Deca and winny is it dry?

[bhank]

You and dj would obviously be in different classes.

In a show where there is a certain standard and the guys who aren't up to that standard get cut immediately, even if they are clearly the best bodybuilder otherwise. That's just the way it goes.

You weren't at that standard last time, I'm talking compared to all the other classes people have posted here. Your opponents weren't at that standard either.

I'm not dissin you, it's well meaning opinion. Cuts you can do something about cuts, like I said if you were the guy with the most shredded glutes in the line-up you're almost guaranteed to be iin the running. It let's the judges know you gave it your all and were wiilling to go places where the others weren't. That's something I think you could probably do. Let's say you had ripped glutes at a month out but were otherwise eithered away. That's an easy fix, just up your carbs with some control for a whole month and regain the mass. If you truly were the most conditioned guy everyone here would give you props no matter what they thought of you otherwise. And you can't do anything about your muscle bellies and structure, conditioning you can. Any lost "muscle" over say a couple of months is quickly regained, almost overnight. Say you went to 190 at a month out, didn't like it, in that situation you might be able to actually gain 20lbs and the drugs would make it so you might retain almost the same cuts but at a higher bodyweight.
Any competitor here disagree with this?

I know very well what you're going to do, I have no illusions, but I said it just because  Thought it would be interesting if a bunch of top coaches gave you an assessment on what you could do to improve.

Wtf are they going to tell me that I don't already know come in tighter? Add size to my legs? No shit The weight class is 209lbs there is only so much to work with I am at the limit right now.  I am also 3 months out. All I need to do is consistently train for 3 months and show up.

[keanu]

Why isn't that what the judges are going to do when I get there? As far as upper body yeah I can hang with any of them. As far as legs  I I would be top 3 in that lineup if I peaked properly I could win it.

   You would be dead last in that line up B.  Last by a mile. You can hang with them on biceps, and forearms. Legs, back, chest....you are doomed.

[bhank]

   You would be dead last in that line up B.  Last by a mile. You can hang with then on biceps, and forearms. Legs, back, chest....you are doomed.

I mean look everyone is entitled to their opinion. That show is in July I am not planning to compete in July. The show I am looking at is mid-September that is 3 months away. I am on weight and in condition now. I would like to think the next 3 months I can bring things up a little as yeah, I will train harder and watch my diet more as it gets closer. I really have been taking it easy since the show giving ligaments and tendons and mind a chance to reset before going again.

I will say I pulled out the deadlift and squat stuff yesterday from the garage as weather has improved. I did deadlifts yesterday. I plan to squat today. I had planned to wait until I moved to get back into squats but can't wait any longer. If I consistently train for 3 months I will be a little better come September.

Maybe I don't win maybe I do but I do plan to come in tighter than last time simply by not stuffing my face with worry the last 24 hours. Regardless though it motivates me to train a little more. You can all say I am going to be last thats fine everyone said that last time then I won and they complained about the level of competition.

Look I know my level if I can only win a regional level NPC Show that's still pretty good. But I won the regional show I have earned the right to try a bigger National show.

I would like to find a big lineup of great over 40 competitors. I am not finding that at state level shows. I have been looking at lots of them and the depth and quality of competition just isn't there. You have to go to Nationals as a Master to get good competition so that is what I plan to do.

[joswift]

I mean look everyone is entitled to their opinion. That show is in July I am not planning to compete in July. The show I am looking at is mid-September that is 3 months away. I am on weight and in condition now. I would like to think the next 3 months I can bring things up a little as yeah, I will train harder and watch my diet more as it gets closer. I really have been taking it easy since the show giving ligaments and tendons and mind a chance to reset before going again.

I will say I pulled out the deadlift and squat stuff yesterday from the garage as weather has improved. I did deadlifts yesterday. I plan to squat today. I had planned to wait until I moved to get back into squats but can't wait any longer. If I consistently train for 3 months I will be a little better come September.

Maybe I don't win maybe I do but I do plan to come in tighter than last time simply by not stuffing my face with worry the last 24 hours. Regardless though it motivates me to train a little more. You can all say I am going to be last thats fine everyone said that last time then I won and they complained about the level of competition.

