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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2024, 08:06:31 AM »
What actually happened?

When I visited Gold’s in Venice, he was dismissive and full of himself.

No crazy story.

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #51 on: June 27, 2024, 09:14:22 AM »
Flex is hated for being the biggest Douche in BB history (even ahead of Ferrigno)...  So he brought everything to himself" HOWEVER...
Did he really abuse his body to an alarming degree more than guys like Gaspari and Levrone ?


100% he did, He was using 2-3 times what Chris and Paul were using and his cycles  basically had no scientific strategy it was simply what he could afford and source, after guest posing on the weekend a crackheads approach to bodybuilding it was suicidal and he was always going to have issues, still a genetic freak but when you see genetics on that level along with dosages on that level its time to retire you simply can't compete with them or aspire too without adopting the same insane approach.

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #52 on: June 27, 2024, 09:20:34 AM »
93 Arnold was the only time he really dialed in

Was always watery in the hams and glutes, that was possibly his kidneys already crying out for help.

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #53 on: June 27, 2024, 09:22:45 AM »
100% he did, He was using 2-3 times what Chris and Paul were using and his cycles  basically had no scientific strategy it was simply what he could afford and source, after guest posing on the weekend a crackheads approach to bodybuilding it was suicidal and he was always going to have issues, still a genetic freak but when you see genetics on that level along with dosages on that level its time to retire you simply can't compete with them or aspire too without adopting the same insane approach.
+ he used synthol

Levrone never did.

Cormier not sure he might have done small amounts

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #54 on: June 27, 2024, 09:22:58 AM »
93 Arnold was the only time he really dialed in

Was always watery in the hams and glutes, that was possibly his kidneys already crying out for help.
yeah 96 or so he was bigger but like you said soft in rear ,,and his abs blurry by 98 and delts that looked like cliffs from the sides.

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #55 on: June 27, 2024, 09:23:14 AM »
93 Arnold was the only time he really dialed in

Was always watery in the hams and glutes, that was possibly his kidneys already crying out for help.

i think all the oil in 98 is the reason for his roasted kidneys

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #56 on: June 27, 2024, 09:27:08 AM »
i think all the oil in 98 is the reason for his roasted kidneys
he knew his kidneys were almost shot and he still threw in his normal diuretics in 2002

he was pretty much fucked at this point

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #57 on: June 27, 2024, 09:37:36 AM »
he knew his kidneys were almost shot and he still threw in his normal diuretics in 2002

he was pretty much fucked at this point
Worked with a guy whose kidneys were already in their tipping point. Heroin. He couldnt care less. Maybe self esteem issues.

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #58 on: June 27, 2024, 10:23:31 AM »
Before we formally “met”, I attended one of his seminars. Bob at MMI wanted me to pen a little piece in review for the mag.

This was in the first year or two of his professional standing.

Flex sat on a stool and talked for two hours about pre-contest water loss and his varying achievements of being dry.

Truly a ridiculous couple of hours.




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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #59 on: June 27, 2024, 10:27:08 AM »
Before we formally “met”, I attended one of his seminars. Bob at MMI wanted me to pen a little piece in review for the mag.

This was in the first year or two of his professional standing.

Flex sat on a stool and talked for two hours about pre-contest water loss and his varying achievements of being dry.

Truly a ridiculous couple of hours.
Most pros have no idea about the intricacies of contest prep

Went to  Robbie Robisnson seminar years ago, someone asked him about protien and carb ratios and the digestive system using acids and alkalies to break down food.

He looked at her and said "Off season I use a big bowl and pre-contest I use a small bowl"

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #60 on: June 27, 2024, 10:42:23 AM »
Most pros have no idea about the intricacies of contest prep

Went to  Robbie Robisnson seminar years ago, someone asked him about protien and carb ratios and the digestive system using acids and alkalies to break down food.

He looked at her and said "Off season I use a big bowl and pre-contest I use a small bowl"
i believe it...people need something to write to fool the reader or sell mag's..

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #61 on: June 27, 2024, 02:08:03 PM »
93 Arnold was the only time he really dialed in

Was always watery in the hams and glutes, that was possibly his kidneys already crying out for help.

Agree never got dry like that again as he tried to get bigger, IMO if he brought that physique at that weight to every Olympia besides Yates 93 he might have won one. He lost detail as he got bigger but not better. That Ironman look in 93 was jaw dropping in shape structure and detail. I only rate Yates 93 higher, I think 92 would have been close, Yates contest condition in person can never be under estimated though it made you look past his flaws post 93 as it was head to toe conditioning.

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #62 on: June 27, 2024, 02:08:08 PM »
GROWING UP IN NJ GASPARI REPORTEDY HAD HEART ATTACKS EVERY YEAR...LOL..

Christ...

