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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29325 on: June 02, 2007, 10:09:07 AM »
STFU neo-indian

I'm light skin, have green eyes and red facial hair, yet I'm Mexican and Native American according to Pubes. ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29326 on: June 02, 2007, 10:10:11 AM »
dorian voted by over 17% of having the best back of all time.

dated well over 98-99, and even 2001.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/pro-bodybuilders-pictures/best-back-all-time-you-decide-39990.html

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just as you can post 1 fucking polll, so can i. 

Oh boy, here we go again. That poll was in 2001. Ronnies 03 back didn't appear until 2 years later, LOL. So much for your poll.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29327 on: June 02, 2007, 10:19:00 AM »
Getbig Interview with Shawn Ray April 6, 2005

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ray050406.html

"What was your worst moment in bodybuilding?

The worst moment was in 1994, when I lost the Mr. Olympia contest. That was even harder to deal with than failing the drug test at the Arnold Classic in 1990 because I won that show. I felt like a winner there, everybody who saw it felt that. At the Mr. Olympia contest, in 1992 I was 4th, in 1993 I was 3rd. In 1994, to wind up second in a contest that I felt I had won, when Dorian had torn his bicep, came in with a bloated stomach, his color was off, and it was clear he was visibly not at his best from 1993. A lot of people came to my room, and told me I looked the best, that I was going to win. The photographers were setting up photo shoot for me. Joe Weider gave me his blessing - he thought that I nailed it. Everybody who knew me knew that I had nailed this show. I used the routine that I turned pro with in 1987, and I nailed that too. I felt that this was going to be the night.
And when they announced Dorian in first, I felt that at that point and time, there was nothing that I could have changed, nothing I would have done differently, and nothing more that I could do. This was the best that I had with my physique, and I was dazed and confused because I didn't know what else I could do with my body? I didn't want to change anything - I was happy. And when I placed second, it was the worst thing. I would have been happier if I had placed 6th or 7th. One person stopped me from my destiny. One person away from realizing a dream since I had in high school. I was 10 years removed from high school, it was two weeks after my 10 years reunion, and when that happened, it took a lot out of me. I retired that night.


Did you ever analyze the 1994 Mr. Olympia scorecard?

I never looked at the scorecard, I never asked a judge what I could have done better, I never asked why. I knew I should have won just by looking in the mirror. Flex Wheeler had come to my house a week before, and remember that Flex was 2nd at the Olympia a year before that (in 1993, Flex was in a car wreck). He came over, and he said that he had never seen anything that looked like that in person. It is very hard to impress somebody like Flex. Flex rarely gives compliments that I acknowledged to that degree. Afterwards, I had many people come to tell me the same thing. I studied the video, looked at pictures. I found a few things wrong with Dorian and nothing with myself then. After about two weeks, I found peace, because I felt there was nothing I could do to prevent that loss. The judges had it in their mind and it was reaffirmed in 1997 when Dorian tore his triceps, and the judges were verbally telling the athletes before the show that they were going to be marking down for distended stomachs, yet they allowed him to win his 6th Olympia and retire."


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29328 on: June 02, 2007, 11:02:25 AM »
Some 99' BGP Pics

More pics please.. :o

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29329 on: June 02, 2007, 11:31:11 AM »
Getbig Interview with Shawn Ray April 6, 2005

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ray050406.html

"What was your worst moment in bodybuilding?

The worst moment was in 1994, when I lost the Mr. Olympia contest. That was even harder to deal with than failing the drug test at the Arnold Classic in 1990 because I won that show. I felt like a winner there, everybody who saw it felt that. At the Mr. Olympia contest, in 1992 I was 4th, in 1993 I was 3rd. In 1994, to wind up second in a contest that I felt I had won, when Dorian had torn his bicep, came in with a bloated stomach, his color was off, and it was clear he was visibly not at his best from 1993. A lot of people came to my room, and told me I looked the best, that I was going to win. The photographers were setting up photo shoot for me. Joe Weider gave me his blessing - he thought that I nailed it. Everybody who knew me knew that I had nailed this show. I used the routine that I turned pro with in 1987, and I nailed that too. I felt that this was going to be the night.
And when they announced Dorian in first, I felt that at that point and time, there was nothing that I could have changed, nothing I would have done differently, and nothing more that I could do. This was the best that I had with my physique, and I was dazed and confused because I didn't know what else I could do with my body? I didn't want to change anything - I was happy. And when I placed second, it was the worst thing. I would have been happier if I had placed 6th or 7th. One person stopped me from my destiny. One person away from realizing a dream since I had in high school. I was 10 years removed from high school, it was two weeks after my 10 years reunion, and when that happened, it took a lot out of me. I retired that night.


