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Re: Trump Assassination Attempt - 07-13-24
« Reply #125 on: July 14, 2024, 03:59:49 AM »
X2, all staged

Having a bullet graze his face fired from 200 metres away.

''All staged.''

 

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Re: Trump Assassination Attempt - 07-13-24
« Reply #126 on: July 14, 2024, 04:05:44 AM »
Biggest issue I see here is how did this happen, how does someone get 5 shots off that close to a president, the answer,it was allowed to happen,? Im not saying this was a Biden hit and im not ruling out complete complacency of the security services, but what happened today should never happen in 2024. I did note the amount of useless women in the SS protection today, some overweight is this the type of protection diversity targets will deliver.

But that was a monumental failure of government lucky the shooter was some left wing idiot who couldn't shoot.









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Re: Trump Assassination Attempt - 07-13-24
« Reply #127 on: July 14, 2024, 04:09:19 AM »
Why/how did these sharp shooters allow this?



"The gunman was posted on the roof of a manufacturing plant more than 130 yards away from the stage. The unidentified shooter was quickly killed by Secret Service snipers, but not before he nicked the president, killed a rally-goer and seriously injured another."

Watch video:

https://nypost.com/2024/07/13/us-news/trumps-secret-service-detail-is-just-a-fraction-of-that-of-sitting-presidents-sources/

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Re: Trump Assassination Attempt - 07-13-24
« Reply #128 on: July 14, 2024, 04:12:22 AM »
People saw the shooter scale the building with rifle and alerted authorities and nothing was done.

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Re: Trump Assassination attempt
« Reply #129 on: July 14, 2024, 04:14:14 AM »
Pretty pathetic protection and response i must say.

Looked too easy to get a shot at the champ.


American secret service is known for their terrible and unprofessional behaviour.
The night prior to the JFK murder they were partying in a stripclub and came back to their hotel very late and very drunk.

During presidential visits to The Netherlands and to Colombia they were also partying, doing lots of alcohol, and inviting hookers:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-17747793

Amsterdam:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/26/obama-secret-agents-send-home-drunk-amsterdam-hotel

US secret Service "protection" has been a mess for decades.








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Re: Trump Assassination attempt
« Reply #130 on: July 14, 2024, 04:21:25 AM »

American secret service is known for their terrible and unprofessional behaviour.
The night prior to the JFK murder they were partying in a stripclub and came back to their hotel very late and very drunk.

During presidential visits to The Netherlands and to Colombia they were also partying, doing lots of alcohol, and inviting hookers:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-17747793

Amsterdam:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/26/obama-secret-agents-send-home-drunk-amsterdam-hotel

US secret Service "protection" has been a mess for decades.


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Re: Trump Assassination attempt
« Reply #131 on: July 14, 2024, 04:23:07 AM »
Reagan level landslide incoming. Not kidding.




If it happened a week before the election, yes. But there still are four months to go. An eternity in politics, anything can happen.

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Re: Trump Assassination Attempt - 07-13-24
« Reply #132 on: July 14, 2024, 04:29:40 AM »
Bitcoin jumped just after..

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Re: Trump Assassination attempt
« Reply #133 on: July 14, 2024, 04:36:07 AM »

Biden campaign pulling ads in wake of Trump rally shooting

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-campaign-pulling-ads-wake-trump-rally-shooting

One wonders what's in those ads that Joe Biden now doesn't want us to see.

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Re: Trump Assassination Attempt - 07-13-24
« Reply #134 on: July 14, 2024, 04:40:13 AM »
If Trump had said this, and today this had happened (to Biden), he would have been on trial for inciting an attempt on the life of the President.

Absolutely no doubt.

The initial response from CNN and the other fake news spewers should be a final nail in their coffins.

Just so far beyond the pale.

Mr. Trump is a man, and as a man, he is flawed, but he loves his country and all it’s given him, and he is a resilient fighter the likes of whom we very rarely witness in a lifetime.

Fortress loves the man.

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Re: Trump Assassination Attempt - 07-13-24
« Reply #135 on: July 14, 2024, 04:41:02 AM »
Biggest issue I see here is how did this happen, how does someone get 5 shots off that close to a president, the answer,it was allowed to happen,? Im not saying this was a Biden hit and im not ruling out complete complacency of the security services, but what happened today should never happen in 2024. I did note the amount of useless women in the SS protection today, some overweight is this the type of protection diversity targets will deliver.

But that was a monumental failure of government lucky the shooter was some left wing idiot who couldn't shoot.

I think people simply over-estimate secret service's competence because of movies/books/tv shows.

They are human and they definitly can shit the bed.

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Re: Trump Assassination Attempt - 07-13-24
« Reply #136 on: July 14, 2024, 04:47:45 AM »
Biggest issue I see here is how did this happen, how does someone get 5 shots off that close to a president, the answer,it was allowed to happen,? Im not saying this was a Biden hit and im not ruling out complete complacency of the security services, but what happened today should never happen in 2024. I did note the amount of useless women in the SS protection today, some overweight is this the type of protection diversity targets will deliver.

But that was a monumental failure of government lucky the shooter was some left wing idiot who couldn't shoot.

I saw that also. When you see the President’s SUV pull away all you see are these butch looking females who have no clue. Ridiculous.

