Author Topic: 2006 Toronto Pro canceled! Official! (Read 27601 times)

240 is Back · « **Reply #25 on:** May 01, 2006, 04:47:52 PM »

Bob Chick-

Did Winston pay sanction fees to the IFBB for the Toronto Pro?

What was the total amount?

Are they refunding that money to Winston?

Will Winston be making, at the very least, financial reparations to athletes who bought plane tickets and are now stuck with a weekend in Canada with no chance to earn?

thisiskeith12 · « **Reply #26 on:** May 01, 2006, 04:48:17 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on May 01, 2006, 04:43:37 PM

LOL...

I'm upset because a few guys just lost their shirt on show prep and plane tickets, and Bob Chick is defending the promoter winston instead of the athletes!

It's nice to see shows offering little money like that cancelled and something like the Colorado Pro being born! Good job Shawn! Hopefully this will influence other promoters!

thisiskeith12 · « **Reply #27 on:** May 01, 2006, 04:49:09 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on May 01, 2006, 04:47:52 PM

Bob Chick-

Did Winston pay sanction fees to the IFBB for the Toronto Pro?

What was the total amount?

Are they refunding that money to Winston?

Will Winston be making, at the very least, financial reparations to athletes who bought plane tickets and are now stuck with a weekend in Canada with no chance to earn?

If they didn't buy refundable tickets they are cheap0z. That's the way you have to fly nowadays.

tommywishbone · « **Reply #28 on:** May 01, 2006, 04:50:28 PM »

I hear Poletier is furious.

He was tight.

LuciusFox · « **Reply #29 on:** May 01, 2006, 04:52:21 PM »

Quote from: tommywishbone on May 01, 2006, 04:50:28 PM

I hear Poletier is furious. >:(He was grainy & full.

Hahahahaha....

Like the second coming of Dorian

tommywishbone · « **Reply #30 on:** May 01, 2006, 04:55:23 PM »

That's weird; you grabbed a quote that was only there for 0.001 seconds. I didn't even think I entered it. Anyhoo...

onlyme · « **Reply #31 on:** May 01, 2006, 04:55:43 PM »

He better get his money refunded. I don't understand this part. What was the date of this show. I don't understand with an estaboished show a hotel would pull this crap. Why is that. Hasn't there been a hotel secured before. Any pro that has bought a ticket to this show (airline) should be reimbursed 100% by the IFBB. The IFBB has been promoting this show. It is on the website and on other materials. Shawn has even promoted it. The IFBB is paid sanctioned fees for a show. How can they accept the fees when no show was definite. Why don't they investigate or at least do some sort of verification there is going to be a show. I pity every single competitor who was going to do this show. WHy all of a sudden do established sponsors pull out of and establised IFBB show. Thnigs that make you go UMmmmmmmmmmm. I have a theory but I will hold it till confirmation. To all the IFBB supporters who continue to hold-on, GRAB TIGHTER the ride has just begun

Lift Studios · « **Reply #32 on:** May 01, 2006, 04:58:45 PM »

Bottom line this show was all about LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION. There was no support from fans and sponsors due to its LOCATION.

Ron · « **Reply #33 on:** May 01, 2006, 05:07:13 PM »

Yes - this is tough even for the promoters. They are out a lot of money, various fees, advertisings and others expenses you can never recoup. As for the athletes, there is the New York Pro one week prior to this event, which most are competing at anyway.

Bottom line, the sponsors didn't come through this year, as they have had in the past..

sarcasm · « **Reply #34 on:** May 01, 2006, 05:09:59 PM »

Quote from: Adam Empire on May 01, 2006, 04:32:35 PM

Holy crap - you seem pretty high strung today 240...

somebody has to be and it obviously ain't the athletes otherwise this bullshit wouldn't happen.

LuciusFox · « **Reply #35 on:** May 01, 2006, 05:11:12 PM »

Quote from: sarcasm on May 01, 2006, 05:09:59 PM

somebody has to be and it obviously ain't the athletes otherwise this bullshit wouldn't happen.

It happens because pro bodybuilding is not that popular

sarcasm · « **Reply #36 on:** May 01, 2006, 05:11:36 PM »

Quote from: Ron on May 01, 2006, 05:07:13 PM

Yes - this is tough even for the promoters. They are out a lot of money, various fees, advertisings and others expenses you can never recoup. As for the athletes, there is the New York Pro one week prior to this event, which most are competing at anyway.

Bottom line, the sponsors didn't come through this year, as they have had in the past..

hey Ron being in the business yourself what type of dollars do these supplement companies put up for that type of show and what are the arrangements?

ManBearPig... · « **Reply #37 on:** May 01, 2006, 05:14:32 PM »

bodybuilding is a "dying" sport. I doubt there's any hardcore conspiracy against anyone here, and I doubt anyone's gonna benefit from this show being cancelled.