Did you ever analyze the 1994 Mr. Olympia scorecard?

I never looked at the scorecard, I never asked a judge what I could have done better, I never asked why. I knew I should have won just by looking in the mirror. Flex Wheeler had come to my house a week before, and remember that Flex was 2nd at the Olympia a year before that (in 1993, Flex was in a car wreck). He came over, and he said that he had never seen anything that looked like that in person. It is very hard to impress somebody like Flex. Flex rarely gives compliments that I acknowledged to that degree. Afterwards, I had many people come to tell me the same thing. I studied the video, looked at pictures. I found a few things wrong with Dorian and nothing with myself then. After about two weeks, I found peace, because I felt there was nothing I could do to prevent that loss. The judges had it in their mind and it was reaffirmed in 1997 when Dorian tore his triceps, and the judges were verbally telling the athletes before the show that they were going to be marking down for distended stomachs, yet they allowed him to win his 6th Olympia and retire."



and yet the dorian nuthuggers still insist that Shawn agreed with his placement...

they are too stupid to realize what we all have been saying: in the 90's bb environment, speaking out against Uncle Joe was career suicide..they had no choice but to look happy..

once they are out from under the IFBB, then the truth comes out..

why is it that the dorian nuthuggers could not understand this simple concept before?

surely it was obvious to anyone with half a brain.

now that it has been validated, I am sure they will make up some excuse.. ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29330 on: June 02, 2007, 11:33:08 AM »
look at Ronnie's lat spread:

only a moron would even suggest that dorian with his superwide waist could come close to this:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29331 on: June 02, 2007, 11:33:43 AM »
Getbig Interview with Shawn Ray April 6, 2005

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ray050406.html

"What was your worst moment in bodybuilding?

The worst moment was in 1994, when I lost the Mr. Olympia contest. That was even harder to deal with than failing the drug test at the Arnold Classic in 1990 because I won that show. I felt like a winner there, everybody who saw it felt that. At the Mr. Olympia contest, in 1992 I was 4th, in 1993 I was 3rd. In 1994, to wind up second in a contest that I felt I had won, when Dorian had torn his bicep, came in with a bloated stomach, his color was off, and it was clear he was visibly not at his best from 1993. A lot of people came to my room, and told me I looked the best, that I was going to win. The photographers were setting up photo shoot for me. Joe Weider gave me his blessing - he thought that I nailed it. Everybody who knew me knew that I had nailed this show. I used the routine that I turned pro with in 1987, and I nailed that too. I felt that this was going to be the night.
And when they announced Dorian in first, I felt that at that point and time, there was nothing that I could have changed, nothing I would have done differently, and nothing more that I could do. This was the best that I had with my physique, and I was dazed and confused because I didn't know what else I could do with my body? I didn't want to change anything - I was happy. And when I placed second, it was the worst thing. I would have been happier if I had placed 6th or 7th. One person stopped me from my destiny. One person away from realizing a dream since I had in high school. I was 10 years removed from high school, it was two weeks after my 10 years reunion, and when that happened, it took a lot out of me. I retired that night.


Did you ever analyze the 1994 Mr. Olympia scorecard?

I never looked at the scorecard, I never asked a judge what I could have done better, I never asked why. I knew I should have won just by looking in the mirror. Flex Wheeler had come to my house a week before, and remember that Flex was 2nd at the Olympia a year before that (in 1993, Flex was in a car wreck). He came over, and he said that he had never seen anything that looked like that in person. It is very hard to impress somebody like Flex. Flex rarely gives compliments that I acknowledged to that degree. Afterwards, I had many people come to tell me the same thing. I studied the video, looked at pictures. I found a few things wrong with Dorian and nothing with myself then. After about two weeks, I found peace, because I felt there was nothing I could do to prevent that loss. The judges had it in their mind and it was reaffirmed in 1997 when Dorian tore his triceps, and the judges were verbally telling the athletes before the show that they were going to be marking down for distended stomachs, yet they allowed him to win his 6th Olympia and retire."



