into someone you don't know to the point that you lose respect for them?

It's some sad shit. He's in too deep. They have children and his nuts are locked away.  Of course he doesn't see it and there's no showing him a mirror. Anyway, that's all.

A friend of mine even willingly started talking with his new wife's funny accent.. ::)  Scary stuff right there.

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« Reply #37 on: December 27, 2023, 09:24:43 AM »
A friend of mine even willingly started talking with his new wife's funny accent.. ::)  Scary stuff right there.

Geez. That's a new low.
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« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2023, 09:39:07 AM »
I’m truly the only one I know that this didn’t happen to. I told my wife at the beginning I will always do what I want when I want and I will never change and I haven’t.
I did the same.......nobody runs my life,not even the woman I love.

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« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2023, 09:45:47 AM »
Makes Wes look like Moses.
Watch it there Methuselah !!  :D

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« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2023, 10:30:04 AM »
Most losers think they can only be happy in a relationship. Ironically a mindset like this makes women throw up

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« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2023, 10:59:50 AM »
Has anyone ever seen a “successful” relationship after infidelity has been discovered? I’ve known men who were disasters as human beings; drug addicts who were unfaithful and literally pulled a 180 to become productive members of society giving their wife more good years than bad but the women NEVER forgive/forget (which is fine, but they also need to let go and move on) and they are intent on ruining the man’s life.

To answer the original question I did have a friend who became a simp for a girl, she absolutely sucked btw, and it ended horribly. There’s nothing you can do. It sucks. People change.

Which going back to you Wiggs, I’m sorry for the current relationship ending. The people change argument is stupid, because of course they do. I’m sure your wife is different after she had your child, children change the whole dynamic of a relationship, we all change because we are supposed to after we have different life experiences. They only people who don’t change are sociopaths, so it sounds like she doesn’t know what she is arguing about.

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« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2023, 11:31:16 AM »
Has anyone ever seen a “successful” relationship after infidelity has been discovered? I’ve known men who were disasters as human beings; drug addicts who were unfaithful and literally pulled a 180 to become productive members of society giving their wife more good years than bad but the women NEVER forgive/forget (which is fine, but they also need to let go and move on) and they are intent on ruining the man’s life.

To answer the original question I did have a friend who became a simp for a girl, she absolutely sucked btw, and it ended horribly. There’s nothing you can do. It sucks. People change.

Which going back to you Wiggs, I’m sorry for the current relationship ending. The people change argument is stupid, because of course they do. I’m sure your wife is different after she had your child, children change the whole dynamic of a relationship, we all change because we are supposed to after we have different life experiences. They only people who don’t change are sociopaths, so it sounds like she doesn’t know what she is arguing about.

Lol. I think you have some things mixed up.
My German wife cheated back in 04. I stayed with her, then I cheated with whores in 2010 and left her in 2011.

Met my Hebrew wife in 2014. Got married in 2020 and had a baby this year. She never cheated and I never cheated. So we're all good.

I should have never stayed with the German after she cheated but I was determined to make it work.  ::)  I was young and dumb (26) . I'm 44 now.

My friend who this thread is about was cheating with Craigslist whores unbeknownst to me before he was married and even the week he got married. She found out about it and the rest is history.
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Re: Have you ever had a friend that...
« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2023, 11:39:48 AM »
what's this "Friend" shit?

the fuck y'all niggas up to

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« Reply #44 on: December 27, 2023, 11:50:24 AM »
what's this "Friend" shit?

the fuck y'all niggas up to

You've gotta be shittin' me the fuckin' hooked nose, pasta eatin,' dancin' for dollars, Pee-Wee Herman on Creatine JohnnynoGame is gracing us with his presence?! :o

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All jokes aside, hope all is well man.  Good to have you back.
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« Reply #45 on: December 27, 2023, 11:53:19 AM »


All jokes aside, hope all is well man.  Good to have you back.

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he needed more people of color to post here....i'll explain to you someday

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« Reply #46 on: December 27, 2023, 12:18:40 PM »
Lol. I think you have some things mixed up.
My German wife cheated back in 04. I stayed with her, then I cheated with whores in 2010 and left her in 2011.

Met my Hebrew wife in 2014. Got married in 2020 and had a baby this year. She never cheated and I never cheated. So we're all good.

I should have never stayed with the German after she cheated but I was determined to make it work.  ::)  I was young and dumb (26) . I'm 44 now.

My friend who this thread is about was cheating with Craigslist whores unbeknownst to me before he was married and even the week he got married. She found out about it and the rest is history.

