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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17925 on: December 26, 2006, 03:04:17 PM »
Now here is the same comparison with Ronnie being stretch out in the same area and while the heights appear accurate the proportions are obviously not , Neo keep that in mind. !!  ;) and even with the Yates pic smaller the same still holds true , Yates is denser , dryer and thicker , better balanced and hard as nails !!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17926 on: December 26, 2006, 03:09:24 PM »
why are you winking at me in all your posts? I caught you manipulating pics of Dorian to make him appear larger, and you keep winking at me as if to suggest somehow that you got the better of me? Get real, son.

Before you make bullshit claims you better have PROOF the pic is NOT I repeat NOT Photoshopped that picture is UNTOUCHED with the exception of being resized to fit into the work area so nice try kid but better luck next time. ;)

Here is Neo biased comparison you have balls claiming I photoshopped anything  ;)

Here are both photos as they sit in the work area the Ronnie doesn't need really any fitting in the area and the Yates one does, so in the process of fitting it it came out bigger than he original was, not intentional like claimed  ;)

Now here is the same comparison with Ronnie being stretch out in the same area and while the heights appear accurate the proportions are obviously not, Neo keep that in mind.!!  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17927 on: December 26, 2006, 03:21:23 PM »
wow so much nonsese. It finally occurs to me why people stop respoding to this volumnous BS  ;D Lets try to pick this apart one by one(cant believe Im wasting my time doing this):
The flaw in your argument here is that you're giving the nod to dorian based compltely on his "superior conditioning and hardness" even though that's not all that a bodybuilder should be judged on (Captain Obvious). My choice as to who has the beter shape to his muscles is equivalent to you deciding who has the better look- the vascular, fuller ronnie versus the much drier and harder dorian.
      So, really, you have no upperhand in the argument. Now this(above) was my argument that accepted your premise that the shape of one bodybuilders msucles against another's is entirely a matter of personal preference. HOWEVER, the problem is that this is not true. Now I dont know the bodybuilding jargon and all the bullshit u guys spew, but ronnie clearly has the rounder, better shaped muscles in the most muscular shot. It has more aesthetic appeal also. Basically, your argument is losing here whichever angle u chose to attack ronnie from.
Yes, his forearms look just fine in the most muscular, and look just as good as Dorian's. You're picking at straws here.
Whatever.

You say I have NO upperhand in the argument you're dead wrong , 99 times out of 100 why does one bodybuilder loses to another with all other things considered? it all boils down to who is the better conditioned athlete , besides mass & balance , conditioning is one of the most important criteria for a bodybuilder , why did Flex lose to Ronnie in 1998? Flex beat Ronnie eight times previously , Ronnie beat Flex in 1998 because he had ripped glutes & well defined hamstrings , if Flex had those he would have beat Ronnie 1998

And you may think Ronnie has a more aesthetically pleasing most muscular which in my opinion is an oxymoron that most muscular is NOT a particularly beautiful pose for a bodybuilder its always been known as a power-shot , the mostmuscular is as the name implies to see who the most muscular and Ronnie is 257 pounds , and Dorian 255 pounds , Dorian has better muscle hardness and conditioning and Ronnie is a tad softer and not as dry , so who is more muscular? who is carrying less fat & water?  ;) not to mention who is better balanced?

Now balance & proportion are part of the judging criteria and while Dorian's forearms may seem like a straw to you it adds up as a whole , Ronnie has poor lower leg balance , poor proportion between his calves & quads , same with his forearms to his biceps/triceps , his glutes are way to overdeveloped and stick out these are not trademarks of a well balanced bodybuilder and just because you don't think its a big deal the judges are specifically looking for

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.





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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17928 on: December 26, 2006, 03:27:56 PM »
why are you winking at me in all your posts? I caught you manipulating pics of Dorian to make him appear larger, and you keep winking at me as if to suggest somehow that you got the better of me? Get real, son.


No I'm winking because you thought you had something and don't  ;) you thought I photoshopped the picture and it simply wasn't true , I went through the whole process and explained it to you and showed you with ample pics , you jumped the gun before you knew the story and you're dead wrong and you have balls accusing anyone of tampering with pics , Camp-Coleman has been doing it for ages now , pumpster , Hulkster and you so just when you thought you had something you came up short ! look at this pic lol Ronnie's calves are bigger than Dorian's quads  ::) Ronnie's biceps/triceps look to be 26 inches compared to Dorians  ::) if anything my comparison proved that even if you have heights scales correctly the proportions can be off , just take a look at yours  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17929 on: December 26, 2006, 03:30:47 PM »
Here is the picture pumpster always posts and how ironically it doesn't match the original I scanned , much different quality  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17930 on: December 26, 2006, 03:32:03 PM »
Fancy words and long posts doesn't change the fact that:

RONNIE > DORIAN. ;D

Okay fancy words to much for you? lets simplify this for you the simple people


Dorian beat Ronnie 8 times

Ronnie beat Dorian 0 times  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17931 on: December 26, 2006, 03:33:23 PM »
Hulkster's handy work a suspect picture ontop to begin with !

