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TRT and/or Steroids?
« on: July 13, 2024, 07:48:45 AM »

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Re: TRT and/or Steroids?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2024, 08:06:59 AM »
What irks me is these shitstains who claim they are on trt using more than 125 mgs of test

Anything above 125 mgs of test IS NOT TRT PERIOD

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Re: TRT and/or Steroids?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2024, 08:21:46 AM »
What irks me is these shitstains who claim they are on trt using more than 125 mgs of test

Anything above 125 mgs of test IS NOT TRT PERIOD

We have learned that TRT is anything the dr. prescribes.

What we have not learned is what ailment  said person who is prescribed 300mg has that warranted the doctor's "decision" to go to that range.
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Re: TRT and/or Steroids?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2024, 08:26:48 AM »
We have learned that TRT is anything the dr. prescribes.

What we have not learned is what ailment  said person who is prescribed 300mg has that warranted the doctor's "decision" to go to that range.

In Brains case it was that he has no balls for a fight

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Re: TRT and/or Steroids?
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2024, 09:24:04 AM »
Bhanky has special, unique medical problems as well documented on this forum.

As such he requires custom compounded bio-identical hormones and other concoctions.

These medications are not intended, and do not, as evidenced by Bhanky's body, build muscle.

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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2024, 10:11:35 AM »
We have learned that TRT is anything the dr. prescribes.

What we have not learned is what ailment  said person who is prescribed 300mg has that warranted the doctor's "decision" to go to that range.

That's true

Seems most everyone lies about how much they really take including STANKins

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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2024, 10:13:26 AM »
That's true

Seems most everyone lies about how much they really take including STANKins

Bhanky isn't lying because he believes his lies are true.

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Re: TRT and/or Steroids?
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2024, 10:31:38 AM »
What irks me is these shitstains who claim they are on trt using more than 125 mgs of test

Anything above 125 mgs of test IS NOT TRT PERIOD

The AMA recognizes up to 500mgs per week for TRT and far more for burn recovery

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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2024, 10:43:17 AM »
The AMA recognizes up to 500mgs per week for TRT and far more for burn recovery

Well that's just bullshit for replacement of test levels but for treating diseases like buns or anemia then yeah it can be higher but just don't try and tell me that's for testosterone replacement


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Re: TRT and/or Steroids?
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2024, 03:07:42 PM »
What irks me is these shitstains who claim they are on trt using more than 125 mgs of test

Anything above 125 mgs of test IS NOT TRT PERIOD

I’m on 180mg week and it makes me feel great. I rarely get sick, have energy for workouts etc. I started out at 100mg week about 6 years ago. Maybe 7.

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Re: TRT and/or Steroids?
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2024, 03:20:14 PM »
What irks me is these shitstains who claim they are on trt using more than 125 mgs of test

Anything above 125 mgs of test IS NOT TRT PERIOD

What would what anyone else does or doesn't do irk you? I have already proven Doctors prescribe 300mg but DJ knows better

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Re: TRT and/or Steroids?
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2024, 03:21:04 PM »
The AMA recognizes up to 500mgs per week for TRT and far more for burn recovery

Finally someone who has done actual research and isn't just talking ignorance

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Re: TRT and/or Steroids?
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2024, 03:21:35 PM »
Well that's just bullshit for replacement of test levels but for treating diseases like buns or anemia then yeah it can be higher but just don't try and tell me that's for testosterone replacement

Because DJ knows better????

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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2024, 03:36:38 PM »
What would what anyone else does or doesn't do irk you? I have already proven Doctors prescribe 300mg but DJ knows better

Brian did you forget all the suspensions and fines and convictions your so called "doctor" has?

Stop pretending it hasnt happened Brian, you cant be this fucking stupid to still think your gaslighting is fooling anyone here.

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Re: TRT and/or Steroids?
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2024, 03:38:44 PM »
The AMA recognizes up to 500mgs per week for TRT and far more for burn recovery
Care to provide some evidence for that statement?

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Re: TRT and/or Steroids?
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2024, 03:51:54 PM »
Brian did you forget all the suspensions and fines and convictions your so called "doctor" has?

Stop pretending it hasnt happened Brian, you cant be this fucking stupid to still think your gaslighting is fooling anyone here.

