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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #100 on: June 14, 2024, 05:26:03 AM »
How big are your hips? You claim a 28 inch waist you think you are going to diet down to 27, 26? You don't think there is a limit? Also how do you propose you are going to get bigger and smaller at the same time? You are 157lbs with 15.25 inch arms when are you going to get bigger?


What did you eat yesterday? I guarantee it was starvation rations

It's called recomp

Lose fat while gaining muscle

Basically go from 6% to 4% which is like losing 2 or at max 3 pounds of fat, and by the way 1 pound of fat takes up a decent amount of space

So I could maybe lose about one more inch from my waist but 27 is the lowest I'll go, it 28 1/4 now

Yesterday I and 1.5 liters of milk and a scoop of protein powder and half and orange for breakfast

For lunch I had a double quarter pounder with cheese fries and a cola

For dinner I had shrimp rice and peas and a can of tuna with some cheese sauce

Total cals bout 3000

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #101 on: June 14, 2024, 05:58:11 AM »
Nandrolone derivatives are the best for hair safety according to Derek





anavar is not that safe according to him I guess because all DHT derivatives are bad really

But I goess if you really serious about fighting hairloss you should take the proven Finasteride aswell as topical minoxodil. Personally I try to avoid ED issues so I stay far away from fina

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #102 on: June 14, 2024, 06:09:02 AM »
I am however considering topical finasteride. To not get as much systemic effect on DHT, but local.


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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #103 on: June 14, 2024, 07:43:16 AM »
I am however considering topical finasteride. To not get as much systemic effect on DHT, but local.



I've been using topical finasteride for about 2 weeks now, so far no side effects.

It's mixed in with minoxidil 5% liquid.

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #104 on: June 14, 2024, 07:57:46 AM »
I am however considering topical finasteride. To not get as much systemic effect on DHT, but local.



If you haven't seen... take a look. Ships from Sweden.

https://mv-supplements.com/

Nizoral (Fungoral in Sweden) shampoo is another supposed local DHT killer.

From what I've seen online there's not much agreement by "experts" on which steroids are hair safe or not. But people automatically think a "DHT derivative" is the exact same thing as DHT, which I'm sure it's not. Some actually insist Masteron is pretty hair safe. I don't know, just saying I've seen the argumant Plus hair loss is supposed to be multifactorial anyway, and I think I've seen other hormones implicated as well.

I haven't looked for it but I'd like to try the oral minoxidil for a thicker beard perhaps. I don't know if it's easy to get. Check it out:

https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/index.php?threads/the-most-effective-compound-for-hair-loss-oral-minoxidil-aka-oral-rogaine.177708/

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #105 on: June 14, 2024, 10:44:51 AM »
If you haven't seen... take a look. Ships from Sweden.

https://mv-supplements.com/

Nizoral (Fungoral in Sweden) shampoo is another supposed local DHT killer.

From what I've seen online there's not much agreement by "experts" on which steroids are hair safe or not. But people automatically think a "DHT derivative" is the exact same thing as DHT, which I'm sure it's not. Some actually insist Masteron is pretty hair safe. I don't know, just saying I've seen the argumant Plus hair loss is supposed to be multifactorial anyway, and I think I've seen other hormones implicated as well.

I haven't looked for it but I'd like to try the oral minoxidil for a thicker beard perhaps. I don't know if it's easy to get. Check it out:

https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/index.php?threads/the-most-effective-compound-for-hair-loss-oral-minoxidil-aka-oral-rogaine.177708/
really? maybe partly explains why i kept my hairline so well. Because Ive been using that(fungoral) for the past 5-6 years because I get dandruff easy. But also for the last 4 years I have been using rogain(topical minoxodil)

I read that oral minoxodil can have effects on your heart(don't remember what) but I don't want any more risks for my heart now. Although I am on high TRT and 20mg anavar which will increase my risk of heart issues.

and re. the  DHT derivatives I have no idea how that works but obviously Derek is very well red on anything hairloss(he seems kind of obsessed with it, along with steroids) so he should know what he's talking about.