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Re: Trump Assassination Attempt - 07-13-24
« Reply #137 on: July 14, 2024, 04:49:07 AM »
Next time getbiggers will have to protect kosher Donald.
The shooter has helped to make Dr.ump a legend... "lefties" won't recover.
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Re: Trump Assassination attempt
« Reply #138 on: July 14, 2024, 04:55:46 AM »
Butler, PA? Anyone see funk post lately?
   
                   This is truly terrible, I have a good alibi I was at an Asia concert at wind creek casino at the time thousands of witnesses saw me.
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Re: Trump Assassination Attempt - 07-13-24
« Reply #139 on: July 14, 2024, 05:00:12 AM »
Why/how did these sharp shooters allow this?



"The gunman was posted on the roof of a manufacturing plant more than 130 yards away from the stage. The unidentified shooter was quickly killed by Secret Service snipers, but not before he nicked the president, killed a rally-goer and seriously injured another."

Watch video:

https://nypost.com/2024/07/13/us-news/trumps-secret-service-detail-is-just-a-fraction-of-that-of-sitting-presidents-sources/

Yeah I saw that too - it looks to this completely untrained eye that they already had him in their sights or whatever when he fired - like they were waiting for the go signal or something.  It's not like they swung wildly around looking for him - they appeared to be on him already...

Would seeing the rifle be enough for them to open fire, in a legal sense..?  Anyone?
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Re: Trump Assassination attempt
« Reply #140 on: July 14, 2024, 05:10:20 AM »

If it happened a week before the election, yes. But there still are four months to go. An eternity in politics, anything can happen.


I agree with you here. Peaked too early and spilled over.

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Re: Trump Assassination Attempt - 07-13-24
« Reply #141 on: July 14, 2024, 05:21:28 AM »
Having a bullet graze his face fired from 200 metres away.

''All staged.''

Brian is a crack shot at 300 yards and only had his gun out yesterday?

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Re: Trump Assassination attempt
« Reply #142 on: July 14, 2024, 05:43:58 AM »

That's not true....cut that out.  White House doesn't control the Secret Service.  Its part of the judicial branch

Stunningly stupid statement, and made with such confidence and poise. Truly this was a bravura performance, Vince. ::)

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Re: Trump Assassination Attempt - 07-13-24
« Reply #143 on: July 14, 2024, 05:43:59 AM »
Yeah I saw that too - it looks to this completely untrained eye that they already had him in their sights or whatever when he fired - like they were waiting for the go signal or something.  It's not like they swung wildly around looking for him - they appeared to be on him already...

Would seeing the rifle be enough for them to open fire, in a legal sense..?  Anyone?

Absolutely yes.

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Re: Trump Assassination attempt
« Reply #144 on: July 14, 2024, 05:59:20 AM »
Stunningly stupid statement, and made with such confidence and poise. Truly this was a bravura performance, Vince. ::)
Yep. Secret Service  reports to Homeland security and Director Mayorkas reports directly to Biden  .

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Re: Trump Assassination attempt
« Reply #145 on: July 14, 2024, 06:00:14 AM »
It wasn’t “troops” it was Marines! Just fckn with you - we jar heads get sensitive about that kind of shit.
Although as much as it pains me to admit it - that pic was staged. The marines took quite a few “takes” to get it right. I heard that about 30 years ago directly from a devil dog who was there.

what the fuck was Hankins' dog doing there?

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Re: Trump Assassination Attempt - 07-13-24
« Reply #146 on: July 14, 2024, 06:03:15 AM »
Guys, stop with the "it was staged" crap.  It wasn't.  I mean really.  Can you imagine the meeting where that was discussed?

Yeah, so the guy is going to be 140 yards away..

on a rooftop?

Yeah on a rooftop..

in the sun?

Yeah, in the sun...

wouldn't he be like really hot?

Maybe, I don't know...

and what if the sun was in his eyes

It won't be..

but it could be

Anyway, so he will be there 140 yards away, in the sun, on a hot roof, and get this....   he is just going to graze the President's ear.

:o

Yeah, just a small flesh wound. 



Now picture the scene when they explained to Trump that they wanted him to stand (sort of) still so this ace marksman can tag his ear during his speech. 

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Re: Trump Assassination Attempt - 07-13-24
« Reply #147 on: July 14, 2024, 06:05:52 AM »
Yeah I saw that too - it looks to this completely untrained eye that they already had him in their sights or whatever when he fired - like they were waiting for the go signal or something.  It's not like they swung wildly around looking for him - they appeared to be on him already...

Would seeing the rifle be enough for them to open fire, in a legal sense..?  Anyone?


Not those guys fault. They were on target waiting for the okay to shoot for sure. Green light was way late. Possibly on purpose.


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Re: Trump Assassination Attempt - 07-13-24
« Reply #148 on: July 14, 2024, 06:08:10 AM »
Absolutely yes.

No. Not entirely.  All are reviewed on a case by case basis. All deadly force (in fact ANY force used by ANY law enforcement has to AT MINIMUM meet the Graham standard) each use of force has to be objectively reasonable under the totality of the circumstances. Even executive protection must meet this standard.  I would say probably 99/100 just seeing the rifle would be enough to use deadly force.

But 'totality of the circumstances' means context matters.  A they/them with a high powered rifle w/scope, heading up a fire escape to a rooftop would probably meet the Graham standard.

An antique gun collectormoving a muzzle loader from his store to the trunk of his car would require some explaining- for example.

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Re: Trump Assassination Attempt - 07-13-24
« Reply #149 on: July 14, 2024, 06:13:10 AM »
 
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