Doesn't matter he is still a Dr and he still prescribed 300mg and guess what he is not the only one that has been the standard dosage for every dr I have ever used. I told you that and you called me  a liar. I prove you wrong and now its your Dr go a fine for something so fucking what

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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2024, 04:01:26 PM »
Doesn't matter he is still a Dr and he still prescribed 300mg and guess what he is not the only one that has been the standard dosage for every dr I have ever used. I told you that and you called me  a liar. I prove you wrong and now its your Dr go a fine for something so fucking what

why did you get a doctor 12 hours away from your home?

Dont respond, its because he would prescribe anything you asked as long as you paid, he has been suspended multiple times for doing just that.

You proved that you got a doctor to sell you testosterone
You havent provided any evidnece that TRT is 350mgs a week,

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Re: TRT and/or Steroids?
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2024, 05:56:57 PM »
Care to provide some evidence for that statement?

I went to the Mayo in Scottsdale in 2011

It was in a pamphlet

I posted a snap shot of the guidelines here in 2012

I do not have the literature anymore


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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2024, 06:15:59 PM »
Some "experts" have claimed that they've had the rare patient who metabolise test so quickly that they still fell within normal levels on as much as 500mg. Don't know if true.

These clinic docs have moved to call what they do "hormone optimisation." Because things like Anavar and Deca aren't TRT obviously. Then there are docs who say they believe in "treating symptoms instead of levels." I suppose that is sometimes done with different classes of drugs not just HRT. Buut I don't see how this optimisation is legal, I think the law hasn't changed since about 1991? Because of this I assume there isn't the political will to enforce the law, they have given up. I don't see how this could be rolled back, same with GH that is supposedly illegal in everything but very rare cases of loss of pituitary function. Too many people, including celebrities, politicians, police etc won't want to give it up. Since 1991 almost no docs were prescribing "performance and physique enhancing drugs," just the last few years, but I guess a lot of docs were determined to push their luck and now it's basically accepted.

I do remember The Coach saying he was prescribed Dianabol from a clinic many years ago. But Dianabol was like the boogie man of steroids, something developed expressly for performance increase, the "Breakfast of Champions." It still is wonderful steroid although the current youtube bodybuilding PED "experts" say it belongs in the trash. But this stance was just pushed by one man and "everyone" took after him because they can't think for themselves.

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Re: TRT and/or Steroids?
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2024, 10:16:42 PM »
I’m on 180mg week and it makes me feel great. I rarely get sick, have energy for workouts etc. I started out at 100mg week about 6 years ago. Maybe 7.

What's your total test level

If it's over 900 you are outta range my friend

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Re: TRT and/or Steroids?
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2024, 06:24:08 AM »
What's your total test level

If it's over 900 you are outta range my friend


It’s under that. Usually high 700’s or low 800’s. He actually told me he wanted to see me up near 1,000 but I said I thought that would be too much. He said my test to estrogen level was good so I was probably okay. I do bloodwork and have done a few executive physicals and everything seems to be okay and within normal tolerances.

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Re: TRT and/or Steroids?
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2024, 06:28:46 AM »
I went to the Mayo in Scottsdale in 2011

It was in a pamphlet

I posted a snap shot of the guidelines here in 2012

I do not have the literature anymore
A pamphlet?

You think a pamphlet over rides every other single source of evidence that can currently be found?

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« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2024, 07:02:25 AM »
Doesn't matter he is still a Dr and he still prescribed 300mg and guess what he is not the only one that has been the standard dosage for every dr I have ever used. I told you that and you called me  a liar. I prove you wrong and now its your Dr go a fine for something so fucking what

What condition did you have that your test was so low that 300mg was prescribed?
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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2024, 07:15:00 AM »
What condition did you have that your test was so low that 300mg was prescribed?

He went to a dodctor who sells testosterone..he didnt even test Brain, he bought it mail order
You really think he drove 12 hours to pick up a vial of test?

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« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2024, 07:26:28 AM »
He went to a dodctor who sells testosterone..he didnt even test Brain, he bought it mail order
You really think he drove 12 hours to pick up a vial of test?

I would prefer he answer the question.

When TRT was offered to me, they told me I would likely start at 40-60mg, and I'm probably 6 years older than him.

So, if multiple doctors are prescribing 300mg, I would like to know why his test was so suppressed to warrant that, giving his again and commitment to working out.

Must be bad.
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