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #106 on: June 14, 2024, 11:40:34 AM »
If you haven't seen... take a look. Ships from Sweden.

https://mv-supplements.com/

re. this RU58841. But damn that is expensive..

My plan was actually just to make my own topical fina by just buying pills from prescription(easy to get) and mangle them up to powder and make my own solution. Would be 1/20 the price of that RU58841 stuff you linked. Although maybe the RU58841 is better, wtf do I know right. Price is an issue though.

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #107 on: June 14, 2024, 12:17:24 PM »
I've been using topical finasteride for about 2 weeks now, so far no side effects.

It's mixed in with minoxidil 5% liquid.

How do you use it, do you shampoo and rinse or leave it on overnight? I tried minoxidil for a week but stopped due to scalp irritation. I left it on overnight.

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #108 on: June 14, 2024, 12:19:04 PM »
Careful with the RU58841 I’ve read many horror stories of cardiopulmonary side effects like palpitations / shortness of breath lasting for months. It would be my last resort.

On the minoxidil box it says it’s not for the forehead hairline / frontal crown area?

I’ve never heard anything about minoxidil not being effective for this area?

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #109 on: June 14, 2024, 12:29:19 PM »
Careful with the RU58841 I’ve read many horror stories of cardiopulmonary side effects like palpitations / shortness of breath lasting for months. It would be my last resort.

On the minoxidil box it says it’s not for the forehead hairline / frontal crown area?

I’ve never heard anything about minoxidil not being effective for this area?
why wouldn't it? worked for me. some regrowth.

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #110 on: June 14, 2024, 12:36:00 PM »

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #111 on: June 14, 2024, 01:09:41 PM »
How do you use it, do you shampoo and rinse or leave it on overnight? I tried minoxidil for a week but stopped due to scalp irritation. I left it on overnight.

I leave it on at night.

It does dry the scalp and caused itchiness for me, but I now use Alpecin Sensitive Shampoo which I leave on for a few minutes when showering and haven't had any more issues.

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #112 on: June 15, 2024, 09:53:48 PM »
I Started topical minoxidil Monday and last nights shower was DISTURBING how much hair was shedding. You could roll it up into a golf ball. I was legit traumatized.

Hopefully it’s the “shedding phase” of minoxidil. Either way no more masteron for me ever. Even with a good estrogen of 42 I shed like crazy.

Experiment over. DHTs never again :(


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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #113 on: June 16, 2024, 11:17:34 AM »
Re. Topical finasteride.

It actually looks very promising to me. Proven haircount increase in double blind study in 2022. Without the systemic uptake heavy side effects.


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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #114 on: June 16, 2024, 12:17:59 PM »
It's called recomp

Lose fat while gaining muscle

Basically go from 6% to 4% which is like losing 2 or at max 3 pounds of fat, and by the way 1 pound of fat takes up a decent amount of space

So I could maybe lose about one more inch from my waist but 27 is the lowest I'll go, it 28 1/4 now

Yesterday I and 1.5 liters of milk and a scoop of protein powder and half and orange for breakfast

For lunch I had a double quarter pounder with cheese fries and a cola

For dinner I had shrimp rice and peas and a can of tuna with some cheese sauce

Total cals bout 3000

Recomp? You were a meth head to start. Gaining muscle? You are going to have a 27 inch waist now? Again how big are your hips??? That ratio you swear by is based on your hips not your waist. You can't change the size of your hips

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #115 on: June 16, 2024, 12:45:00 PM »
Recomp? You were a meth head to start. Gaining muscle? You are going to have a 27 inch waist now? Again how big are your hips??? That ratio you swear by is based on your hips not your waist. You can't change the size of your hips

Your obsession with calorie cutting is rather comical

Me thinks you are too much of a pussy to suffer through a low calorie diet

You do realise that King Zane dieted on 1200 calories for 3 months or so right?

He weighed high 180s onstage

Your too mentally weak to go through that

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #116 on: June 16, 2024, 12:56:09 PM »
Your obsession with calorie cutting is rather comical

Me thinks you are too much of a pussy to suffer through a low calorie diet

You do realise that King Zane dieted on 1200 calories for 3 months or so right?

