I love that this is still going. The uneducated comments from the Ronnie guys are hilarious. Dorian has no thigh cuts? WTF? His legs are balanced, Ronnies are huge as he has those overdeveloped adductors with no detail. Does Ronnie even have a sartorius muscle? He lacks finer detail in the upper leg with some quad separation but not much else. His legs are akin to two huge shapeless melons from the front. Good from back and side, no questioning that.
Hulkster - who says thighs have to be locked rigid in the abs and thigh shot? How long have you been invloved in bodybuilding? Not long no doubt - as you totally miss the finer points of physique assessment. I bet you have never even considered such things as the length of Ronnies arems which are too long for his torso - a front lat spread will show you that. Dorian shows his legs to the best advantage like a true champ and brings out all the detail in the upper leg.
Dorian destroys Ronnie in the abs and thigs (as he did on those 8 occasions they competed against each other) - look at the detail from top to bottom, the pec line, the serratus, ab structure, sartorius, calves, sharply define lats. Does Ronnie even have a full rectus abdomen? or did some fail to form when his torso stopped short?
I also saw some idiot write that Ronnie has good lines. LMAO - what planet are you on? Bob Paris had lines, Steve Reeves, Lee Haney, Lee Labrada. As I have said before, Ronnie's too bunched up, too short a torso. An ensemble of big muscle groups just slapped together. He started to lose any "lines" he had post 96. He started to get too big for his frame and now wins purely on mass and nothing else. He ruined his physique. I doubt he will make it past 50.
oh where oh where do I begin.
First of all, show me ONE shot of Dorian that matches this in terms of thigh cuts:
and I will see what you are saying.
Or, I'll make it easier for you: since you complain that everyone in this thread bases their opinions on pics, I challenge you to find a video of Dorian that shows anywhere NEAR the front quad cuts that Ronnie displayed in the video from the 99 Olympia posted earlier in the thread.
Dorian did not have "no" thigh cuts, but they were certainly far inferior to a 250 pound Ronnie.
Secondly, I have been following bodybuilding since 1988. How long for you? Do you have a wheelchair yet?
Third,
extending the thigh in the ab and thigh is the best way to show off the muscle, and it is the traditional way to hit the pose. Not showing the quad from the front is hiding something. Dorian put his quad on angle and flexed his calf.
as you can see, he show his INNER thigh, not the outer one. Even Dorian knew that his quads sucked.
Fourth,
why is it that you do not acknowledge that dorian had a poor taper when compared to ronnie? This is why most of the ronnie-fans on this thread think that ronnie would have a great advantage right from the start. Dorian was blocky:
Ronnie looked fantastic:
Having a great taper is part of having great lines. Dorian would have likely lost the symmetry round to Ronnie, since anyone can see that Ronnie looked far better (pre-gut) standing relaxed than Dorian did.
Ronnie would have easily won the relaxed round, no problem. He looks better from all angles standing relaxed than dorian did.