Well I do recall he was rushed into hospital a few years back and given last minute stents, etc.  Not sure that was posted about on here at the time.  Hopefully all fixed now

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #63 on: June 27, 2024, 03:16:35 PM »
" In a attempt to save my right leg. A stent was put in my right peck that goes all the way down to my right leg.
Unfortunately the day after the emergency surgery the stent irrupted. Within seconds my right peck, shoulder and neck was full of Blood🩸 to the point were my neck was so swollen that I was losing consciousness due to not being able to breathe. My amazing doctors had to go in and do a emergency surgery to stop the blood loss. But due to me being on intravenous heparin ,
They had to wait 24 hours to make sure I wouldn’t bleed out. So I laid there screaming and hallucinating going in and out of consciousness. Due to the nerve damage and neuropathy. I lost full usage of my right peck, shoulder all the way down to my fingers. ( evidently blood and nerve endings/internal tissue don’t get along too well )

It wasnt a stent, it was a PTFE tube / bypass from his Axilla or Subclavian artery tunneled under his skin to his groin. Likely the anastomosis at his shoulder area let go, probably technical error, leading to massive hematoma /bleeding compressing nerves etc. Ultimately costing him his leg due to lacking circulation to his leg. There were / are other alternatives to fix his problem, can't be sure why they weren't performed. Sad
                                                                                                       

I had to learn how to do EVERYTHING!! I mean EVERYTHING ( FEEL ME ) Even write with my left hand.
I’ve gained about 20% of my right peck, arm and hand back so far... _____

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His arms are all messed up, see the start of this - https://www.instagram.com/officialflexwheeler/reel/C8pnPGSy3Gu/ .

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #64 on: June 27, 2024, 04:33:41 PM »
He's in the zone for a new one, transplanted kidneys don't last forever. My experience from watching a few transplant bodybuilders / strength athletes over the years, 15-20 years seems to be the transplanted kidney's lifespan. Flex had his transplant in 2003.


A woman who works for me had one last 28 years. She just had another transplant about 3 years ago. It was genetics for her to have kidney problems, and she tries to be healthy which is why I assume her first one lasted so long.

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #65 on: June 27, 2024, 04:48:50 PM »
+ he used synthol

Levrone never did.

Cormier not sure he might have done small amounts

Cormier supposedly said he's ok with synthol "if it's done like a woman using make up".  His side delts were suspect looking but he was still way better than Flex at the 1999 Olympia.

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #66 on: June 27, 2024, 05:06:04 PM »
Agree never got dry like that again as he tried to get bigger, IMO if he brought that physique at that weight to every Olympia besides Yates 93 he might have won one. He lost detail as he got bigger but not better. That Ironman look in 93 was jaw dropping in shape structure and detail. I only rate Yates 93 higher, I think 92 would have been close, Yates contest condition in person can never be under estimated though it made you look past his flaws post 93 as it was head to toe conditioning.

I've said this a few times

He played the size game and lost

Should have just stayed with shape as he had this in spades

And yep his shape was better when he was lighter

King Zane even played the size game in 82 and lost

He went up to 200 and nearly all of the that size went to his midsection as he focused on pin pulls to "thicken up" too bad it basically just thickened up his waist/midsection

The next year in 83 he came in at his lightest ever at 180 he won 78 and 79 at 187 or so

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #67 on: June 28, 2024, 12:22:31 AM »
Cormier supposedly said he's ok with synthol "if it's done like a woman using make up".  His side delts were suspect looking but he was still way better than Flex at the 1999 Olympia.
yeah I think he used in his delts and biceps at some point from what I can tell.

Ofcourse he looked way better before he did that like they all do. Oil never enhances a muscle imo, it just doesn't look right. I can't think of one case.

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #68 on: June 28, 2024, 02:05:24 AM »
yeah I think he used in his delts and biceps at some point from what I can tell.

Ofcourse he looked way better before he did that like they all do. Oil never enhances a muscle imo, it just doesn't look right. I can't think of one case.

bearing in mind pretty much every pro uses oil then Im sure some havent ruined themselves
Heath was rumoured to have oiled his arms for years

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #69 on: June 28, 2024, 04:08:28 AM »
Most pros have no idea about the intricacies of contest prep

Went to  Robbie Robisnson seminar years ago, someone asked him about protien and carb ratios and the digestive system using acids and alkalies to break down food.

He looked at her and said "Off season I use a big bowl and pre-contest I use a small bowl"
Very scientific approach !  ;D

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #70 on: June 28, 2024, 04:09:52 AM »
Zane at his best when lighter
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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #71 on: June 28, 2024, 04:24:14 AM »
bearing in mind pretty much every pro uses oil then Im sure some havent ruined themselves
Heath was rumoured to have oiled his arms for years
I don't think so. Ofcourse oil freaks like Bostin Loyd claimed that because it would make them feel better about themselves but no not true.

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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #72 on: June 28, 2024, 04:40:44 AM »
i think all the oil in 98 is the reason for his roasted kidneys

It Might be , but the diuretics and drugs alone did damage and sent him to the hospital prior 98 in several occasions,



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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #73 on: June 28, 2024, 04:45:04 AM »
Most pros have no idea about the intricacies of contest prep

Went to  Robbie Robisnson seminar years ago, someone asked him about protien and carb ratios and the digestive system using acids and alkalies to break down food.

He looked at her and said "Off season I use a big bowl and pre-contest I use a small bowl"

Very scientific approach !  ;D

I doubt the dumbf**k couldn't even spell 'bowl'!  ;D
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Re: Flex Wheeler needs another kidney ?
« Reply #74 on: June 28, 2024, 06:35:37 AM »
I doubt the dumbf**k couldn't even spell 'bowl'!  ;D
Or "ask". Maybe something wrong with their mouff.