There's no way that Shawn Ray was the true winner of the 1994 Olympia. He used to say at the end of every Olympia that he should've won. He's a small man with a big mouth. Watch the 1994 Olympia video and see how delighted Joe Weider looks when presenting Yates with his 3rd Sandow.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29332 on: June 02, 2007, 11:41:11 AM »
of course he's delighted. His staff followed his orders.

they wanted to get paid.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29333 on: June 02, 2007, 12:08:47 PM »
Oh boy, here we go again. That poll was in 2001. Ronnies 03 back didn't appear until 2 years later, LOL. So much for your poll.

exactly my point.

huckster has stated that the 99 version or 01 AC is the best of all time.

not reflected on the poll.

besides, ronnie's back was no where near as good as in 98 and 99.

it was bigger, but smoother and the left side was already starting to go.

are you saying that ronnie's back looked best in 03?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29334 on: June 02, 2007, 12:11:37 PM »
Oh boy, here we go again. That poll was in 2001. Ronnies 03 back didn't appear until 2 years later, LOL. So much for your poll.

i was strictly referencing hulkster's comments on the 2001 and 99 AC about ronnie having the best back of all time.

not according to this poll.

03 has nothing to do with anything.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29335 on: June 02, 2007, 12:12:34 PM »
ps question for IceCold:

do you consider Shawn Perine to be a nobody?

because he has publicly stated on his ironage forums that Ronnie's 2001 AC physique is probably the greatest of all time..

It has been quoted before on many dorian vs Ronnie threads..

of course, he is credible.

and lee priest isnt?

by the way, in this months FLEX, shawn states stubbs having the best back of all time.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29336 on: June 02, 2007, 12:14:04 PM »
There's no way that Shawn Ray was the true winner of the 1994 Olympia. He used to say at the end of every Olympia that he should've won. He's a small man with a big mouth. Watch the 1994 Olympia video and see how delighted Joe Weider looks when presenting Yates with his 3rd Sandow.

shawn said that about EVERY single show he lost.

he only won 2 shows - one of which he was DQ'd for.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29337 on: June 02, 2007, 12:22:52 PM »
This Stubbs guy appears to have an incredible back but I wouldn't go as far to say it is better than Yates' or Coleman's. Let him win an Olympia first Shawn.




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29338 on: June 02, 2007, 12:53:36 PM »
This Stubbs guy appears to have an incredible back but I wouldn't go as far to say it is better than Yates' or Coleman's. Let him win an Olympia first Shawn.





stubbs has a long way to go before he can match ronnie:

or dorian for that matter, although Stubbs has Yatesian arms..
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29339 on: June 02, 2007, 12:56:19 PM »
stubbs and coleman:
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29340 on: June 02, 2007, 12:57:21 PM »
and there you have it. Stubbs might have the best back ever in 10 years or something, but he's got a long way to go before he can measure up to the standard set by Big Ron.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29341 on: June 02, 2007, 01:01:23 PM »
and there you have it. Stubbs might have the best back ever in 10 years or something, but he's got a long way to go before he can measure up to the standard set by Big Ron.

Compared to Yates and Coleman his back looks soft. He has has plenty of width though.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29342 on: June 02, 2007, 02:28:48 PM »
stubbs and coleman:

here's a larger, better quality version of that shot. The pic you cropped that image from is actually a smaller version of the original I have.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29343 on: June 02, 2007, 02:40:34 PM »
no rear double bi can match that.

great symmetry.

insane thickness (no pancake yatesian rear double bi here..)

two amazing arms

detail
 
ripped lower back area

everything... :o
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29344 on: June 02, 2007, 03:27:38 PM »
More pics please.. :o

That's all I found BSN. If I find anymore I will post them.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29345 on: June 02, 2007, 03:45:40 PM »
exactly my point.

huckster has stated that the 99 version or 01 AC is the best of all time.

not reflected on the poll.

besides, ronnie's back was no where near as good as in 98 and 99.

it was bigger, but smoother and the left side was already starting to go.

are you saying that ronnie's back looked best in 03?



Me personally, I think Ronnie's 99/01/03 back looks his best, but there are many writers and bodybuilders that think "03" Ronnie's back is the best of all time because of the size, thickness, width and he still had lots of detail in it. It's kind of hard to pick because all 3 years his back looked awesome. That's why I never chose which year specifically.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29346 on: June 02, 2007, 03:47:27 PM »
that ass is freaking huuuuuge  :P

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29347 on: June 02, 2007, 03:55:26 PM »
Ronnie's 2003 back was the widest and thickest in the history of bodybulding..but his 99/01 AC back was better overall.

most people forget how good ronnie looked back in the day:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29348 on: June 02, 2007, 03:56:25 PM »
as we can see, his back did look better in his earlier day..but it was not as wide and thick as his 290 pound form. obviously.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #29349 on: June 02, 2007, 04:26:53 PM »
Ronnie's 2003 back was the widest and thickest in the history of bodybulding..but his 99/01 AC back was better overall.

most people forget how good ronnie looked back in the day:




not even close.

much, much better in 99.

i really think that if yates, kevin, and flex were still competiting later, ronnie would not have come in so heavy.

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