Tough shit. I feel bad for the dudes who dieted for no reason.

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #38 on:** May 01, 2006, 05:22:26 PM »

ok, i am calling for a forensic audit of the IFBB

this is not an official notice LOL

LuciusFox · « **Reply #39 on:** May 01, 2006, 05:25:01 PM »

Quote from: Power Rod on May 01, 2006, 05:14:32 PM

bodybuilding is a "dying" sport. I doubt there's any hardcore conspiracy against anyone here, and I doubt anyone's gonna benefit from this show being cancelled.

Tough shit. I feel bad for the dudes who dieted for no reason.

This is the truth. I will never again pay money to see a show.

Danny · « **Reply #40 on:** May 01, 2006, 05:56:42 PM »

What's with this show ...or people related to it

?

240 is Back · « **Reply #41 on:** May 01, 2006, 07:10:36 PM »

Quote from: Danny on May 01, 2006, 05:56:42 PM

What's with this show ...or people related to it ?

I don't get how Bob says the ousted pros should just "make Lemonade" with it, but we get a 90-second speech about what a good guy that promoter Winston is.

Bob, are you the athlete's rep or what, man? Step up and make sure this doesn't keep happening! In a world that uses contracts, people are paid for their trouble when events fail.

Ex Coelis · « **Reply #42 on:** May 01, 2006, 07:12:18 PM »

at least the Montreal Pro is still on - for now . . .

xpac2 · « **Reply #43 on:** May 01, 2006, 07:15:18 PM »

The bottom line is very few (including me) were willing to pay 80bucks a ticket plus service charge for a second tier show!

240 is Back · « **Reply #44 on:** May 01, 2006, 07:19:43 PM »

Quote from: Sean Maloney on May 01, 2006, 07:17:58 PM

I would like to think that if and when situations such as this arise, the governing organization can be counted on to step in and ensure that the competition be held as originally planned.

Amen to that. Once they take that sanctioning fee, they *should* accept responsibility for making sure the thing doesn't leave everyone screwed except them. There should be some responsibility that comes with that sanctioning, or else they shouldn't be charging a few to use their good name.

gordiano · « **Reply #45 on:** May 01, 2006, 07:20:59 PM »

Quote from: Sean Maloney on May 01, 2006, 07:17:58 PM

I would like to think that if and when situations such as this arise, the governing organization can be counted on to step in and ensure that the competition be held as originally planned.

Why would the IFBB do that? It's not like they've ever given a shit..........

gordiano · « **Reply #46 on:** May 01, 2006, 07:23:25 PM »

Quote from: Power Rod on May 01, 2006, 05:14:32 PM

bodybuilding is a "dying" sport. I doubt there's any hardcore conspiracy against anyone here, and I doubt anyone's gonna benefit from this show being cancelled.

Tough shit. I feel bad for the dudes who dieted for no reason.

Dying? Yes. Sport? No.

Hey, if they are already in good shape from dieting, they can always go have a shoot with MuscleGallery.....

JMentis · « **Reply #47 on:** May 01, 2006, 07:26:34 PM »

Quote from: Lift Studios on May 01, 2006, 04:58:45 PM

Bottom line this show was all about LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION. There was no support from fans and sponsors due to its LOCATION.

So, if there wasn't a location..officially there wasn't a show. Basically, this show was put on the IFBB calendar's "wish list"

Chick · « **Reply #48 on:** May 01, 2006, 07:37:14 PM »

There has been discussion about insuring the show for the athletes. There are many details that would need to be addressed. This very subject was brought up 3-4 years ago by Shawn and myself, as we thought it needed to be looked at, sadly, we were the ONLY two BBers that thought it was an issue.

Bottom line is, until the athletes start to take an interest in THEIR sport and the business end of it...it's going to be a slow process.

240 is Back · « **Reply #49 on:** May 01, 2006, 07:51:27 PM »

Quote from: Chick on May 01, 2006, 07:37:14 PM

There has been discussion about insuring the show for the athletes. There are many details that would need to be addressed. This very subject was brought up 3-4 years ago by Shawn and myself, as we thought it needed to be looked at, sadly, we were the ONLY two BBers that thought it was an issue.

Bottom line is, until the athletes start to take an interest in THEIR sport and the business end of it...it's going to be a slow process.

Bob, I'm not the athletes rep. but if I was, I would be on this board, EVERY DAY, discussing the need for contracts to protect athletes, promoters, and fans. I'd be emailing every athlete weekly, making your case constantly, etc. This is THE most important task you can complete outside of health insurance.

CONTRACT is the word for 2006, Bob. Push it. Use your visibility and reputation to make it happen, and please, start acting more neutral man.

Author Topic: 2006 Toronto Pro canceled! Official! (Read 27601 times)

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