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17932 on: December 26, 2006, 03:35:20 PM »
More of Hulkster's handy work

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17933 on: December 26, 2006, 03:37:05 PM »
Nice try. Keep living in your fantasy world. Ronnie in 99 beats every version of Dorian. I don't really care but I am fascinated by your little discussion and sometimes find it quite amusing. Keep em coming tiger. ;)


Sure he does  ;) if that was the case this thread wouldn't have been this long

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17934 on: December 26, 2006, 03:38:18 PM »
Moe pics of Ronnie getting severely owned

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17935 on: December 26, 2006, 04:17:18 PM »
here is a better version of that most muscular comparison you posted.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17936 on: December 26, 2006, 04:20:00 PM »
here is a better version of that most muscular comparison you posted.




yates still wins.

for all that shit hulkster said about dorian's legs - look at ronnie's.

hulkster also claimed yates chest sucked while in the comparison he is matching coleman striation for stiation.

coleman has a nice film of water with evidence in his legs have zero cuts.

ronnie's delts have more definition, but yates' are bigger. 

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17937 on: December 26, 2006, 04:22:37 PM »
Hey Neo isn't this another one of your quality comparisons?  ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17938 on: December 26, 2006, 04:23:21 PM »
More of Hulkster's handy work

again, where is the photoshop? All I see is a magnified image.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17939 on: December 26, 2006, 04:23:52 PM »
here is a better version of that most muscular comparison you posted.



Thank you and my point still stands ! Yates is clearly thicker , dryer and better balanced.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17940 on: December 26, 2006, 04:25:43 PM »
again, where is the photoshop? All I see is a magnified image.

Okay its NOT photoshoped but its deliberately tampered with to reduce the quality , in my comparison it wasn't deliberate it was just a sizing issue , and again it would make no sense for me to do it deliberately when I posted the original dozens of times .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17941 on: December 26, 2006, 04:26:25 PM »
Hey Neo isn't this another one of your quality comparisons?

I went back and fixed it.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17942 on: December 26, 2006, 04:27:15 PM »
I went back and fixed it.



Do you really think a 257 pound Dorian has a smaller waist than a 249 pound Ronnie?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17943 on: December 26, 2006, 04:29:26 PM »
in my comparison it wasn't deliberate it was just a sizing issue , and again it would make no sense for me to do it deliberately when I posted the original dozens of times.

Then why did you post it? It makes no sense. Either you are stupid and didn't realize Dorian looked stretched before you posted the pic, or you noticed it but still posted it anyway. You could have worked on it more until it came out right. I usually make 3-4 different version of the same comparison and pick the most accurate one before I post it.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17944 on: December 26, 2006, 04:34:27 PM »
Do you really think a 257 pound Dorian has a smaller waist than a 249 pound Ronnie?

first of all, Dorian is slightly turned to the side while Ronnie is straight on. So you can't fully see how wide Dorian's waist is. Second, both pics are taken from different angles. The comparison was really meant to compare their backs. I tried to make it as accurate as possible by aligning their hips and knees, and making Ronnie shorter. In the end, I think I came pretty close given what I had to start with.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17945 on: December 26, 2006, 04:37:39 PM »
Then why did you post it? It makes no sense. Either you are stupid and didn't realize Dorian looked stretched before you posted the pic, or you noticed it but still posted it anyway. You could have worked on it more until it came out right. I usually make 3-4 different version of the same comparison and pick the most accurate one before I post it.

That was the second one I made I just figured this out apparently and it looked okay to me I couldn't look at the original while I had the program open for reference , and I didn't realize it until you pointed it out .

This is the first one I made.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17946 on: December 26, 2006, 04:38:35 PM »
yates still wins.

for all that shit hulkster said about dorian's legs - look at ronnie's.

hulkster also claimed yates chest sucked while in the comparison he is matching coleman striation for stiation.

coleman has a nice film of water with evidence in his legs have zero cuts.

ronnie's delts have more definition, but yates' are bigger.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17947 on: December 26, 2006, 04:52:45 PM »
Thank you and my point still stands ! Yates is clearly thicker , dryer and better balanced.

how do you figure? Ronnie's chest looks thicker (especially the upper pecs) and has deeper striations. His delts are separated while Dorian's look like slabs of marble that are waiting to be carved. His arms blow Dorian's away. Ronnie also has better quads in this pose. They are larger and have more sweep. His tear drops are noticably bigger. The only things Dorian really has over Ronnie in this pose is traps and calves.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17948 on: December 26, 2006, 05:12:07 PM »
how do you figure? Ronnie's chest looks thicker (especially the upper pecs) and has deeper striations. His delts are separated while Dorian's look like slabs of marble that are waiting to be carved. His arms blow Dorian's away. Ronnie also has better quads in this pose. They are larger and have more sweep. His tear drops are noticably bigger. The only things Dorian really has over Ronnie in this pose is traps and calves.

I wholeheartedly disagree about the chest I think its clearly evident that Yates a much thicker chest , Ronnie's may have more volume but it looks puffy in comparison , Ronnie does have better delt/pec tie-ins and his separation in the delts isn't being washed out by harsh lighting , look at Dorian's traps the skin looks shrink wrapped around the muscle and Ronnie's in comparison looks soft , Ronnie's biceps bow Dorian's out of the water but Yates is holding up rather well in the triceps in terms of size and separation , Dorian's forearms look better separated but in fairness to Ronnie his have more shadows so its likely a push , midsections can't be seen , quads in this particular comparison Dorian's tear drops actually look better than Ronnies much more clearly defined especially the right one and the left was torn but still shows good development and you can make out Dorian's satorius muscle and Ronnie you can , perhaps Ronnie isn't fully flexed yet but overall Dorian is simply dryer , just as big and better balanced.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #17949 on: December 26, 2006, 05:32:03 PM »
Yates won the fight before this thread even started.