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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17975 on: December 26, 2006, 07:07:09 PM »
wow, really? No brilliant deduction there Sherlock! There is a big difference between zooming in and physically altering the properties of the pic by stretching it.

True. Enlarging a pic might lose some quality. It is just adjusting the size. I've looked at hulksters pics all week with originals and all he did was resize it.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17976 on: December 26, 2006, 07:09:03 PM »
True. Enlarging a pic might lose some quality. It is just adjusting the size. I've looked at hulksters pics all week with originals and all he did was resize it.

exactly.

IceCold thinks that because Ronnie is better that the pics must have been altered.. ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17977 on: December 26, 2006, 07:11:11 PM »

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17978 on: December 26, 2006, 07:15:16 PM »
Here is the picture pumpster always posts and how ironically it doesn't match the original I scanned , much different quality  ;)

Different quality, but sorry to say it still can't hide what's left of his left bicep.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17979 on: December 26, 2006, 07:17:57 PM »
More of Hulkster's handy work

Actually by making that pic smaller and blurry, it is at a disadvantage to Coleman. Why would he do that?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17980 on: December 26, 2006, 07:22:20 PM »
IceCold and ND are really being pathetic with all this "its enhanced its altered" bullshit.

why not just admit what everyone can see?- that Ronnie by virtue of his superior shape, detail and vascularity is better?

and besides, I just posted some links that someone posted from the 99 dvd and it is clear that the screencaps look identical to the video.

so Icecold's bullshit claims have been disproven yet again...
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17981 on: December 26, 2006, 07:25:24 PM »

yates still wins.

for all that shit hulkster said about dorian's legs - look at ronnie's.

hulkster also claimed yates chest sucked while in the comparison he is matching coleman striation for stiation.

coleman has a nice film of water with evidence in his legs have zero cuts.

ronnie's delts have more definition, but yates' are bigger. 



Yates delts look bigger because that pic was taken more of an angle than the Coleman pic. More of Yates traps, delts and his back is actually showing. Coleman's pic is taken from  a different angle showing more of his front.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17982 on: December 26, 2006, 07:25:46 PM »
Hulkster's handy work a suspect picture ontop to begin with !

how is the top picture suspect to begin with?

 ::)

here is the link moron:

http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/forums/bodybuilding-pictures/969-mr-olympia.html

you have to be logged in to see the attached pics.

just because dorian looked like a sow in 1994 when standing relaxed does NOT mean it is 'suspect'

seriously.

these guys have reached new lows today... :-\
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17983 on: December 26, 2006, 07:26:57 PM »
there is a most muscular shot that hulkster played with.

i think it was from 98.

coleman is wearing dark blue trunks.

i will find and post later, but its around the 700 page mark.

ND or sucky already called him out on it. 

post it.

go ahead.

I don't even know how to photoshop a pic.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17984 on: December 26, 2006, 07:28:15 PM »
Hey Neo isn't this another one of your quality comparisons?  ::)

Coleman looks pretty dry in that pic but I agree that a better Yates pic could of been used.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17985 on: December 26, 2006, 07:34:12 PM »


IceCold thinks that because Ronnie is better that the pics must have been altered.. ::)


yeah, this pic of ronnie isnt enhanced.

 ::)





i never said that the pics had to be enhanced for you to think coleman to be better.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17986 on: December 26, 2006, 07:36:29 PM »
post it.

go ahead.

I don't even know how to photoshop a pic.

 ::)





right here buddy.

its from jan 99 issue of flex.

you also edited levrone out, bc he dwrafed coleman in that pose. 

funny how you claim things and are proved wrong virtually every time. 
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17987 on: December 26, 2006, 07:38:09 PM »
IceCold and ND are really being pathetic with all this "its enhanced its altered" bullshit.

why not just admit what everyone can see?- that Ronnie by virtue of his superior shape, detail and vascularity is better?

so Icecold's bullshit claims have been disproven yet again...


coleman had superiour shape, detail, and vascularity throught dorian's career and where did that get him????

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17988 on: December 26, 2006, 07:41:34 PM »




right here buddy.

its from jan 99 issue of flex.

you also edited levrone out, bc he dwrafed coleman in that pose. 

funny how you claim things and are proved wrong virtually every time. 

I didn't edit out levrone you MORON:

here is where I took the pic from and enlarged it:

http://www.ifbb.com/contestresults/mrolympia/coleman/98coleman.html

notice the quality and detail is the EXACT SAME as it is on the WEBPAGE...

God you are PATHETIC ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17989 on: December 26, 2006, 07:44:08 PM »

coleman had superiour shape, detail, and vascularity throught dorian's career and where did that get him????

