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Will your STATIN medicine give you DEMENTIA?
« on: August 08, 2024, 06:09:31 AM »

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Re: Will your STATIN medicine give you DEMENTIA?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2024, 06:11:10 AM »
cholesterol helps form memories so yes, highly likely

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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2024, 06:14:45 AM »
cholesterol helps form memories so yes, highly likely

Given that....

If someone has a total cholesterol of say, 200, and does not take statins, and someone else had a total cholesterol of 350 but got it to 200 taking statins, why would they be any different.

Or did person B just lose the capacity for extra memories?
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2024, 06:18:39 AM »
Given that....

If someone has a total cholesterol of say, 200, and does not take statins, and someone else had a total cholesterol of 350 but got it to 200 taking statins, why would they be any different.

Or did person B just lose the capacity for extra memories?
problem is people take statins for years without getting their levels checked and end up with super low levels of cholesterol

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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2024, 06:25:42 AM »


Do you take Statins yourself or have you ever taken them, if so how many mg per day ?

This subject has been beaten to death on here.
Basically if you have had a heart attack then i would advise Statins. Experts on here who think they know have never had the experience of nearly passing in an OP theater whilst still awake.

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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2024, 06:35:09 AM »
problem is people take statins for years without getting their levels checked and end up with super low levels of cholesterol

Then they have a bad Cardiologist, i am lucky as i have a very good one.
I get my blood checked once a month.
I was also informed they need to keep an eye on my red blood cells.
It is what it is..

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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2024, 06:36:15 AM »
problem is people take statins for years without getting their levels checked and end up with super low levels of cholesterol

Is that really a thing?

Maybe it is, but most folks get a physical at least once a year and get bloodwork.
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2024, 06:43:39 AM »
Is that really a thing?

Maybe it is, but most folks get a physical at least once a year and get bloodwork.
when they put people on Statins in the UK they tell them its for life
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/statins/
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You usually have to continue taking statins for life because if you stop taking them, your cholesterol will return to a high level.

Doctors never tell you to try diet first

Also the trials to set the levels of cholesterol that triggered a prescription for Statins was funded by the pharma companies who make statins

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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2024, 06:44:32 AM »
Do you take Statins yourself or have you ever taken them, if so how many mg per day ?

This subject has been beaten to death on here.
Basically if you have had a heart attack then i would advise Statins. Experts on here who think they know have never had the experience of nearly passing in an OP theater whilst still awake.


No, I've never taken statins.

Statins won't prevent a heart attack.

Do some research.


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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2024, 06:49:34 AM »
when they put people on Statins in the UK they tell them its for life
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/statins/
Doctors never tell you to try diet first

Also the trials to set the levels of cholesterol that triggered a prescription for Statins was funded by the pharma companies who make statins

That's not what I'm saying - most people get bloodwork to determine there levels regularly - meaning, too low of levels would get notice.

Totally agree on the diet/exercise comment.
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2024, 06:55:50 AM »
when they put people on Statins in the UK they tell them its for life
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/statins/
Doctors never tell you to try diet first

Also the trials to set the levels of cholesterol that triggered a prescription for Statins was funded by the pharma companies who make statins

Itīs not just about diet.  Other factors are involved.

No, I've never taken statins.

Statins won't prevent a heart attack.

Do some research.


so you donīt really know.
as far as research goes i have had the real life experience and spoken to top Cardiologists.

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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2024, 06:56:40 AM »
That's not what I'm saying - most people get bloodwork to determine there levels regularly - meaning, too low of levels would get notice.

Totally agree on the diet/exercise comment.

I got prescribed statins a few years ago, I took them for a couple weeks and started getting aching muscles and pain in my shoulders so I stopped taking them
Months later at the doctors she asked me why I hadnt asked for another script.
I told her they caused me discomfort and pain , she said "Oh right, it doesnt matter"

I asked her why she gave me them in the first place if it didnt matter, she just said "you triggered the script markers"

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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2024, 06:58:48 AM »
Itīs not just about diet.  Other factors are involved.



You dont have high cholesterol because you dont have enough statins in your bloodstream

Same way when you have a head ache its not because its a lack of Paracetamol.