He weighed high 180s onstage

Your too mentally weak to go through that

What obsession I am not counting calories. I dieted for decades wrestling in a weight class. Then I realized that not eating and doing cardio all day was not healthy and had stunted my growth so I started eating and lifting. Much happier eating and lifting.

Dont talk about mental weakness when you still don't train legs Mr 20 inches

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #117 on: June 16, 2024, 01:56:33 PM »
What obsession I am not counting calories. I dieted for decades wrestling in a weight class. Then I realized that not eating and doing cardio all day was not healthy and had stunted my growth so I started eating and lifting. Much happier eating and lifting.

Dont talk about mental weakness when you still don't train legs Mr 20 inches

Both wounds are finally closed and shut but not sure if I will train legs anyways as I never keep it going past 6 weeks or so

Funny thing is if I did decide to train them I'd add 2 full inches to each one within a matter of weeks

How do I know this? Last November I trained them for like 4 weeks and they got up to 22 1/2 inches so if I'd trained them now they'd jump to that size very quickly as they are severely untrained and atrophisized

They've been 24 1/2 before but I was a fat 10-12% so that measurement does not count in my book

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #118 on: June 16, 2024, 01:59:19 PM »
Both wounds are finally closed and shut but not sure if I will train legs anyways as I never keep it going past 6 weeks or so

Funny thing is if I did decide to train them I'd add 2 full inches to each one within a matter of weeks

How do I know this? Last November I trained them for like 4 weeks and they got up to 22 1/2 inches so if I'd trained them now they'd jump to that size very quickly as they are severely untrained and atrophisized

They've been 24 1/2 before but I was a fat 10-12% so that measurement does not count in my book

Why do you have wounds on your legs? Did you go to gangbangs with these puss and semen filled sores?

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #119 on: June 16, 2024, 02:51:53 PM »
Why do you have wounds on your legs? Did you go to gangbangs with these puss and semen filled sores?

Hahaha

Bad injects from the harpoon needle

Didn't have any slin pin needles available and didn't feel like going to the pharmacy to get more

Big mistake

I'll never use harpoon needles again

By the by waist is still at 28.5 inches but I have added a full inch to my chest and 1/2 to my shoulders and 1/3 to my arms💪😎

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #120 on: June 17, 2024, 08:46:30 AM »
Both wounds are finally closed and shut but not sure if I will train legs anyways as I never keep it going past 6 weeks or so

Funny thing is if I did decide to train them I'd add 2 full inches to each one within a matter of weeks

How do I know this? Last November I trained them for like 4 weeks and they got up to 22 1/2 inches so if I'd trained them now they'd jump to that size very quickly as they are severely untrained and atrophisized

They've been 24 1/2 before but I was a fat 10-12% so that measurement does not count in my book

It's easy to make gains when you start from 0

You would think your own statement would motivate you to train them

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #121 on: June 17, 2024, 11:16:45 AM »
Why do you have wounds on your legs? Did you go to gangbangs with these puss and semen filled sores?

Probably had puss dick too.

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #122 on: June 19, 2024, 12:19:36 PM »
Re. Topical finasteride.

It actually looks very promising to me. Proven haircount increase in double blind study in 2022. Without the systemic uptake heavy side effects.


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I got an rx for dutasteride and will dose extremely low at 0.5mg every 10-15 days to be safe. I will also be mixing them into the Kirkland liquid minoxidil and applying topically.

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #123 on: June 20, 2024, 08:14:49 PM »
I got an rx for dutasteride and will dose extremely low at 0.5mg every 10-15 days to be safe. I will also be mixing them into the Kirkland liquid minoxidil and applying topically.

Topical finasteride gives the same or similar results as using the tables daily, but without any of the systemic side effects.

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Re: Hair safe cutting cycle recommendation?
« Reply #124 on: June 21, 2024, 01:11:58 AM »
Topical finasteride gives the same or similar results as using the tables daily, but without any of the systemic side effects.

But I've seen the comment, "you think the drug doesn't seep into the body at all?" And if it doesn't really penetrate do you know it's going to where it needs to be, deep enough? AFAIK there is no topical fina on Rx.