Look I know my level if I can only win a regional level NPC Show that's still pretty good. But I won the regional show I have earned the right to try a bigger National show.

I would like to find a big lineup of great over 40 competitors. I am not finding that at state level shows. I have been looking at lots of them and the depth and quality of competition just isn't there. You have to go to Nationals as a Master to get good competition so that is what I plan to do.

Bearing in mind all you have done is regress over the last 4 years how do you plan on improving in 3 months?

[keanu]

I mean look everyone is entitled to their opinion. That show is in July I am not planning to compete in July. The show I am looking at is mid-September that is 3 months away. I am on weight and in condition now. I would like to think the next 3 months I can bring things up a little as yeah, I will train harder and watch my diet more as it gets closer. I really have been taking it easy since the show giving ligaments and tendons and mind a chance to reset before going again.

I will say I pulled out the deadlift and squat stuff yesterday from the garage as weather has improved. I did deadlifts yesterday. I plan to squat today. I had planned to wait until I moved to get back into squats but can't wait any longer. If I consistently train for 3 months I will be a little better come September.

Maybe I don't win maybe I do but I do plan to come in tighter than last time simply by not stuffing my face with worry the last 24 hours. Regardless though it motivates me to train a little more. You can all say I am going to be last thats fine everyone said that last time then I won and they complained about the level of competition.

Look I know my level if I can only win a regional level NPC Show that's still pretty good. But I won the regional show I have earned the right to try a bigger National show.

I would like to find a big lineup of great over 40 competitors. I am not finding that at state level shows. I have been looking at lots of them and the depth and quality of competition just isn't there. You have to go to Nationals as a Master to get good competition so that is what I plan to do.

  I get the mentality to keep on trucking and hope for a big improvement. A lot of bodybuilders have this mentality. Bodybuilding is all about genetics. You have maxed out. You can squat all day and deadlift all night but your body won't respond. It's been 30 years of training.  You've tried every training system, nutrition, and drug cocktail out there. No new muscle is getting built here. Accept it and just have fun with it. You're not a guy that will look good on stage.

It's like DJ thinking that the right roid cocktail will turn him into a ripped statue. It won't. 

[joswift]

Wtf are they going to tell me that I don't already know come in tighter? Add size to my legs? No shit The weight class is 209lbs there is only so much to work with I am at the limit right now.  I am also 3 months out. All I need to do is consistently train for 3 months and show up.

YOU .....ARE........20...... ...POUNDS........OVERWEI GHT.......FOR....THE.... .STAGE.......

[Van_Bilderass]

I'm not changing your mind bhank but you say no one has a ripped ass but you could get one easy. So that would set you apart even more, you could best everyone in one little thing.

joswift has posted tons of pics of older gentlemen with glute cuts from some of these shows. Some even shredded. It may be gay but it's also very impressive in a way.

I agree with joswift that you are about 20lbs of from "proper" conditioning. These guys hate your guts but they aren't lying in this instance. Like I said, if you were to hit a crazy level of leanness it would be very easy to pack on those 20lbs if it looked like "shit" like what competitors do after shows all the time. But I know I'm not changing anyone's mind so no need to reply, because you've made things clear

[joswift]

I'm not changing your mind bhank but you say no one has a ripped ass but you could get one easy. So that would set you apart even more, you could best everyone in one little thing.

joswift has posted tons of pics of older gentlemen with glute cuts from some of these shows. Some even shredded. It may be gay but it's also very impressive in a way.

I agree with joswift that you are about 20lbs of from "proper" conditioning. These guys hate your guts but they aren't lying in this instance. Like I said, if you were to hit a crazy level of leanness it would be very easy to pack on those 20lbs if it looked like "shit" like what competitors do after shows all the time. But I know I'm not changing anyone's mind so no need to reply, because you've made things clear

Last weekends over 55s NABBA Britain

[38 returns]

Proper line up that mate

Did you go the north Wests? Was going to but had the kids!

[joswift]

Proper line up that mate

Did you go the north Wests? Was going to but had the kids!

