Mens physique pro on 5+ grams

[visualizeperfection]

Is there a tech nerd that can scrape the board, analyze every DJ post and give an estimate of how big he should be based on his 1/2” gains here and there to his various body parts? According to my rough estimates he should have a 14” waist and over 30” arms.

[38 returns]

dj is more ripped than you Fatboy

[dj181]

Watching another vid from them talking about oral deployment and Jewett said steroids main role is muscle tissue retention

Absurd

[dj181]

dj is more ripped than you Fatboy

This turd insults my leanness due to that fact that he can not obtain this level of condition so he says this meth horseshit based upon pure jealousy and resentment and a good dose of bigorexia

Can't wait to see how he reacts when I do get my previous level of size back but with the tiny waist and condition 😂😂😂

I'll just keep getting stronger and stronger while eating maintenance or slightly above and all will come into fruition 💪😎

[dj181]

Is there a tech nerd that can scrape the board, analyze every DJ post and give an estimate of how big he should be based on his 1/2” gains here and there to his various body parts? According to my rough estimates he should have a 14” waist and over 30” arms.

Hahahaha

[dj181]

Hey van

They just said aldosterone is the main driver of water retention not estrogen although estrogen does play a role

So how does one limit of cut down aldosterone levels?

They may provide the answer as I am still listening to the podcast but I'd like to get your input/opinion

[joswift]

Hey van

They just said aldosterone is the main driver of water retention not estrogen although estrogen does play a role

So how does one limit of cut down aldosterone levels?

They may provide the answer as I am still listening to the podcast but I'd like to get your input/opinion

Go and get a job you fucking bum...

[bhank]

This turd insults my leanness due to that fact that he can not obtain this level of condition so he says this meth horseshit based upon pure jealousy and resentment and a good dose of bigorexia

Can't wait to see how he reacts when I do get my previous level of size back but with the tiny waist and condition 😂😂😂

I'll just keep getting stronger and stronger while eating maintenance or slightly above and all will come into fruition 💪😎

You are not lean you are skinny fat. I am trying to help you. You actually looked decent in Poland. You have slipped way deep into anorexia now and look like you are dying.

[joswift]

You are not lean you are skinny fat. I am trying to help you. You actually looked decent in Poland. You have slipped way deep into anorexia now and look like you are dying.

However he looks it beats this

[dj181]

Biceps peak is not too shabby but that's what happens when you have short biceps

Bill grant had very long biceps same with Sergio Olivia hence a good part of the reason they both had massive arms

Mentzer had very long triceps which again was a major reason why he had massive arms

If you don't have long muscles in your arms they won't ever be able to get very big

Muscle length is probably the biggest determinant of potential muscle size

Same holds true for calves and calf length

Grant also had very short calf muscles and as a result his calves were tiny

In a recent podcast I listened to with Broderick chavez and Dave crossland and Scott McNally Broderick said that grant injected gear into his calf hoping it would make them grow bigger but it didn't work

[dj181]

You are not lean you are skinny fat. I am trying to help you. You actually looked decent in Poland. You have slipped way deep into anorexia now and look like you are dying.

Yep guess there's lots of fat fellas walking round with cross-starations in thier triceps

Yeah that sounds bout right

[dj181]

That arm is not much over 15 wonder how it would look in this same condition at 17 inches?

Honestly I think my genetic arm limit is 16 inch in this condition

Who cares bout 16 inches in worse condition than this, for me it doesnt count what counts is how big is your arm at 5-6% bodyfat

[bhank]

Biceps peak is not too shabby but that's what happens when you have short biceps

Bill grant had very long biceps same with Sergio Olivia hence a good part of the reason they both had massive arms

Mentzer had very long triceps which again was a major reason why he had massive arms

If you don't have long muscles in your arms they won't ever be able to get very big

Muscle length is probably the biggest determinant of potential muscle size

Same holds true for calves and calf length

Grant also had very short calf muscles and as a result his calves were tiny

In a recent podcast I listened to with Broderick chavez and Dave crossland and Scott McNally Broderick said that grant injected gear into his calf hoping it would make them grow bigger but it didn't work

Its a 15.25 inch arm thats not from lack of genetics that is from lack of food my forearms tape 16

[bhank]

That arm is not much over 15 wonder how it would look in this same condition at 17 inches?

Honestly I think my genetic arm limit is 16 inch in this condition

Who cares bout 16 inches in worse condition than this, for me it doesnt count what counts is how big is your arm at 5-6% bodyfat

No one has fat on a 15 inch arm but your midsection shows no abs or hardness you are not shredded you are just depleted and thin. Again you do not look healthy you need about 20lbs just to not look like a meth head at this point. Your anorexia has gone too manic you are way past looking good you look like death

[Humble Narcissist]

However he looks it beats this

Looks completely untrained.