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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2024, 07:04:45 AM »
I got prescribed statins a few years ago, I took them for a couple weeks and started getting aching muscles and pain in my shoulders so I stopped taking them
Months later at the doctors she asked me why I hadnt asked for another script.
I told her they caused me discomfort and pain , she said "Oh right, it doesnt matter"

I asked her why she gave me them in the first place if it didnt matter, she just said "you triggered the script markers"

two weeks ?  cīmon man you need to take them longer than that to notice any changes you mentioned which some people do complain about this is true.

to notice anything like side affects you need to take them at least three months if not six.

I take a 40mg tab every second day, first of all i was taking 40mg daily.
This goes back to what i wrote before about having a good Cardiologist who monitors your blood work
The trick is to have the protection but with the minimum

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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2024, 07:16:03 AM »
You dont have high cholesterol because you dont have enough statins in your bloodstream

Same way when you have a head ache its not because its a lack of Paracetamol.

Statins are a protection against further build ups of Cholesterol also in conjunction with other medicines such as AS100 to prevent a clot in a Heart stent in the future so it is a medicine for life, some Heart stents such as mine gave off a healing medicine in bursts over the first three months.

Medicine such as Prasillt 10mg is taken for the first year.

If you think high Cholestertol is just a fatty diet then you are living in a bubble.
I was asked if i smoked because they thought this was a possible cause, i do not smoke.

I doubt very much you are a Cardiologist

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« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2024, 07:36:43 AM »
Statins are a protection against further build ups of Cholesterol also in conjunction with other medicines such as AS100 to prevent a clot in a Heart stent in the future so it is a medicine for life, some Heart stents such as mine gave off a healing medicine in bursts over the first three months.

Medicine such as Prasillt 10mg is taken for the first year.

If you think high Cholestertol is just a fatty diet then you are living in a bubble.
I was asked if i smoked because they thought this was a possible cause, i do not smoke.

I doubt very much you are a Cardiologist
Im not Isacc Newton but I know if I jump off a building Im at least going to hurt myself..

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« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2024, 07:42:36 AM »
Im not Isacc Newton but I know if I jump off a building Im at least going to hurt myself..

do not confuse wisdom with idiocy

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Re: Will your STATIN medicine give you DEMENTIA?
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2024, 07:43:44 AM »

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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2024, 07:45:07 AM »
do not confuse wisdom with idiocy
Having letters after your name doesnt always make you right, thats an argument from authority

You either have a valid argument/point or you dont

Doctor gave me statins, they made me ill, I told her and she didnt give me any more
Was she more right giving them to me or was I more right not taking them?

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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2024, 07:47:37 AM »
Statins are one of the biggest scams of big pharma

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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2024, 07:48:20 AM »
Donny,
You've had a huge scare with your heart attacks so anything the doctors tell you to do you will do.
You will be afraid to do otherwise.
Fear made people get the Covid vax.
Completely understandable.

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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2024, 07:57:26 AM »
Donny,
You've had a huge scare with your heart attacks so anything the doctors tell you to do you will do.
You will be afraid to do otherwise.
Fear made people get the Covid vax.
Completely understandable.

again you do not really know same as the other Guy who took them for two weeks  ;D

I will not engage in a heated discussion with persons of no understanding other that their "theories" or youtube.

By the way i never took the Covid shot but maybe you are confusing me with another person or persons on here.

It can also be that that you are trying in vain to prove your point, what ever that may be. 
In any case have a nice Day or evening as the case may be.

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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2024, 07:59:41 AM »
Donny,
You've had a huge scare with your heart attacks so anything the doctors tell you to do you will do.
You will be afraid to do otherwise.
Fear made people get the Covid vax.
Completely understandable.

Most cardiologists know dick about fvck when it comes to statins. They get regular visits by pharma reps and then prescribe  the ones they get the most personal benefit from. Most doctors are nothing but legal drug dealers.

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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2024, 08:07:12 AM »
Most cardiologists know dick about fvck when it comes to statins. They get regular visits by pharma reps and then prescribe  the ones they get the most personal benefit from. Most doctors are nothing but legal drug dealers.

Maybe in the USA but not here, sure in the USA Doctors gave out Legal Steroids to many a famous Bodybuilder but let us not confuse real Medical care with what you are implying.

We all know the Pharma industry is a massive business but not every Cardiologist is a corrupt asshole

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« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2024, 08:10:00 AM »
Maybe in the USA but not here, sure in the USA Doctors gave out Legal Steroids to many a famous Bodybuilder but let us not confuse real Medical care with what you are implying.

We all know the Pharma industry is a massive business but not every Cardiologist is a corrupt asshole

Maybe not but you can be certain they are not your friend