 ;D

no he didn't - thats the point.

Ronnie in 95/6 and even 7 was not nearly as good as he was in 98/9.

why?

better fullness
more size
more detail
better condition

and

most importantly:

not being overlooked by the judges.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17990 on: December 26, 2006, 07:47:15 PM »
no he didn't - thats the point.

Ronnie in 95/6 and even 7 was not nearly as good as he was in 98/9.

why?

better fullness
more size
more detail
better condition

and

most importantly:

not being overlooked by the judges.

of course coleman was better after yates retired in 98.

i dont think he was overlooked by the judges.

he already won a show, and every other show, he was in the top 5.

he had better condition, but the size was the same.

coleman weighed 257 in 97 and over 250 in 96. 
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17991 on: December 26, 2006, 07:48:43 PM »
use this version of that most muscular comparison. I resized it to fit 550 width so that it doesn't look fuzzy.



It might look fuzzy because you when we post large pics it makes it small causing it to look fuzzy, but when you click on it to open it to it's full size. it looks clear.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17992 on: December 26, 2006, 08:57:50 PM »
It might look fuzzy because you when we post large pics it makes it small causing it to look fuzzy, but when you click on it to open it to it's full size. it looks clear.

believe me, I know. I made that comparison. It looks clear when you save it and view it. However, I posted the resized version of it b/c I've noticed several people using the larger version. Large images tend to look fuzzy when automatically resized by getbig. The smaller version I posted is fitted so it won't look fuzzy.

larger version



smaller version


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17993 on: December 26, 2006, 09:00:32 PM »
yeah, this pic of ronnie isnt enhanced. ::)


here is the original. Please show me where you think I photoshoped it.



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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17994 on: December 26, 2006, 09:38:10 PM »
Personally, I think all these comparison are great, and it just goes to show you how great Coleman and Yates were at their respective bests. Anyone who thinks it would be a blowout on either side is sorely incorrect.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17995 on: December 27, 2006, 01:52:08 AM »
IceCold and ND are really being pathetic with all this "its enhanced its altered" bullshit.

why not just admit what everyone can see?- that Ronnie by virtue of his superior shape, detail and vascularity is better?

and besides, I just posted some links that someone posted from the 99 dvd and it is clear that the screencaps look identical to the video.

so Icecold's bullshit claims have been disproven yet again...


This is where you go wrong , superior shape? you make massive blanket statements , does Ronnie have superior shaped calves? glutes ? lats? forearms? traps? abdominals? Ronnie certainly has an edge in some muscle shape over Yates but don't act like he's Flex Wheeler because he's NOT and its not a matter of if Ronnie had the ' superior shape ' would that beat Dorian , Dorian never once won because he had an aesthetic physique , detail? again with a blanket statement , Ronnie does have some better detail no doubt but in some areas he doesn't Dorian has much better detail in his midsection and I mean his whole midsection , his serattus/intercostals/obliques/abdominals , better detail in his calves , more detail in lower lats , erector spinae , so again lets not make base claims without further examination , and vascularity? if this isn't the most pathetic attempt at an advantage , seriously .

Now you picked why you think Ronnie would win , now lets look at why Dorian would , this is based on the IFBB criteria , Yates has better balance & proportion , better conditioning , and density & thickness , couple that with a better ability to present his physique to its best potential and I think it would be close but Dorian meets the criteria better than Ronnie .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17996 on: December 27, 2006, 06:47:36 AM »
here is the original. Please show me where you think I photoshoped it.





i think this picture already came up in an issue.

i will look for it later.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17997 on: December 27, 2006, 09:19:44 AM »
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This is where you go wrong , superior shape? you make massive blanket statements , does Ronnie have superior shaped calves? glutes ? lats? forearms? traps? abdominals? Ronnie certainly has an edge in some muscle shape over Yates but don't act like he's Flex Wheeler because he's NOT

once again, you miss the whole point.

its not a blanket statement to make when the particular bodyparts that Ronnie has a shape advantage in are the MOST visible and MAJOR parts.

Parts like:

Arms
chest
quads
body taper.

the fact that dorian had better glute shape is not enough to trump the above.

why do you think Ronnie looks so much better in the most muscular and front relaxed pose for example?

it has a lot to do with shape:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17998 on: December 27, 2006, 09:20:42 AM »
ps Yes Ronnie DOES have superior shaped traps by a mile:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17999 on: December 27, 2006, 09:22:28 AM »
and Ronnie's delts have a much more pleasing shape and they are highly visible and highly regarded.

no one cares about glute shape.

this isn't musclebears.

this is bodybuilding.
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