[joswift]

Looks completely untrained.

come on, he just over carbed and missed his peak, he was diced the day before the show   

[BigRo]

That arm is not much over 15 wonder how it would look in this same condition at 17 inches?

Honestly I think my genetic arm limit is 16 inch in this condition

Who cares bout 16 inches in worse condition than this, for me it doesnt count what counts is how big is your arm at 5-6% bodyfat

You always talk about how you don't want to be big because big men die sooner but you seem oblivious to the fact that trying to maintain 5-6 percent bodyfat year round is very bad for you.

[Skeletor]

come on, he just over carbed and missed his peak, he was diced the day before the show   

And the guy he beat to become the “NPC champion” looked like Arnold.

[Humble Narcissist]

come on, he just over carbed and missed his peak, he was diced the day before the show   

On the coffee and donuts diet.

[Van_Bilderass]

Hey van

They just said aldosterone is the main driver of water retention not estrogen although estrogen does play a role

So how does one limit of cut down aldosterone levels?

They may provide the answer as I am still listening to the podcast but I'd like to get your input/opinion

You don't worry about it, that's key. You just stay hydrated and don't do anything extreme with the diet.

But WHY is there a concern with "water retention" anyway. Ever see a guy you see is ripped to shreds but is holding tons of water? That's right you don't see it. Guys prepping worry about water retention all through the diet, think about drug choices, but it's NOT a concern except on show day. Some extra water from drugs is just positive on a diet if anything. Water retention can be fixed in days, hours, minutes, why the concern with being bone dry at all times.

Like I said, and those guys say, there are a bunch of hormones affecting water levels. Basically all steroids can and do cause it. Like tren. Like Halotestin (just check the prescribing info), every anabolic steroid. It has to do with those hormones, sodium retention, mineralcorticoid effects.

One could employ angiotensin-renin blockers, ARBs, when on steroids to reduce water retention a little. Paul I bet is on telmisartan, like almost ALL of them are, all due to Victor Black's propaganda. This class of steroids can theoretically be protective of most of steroids deleterious effects. Some speculate this should be in your arsenal from day one, even if your blood pressure is good. In retrospect I wish I had known about them from day one.

[joswift]

You don't worry about it, that's key. You just stay hydrated and don't do anything extreme with the diet.

But WHY is there a concern with "water retention" anyway. Ever see a guy you see is ripped to shreds but is holding tons of water? That's right you don't see it. Guys prepping worry about water retention all through the diet, think about drug choices, but it's NOT a concern except on show day. Some extra water from drugs is just positive on a diet if anything. Water retention can be fixed in days, hours, minutes, why the concern with being bone dry at all times.

Like I said, and those guys say, there are a bunch of hormones affecting water levels. Basically all steroids can and do cause it. Like tren. Like Halotestin (just check the prescribing info), every anabolic steroid. It has to do with those hormones, sodium retention, mineralcorticoid effects.

One could employ angiotensin-renin blockers, ARBs, when on steroids to reduce water retention a little. Paul I bet is on telmisartan, like almost ALL of them are, all due to Victor Black's propaganda. This class of steroids can theoretically be protective of most of steroids deleterious effects. Some speculate this should be in your arsenal from day one, even if your blood pressure is good. In retrospect I wish I had known about them from day one.

Why do you keep saying that water retention isnt a problem
Its a serious health problem it can also cause cellulitis which is disastrous for a bodybuilder, also your BP will be up if you are holding water.
Not great for your kidneys either.

[Van_Bilderass]

You saw where I have already gained a full inch or 2.5 cm to my chest and to my shoulders right? Milometers my ass😂😂😂

In my opinion what you see with your changing measurements is just very temporary, it's mostly temporary swelling due to how much training you are doing. Strength is a very good gauge for whether you are growing but like I've told you, small shifts in workout performace tell you almost nothing. Are you actually getting measurably stronger over time? Is there actually a plate added to an exercise over a year? Most of us do not get stronger actually, many of us haven't gotten stronger in decades.Instead what happens is we just regress and regain strength but new gains, no.

[Van_Bilderass]

Why do you keep saying that water retention isnt a problem
Its a serious health problem it can also cause cellulitis which is disastrous for a bodybuilder, also your BP will be up if you are holding water.
Not great for your kidneys either.

I meant aesthetically. Why the need to be dry at all times? When it can be "fixed" quickly when you actually want extra dryness.

Obviously water can be a big health problem. I was in fact prescribed continuous aldactone to ease strain on the heart. But I don't get why dj is so obsessed with it, he doesn't show actual edema. If you actually get pitting edema in your ankles that is very serious.

[bhank]

Looks completely untrained.

Well I am not in a pose there so there is that

[bhank]

And the guy he beat to become the “NPC champion” looked like Arnold.

If you think you can do better I can send you the contest schedule