Yes, good show, only problem was the competitors were on the same level as the audience, no stage

You couldnt see anyones legs because the Judges were sat in front

Johnny McKenna did a guest spot, hes huge at the moment, great guy as well, met him back in 2018 at the NW

[joswift]

someone sent me this 

[ProudVirgin69]

Last weekends over 55s NABBA Britain

Very impressive

[bhank]

someone sent me this 

Oh look a pic comparing me not in the pose yeah that is a fair comparison. One thing I noticed not one of these guys is showing striated glutes in fact all their hamstrings look soft. I thought you guys claimed no one other than me ever stepped on a bodybuilding stage without striated glutes???

[38 returns]

do you admit you look like dogs hit compared to them all?

[joswift]

Oh look a pic comparing me not in the pose yeah that is a fair comparison. One thing I noticed not one of these guys is showing striated glutes in fact all their hamstrings look soft. I thought you guys claimed no one other than me ever stepped on a bodybuilding stage without striated glutes???

You wouldnt get compared to those guys Brian

[Van_Bilderass]

Oh look a pic comparing me not in the pose yeah that is a fair comparison. One thing I noticed not one of these guys is showing striated glutes in fact all their hamstrings look soft. I thought you guys claimed no one other than me ever stepped on a bodybuilding stage without striated glutes???

I don't think anyone claimed that, but regardless, my thing was that could be something you could capitalize on since you get lean pretty easy.

These are far from the best joswift has posted. These guys are 55+, saw many others in much better conditioning.

Glute cuts aren't affected THAT much by last day manipulation, you just have to get rid of enough fat. Everyone always talks about how much water they drank but most of the time it's an excuse, or maybe some believe it.

[joswift]

I don't think anyone claimed that, but regardless, my thing was that could be something you could capitalize on since you get lean pretty easy.

These are far from the best joswift has posted. These guys are 55+, saw many others in much better conditioning.

Glute cuts aren't affected THAT much by last day manipulation, you just have to get rid of enough fat. Everyone always talks about how much water they drank but most of the time it's an excuse, or maybe some believe it.

Most of those guys are closer to 60

[bhank]

do you admit you look like dogs hit compared to them all?

Nope put me in the pose and compare it

[38 returns]

you have to be kidding me?

can you not at least accept they look better than you?

[bhank]

I don't think anyone claimed that, but regardless, my thing was that could be something you could capitalize on since you get lean pretty easy.

These are far from the best joswift has posted. These guys are 55+, saw many others in much better conditioning.

Glute cuts aren't affected THAT much by last day manipulation, you just have to get rid of enough fat. Everyone always talks about how much water they drank but most of the time it's an excuse, or maybe some believe it.

2nd place at Masters Nationals last year. He looks pretty good but glutes are not exactly striated. Additionally I think I have the better back double from the waist up my arms are better. I think my back is bigger as well but hard to say from a pic. I am certainly not getting blown away. I can dial the hams in a little more easy fix nationals is worth a little dieting. But you guys act like I am not worthy to compete in Nationals then say the lineups are all garbage and not worth competing outside of Nationals. I can certainly compete and do well at Nationals

[38 returns]

his bib embarrasses you Brian

[joswift]

Not even the same ball park, its not even the same sport

[bhank]

Not even the same ball park, its not even the same sport

 

Look at the biceps I am 100 miles ahead you make his pic small and my pic big so yeah smaller pic look like more detail make his the same size. Or better yet look at his arms they are flat on the top you can't even see either bicep both of mine peak on the rear double. I can get leaner he can't add 2 biceps

My arms are way better than this guy and he took 2nd

https://contests.npcnewsonline.com/contests/2023/npc_teen_collegiate__masters_national_championships/g9r2/anthony_bestic

[joswift]

 

Look at the biceps I am 100 miles ahead you make his pic small and my pic big so yeah smaller pic look like more detail make his the same size. Or better yet look at his arms they are flat on the top you can't even see either bicep both of mine peak on the rear double. I can get leaner he can't add 2 biceps

Lee haneys biceps werent all that great

You know Jack Shit about Bodybuilding

[38 returns]

Birna he has you on

delts
triceps
lats
teres minor and major
infraspinatus
trapeze super middle lower
erector spine
hams
calves


I will give you bicep shape

he is also much more cut than you