I apologize; I misunderstood and thought the second marriage also ended.

It sounds like you learned a lot from the first marriage and even though it was a painful situation you became a better man for it.  I think when we are young we tend to be overly idealistic and optimistic and think we can over come anything. Relationships are a 2 way street and if both people aren’tgoing in the same direction you could be “perfect” and it won’t work.

In my 20s I had an older friend talking about his spouse and he said if she cheated on him, he would be upset but he would move on. This couple had been together for over 20 years and that attitude blew my mind. I asked if he would try to get counseling to make it work and he said, “for what? If that happened we needed counseling before she cheated not after.”

He then said something that at the time was profound, “if someone wants to cheat they will. I can be a good husband or bad; but ultimately it’s what they want to do and I can’t stop it.” I think there is a lot of truth in this, people do what they want; remain faithful or cheat, it’s literally an individual decision.

When lobster posted here she said something along the lines of she couldn’t respect a guy who cried for her to come back because she knew how imperfect she was. Once a partner loses respect for the other the relationship is headed for destruction.

Going back to your friend he should have never gotten married to this woman. Once she found out he was cheating he was doomed. There are a few “exceptional”, or emotionally dead, women who can move forward after something like this but many simply can’t. They resent the man and want him to suffer and pay for the misdeeds. If he doesn’t stand up for himself, he will be trampled…..

This sounds like what you friend is going through. He’s spent the last number of years realizing he mistreated his future wife so he grovels for forgiveness which is probably not happening. He loses his spousal identity and is made subject to his wife’s whims. It sounds like the dude is to far gone to come back, unless she leaves him. But that is a whole other issue….

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Re: Have you ever had a friend that...
« Reply #47 on: December 27, 2023, 12:45:25 PM »
Once they got married, they turned into a total fucking beta male (perhaps they were always one), began taking on characteristics unlike them, let their wives run them around, control them and ultimately change them into someone you don't know to the point that you lose respect for them?

It's some sad shit. He's in too deep. They have children and his nuts are locked away.  Of course he doesn't see it and there's no showing him a mirror. Anyway, that's all.

Kids have a way of complicating things. My brother changed once his children were born. He was a man with no worries in the world and would live day-to-day, but once he had kids, his demeanor changed. I don't blame him too much, he lives for more than just himself at this point in life.

That said, have I seen "men" change as a result of being married? Sure. Have I seen men take on effeminate features and even lose aspects of their manhood, because of an overpowering woman? Sure. I have a friend who was a New York State Trooper for 25 years (now retired). He was one of the toughest guys I had ever met. Then, he married a strong Puerto Rican woman and his entire attitude changed completely. Now, he is all about cooking in the home, getting manicures with clear polish and gyrating his hips to Caribbean music (he doesn't speak Spanish).

Maybe the sex is amazing, but I don't know. He went from a total badass, to a man that has even developed somewhat of a lisp.



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« Reply #48 on: December 27, 2023, 12:56:12 PM »

Most men never had balls to begin with.
But to their defense - only few men are being accepted by women in an honest way. All others have to play the beta game or the women will destroy them in a devious way.
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« Reply #49 on: December 27, 2023, 01:26:25 PM »
When I was young, women stayed home with the kids and the man worked to take care of the family. The women made the home and took care of the kids. Now it seems with almost every family the woman works and the role of taking care of the kids is delegated to institutions like day care for their pre school kids.  If you have women seeking careers they think less of a man making less money than them. Deep down inside they want a man to be a man taking care of them and the kids. No way to look up to a man if you are making more money than them. Also we are now seeing the result of kids raised by day care and schools with little parental guidance. They turn into liberal fuck ups.

I see this in the work place too. I work with beautiful young women in my retirement job and the few guys that drift into working for this office are not seen as dating material to these hot young women I work with. The men that work here never last.

This is the dynamic  I have at my house my wife hasn't worked since 24 when we started trying for kids  so she was a house wife and then stay at home mother. She is 32, hasn't worked in 8 years and is at home with the kids. I'm the 12 years we've been together she has never been as happy as she has being with our kids at home.  She is a young mother and receives alot of jealousy and hate from other mothers. I can honestly  say I live a stress free marriage, kids are cared for, she cooks 3 times a day for us, gym 5x a week and house is always clean.

From what I've seen older career mothers in their late 30s to early 40s with newborn/toddlers are the most bitter c#nts. Their fading youth combined with declining energy levels and having to work on top of financial and social stress is a recipe for disaster.