Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[natural al]

GOTTA be smarter man-it's one factor, but not the only one. A grey area that your attempt to think in terms of absolutes will never address.

Some overt examples, since you think in absolutes: Oliva in '72 and in earlier losses, Robinson in the late 70s..enlighten yourself..

never said I thougt in absolutes..you did.  I considered that one of the reasons..I asked you to enlighten me as to the others which you can't do.  Sergio lost to Arnold in 72 cause weider knew arnold could make them millions.  Don't know why Zane would beat Robby...I don't know how much money Zane could make wieder..I can't comment on that one cause I don't know.  Wieder in the late 90's had no problem pushing a guy if they had a good body and could appeal to the public.  Ronnie had a good body and could appeal to the public so why not push him?  Why didn't he make an Olympia posedown while dorian was around?  Instead of throwing facts from other shows like you just did why don't you answer the question?  If you know so much it shouldn't be that hard.....

[NarcissisticDeity]

Actually it means everything. A riposte to your statement that he had a great taper. Shawn ray, ron coleman, flex wheeler, brian buchanan, paul dillet. These men have great tapers by virtue of their small waists and wide delts.

Dorian doesn't.

Keeping "loling" to yourself chico cos you're the only one who can hear it.

No no it doesn't mean anything apparently , why? because he BEAT Ronnie Coleman , Paul Dillet , Shawn Ray and Flex Wheeler despite their ' great taper

and FYI Shawn Ray & Flex Wheeler both had addequate taper NOT great both don't have fantastic calvicle width , they are both structually narrow , fortunately both were born with light frames & naturally narrow hips & waist , so their taper looked ' great ' the same can be said about Coleman & Buchanan to a less degree , both have light frame but Ronnie has the wider back and like Brian ( at one time ) had a abnormally tiny waist , now Paul Dillet is a genetic super-freak with extremely wide clavicles and abnormally small & narrow waist out of the forementioned he has bar far the greatest taper even on a proportional basis

Dorian does actually have narrow hips & waist NOT to the extreme of the forementioned , but when he competed at 250+ lbs his obliques thickened and his taper was somewhat compromised , but even with the thicker obliques when he was 257lbs , when he held is midsection tight his taper was very good , he has one of the sportest widest backs , but he doesn't have the sports widest waists , if this was the case his V-taper would look like Cutlers in the ab-thigh and like Gunthers , two shots that an excellent taper are needed are the ab-thigh & front latspread and Yates basically owns those shots , which is ironic because those are two shots that Flex and Shawn looked very narrow in despite having a better taper as you say

So its all a moot point because desipte this guy having this advantage and that guy having that advantage , they all fell victim to Dorian's superiority , if you can't understand it , it doesn't change history , Dorian dominated everyone in the 90s.

[pumpster]

Quote from: sculpture on Today at 09:40:20 AM
Actually it means everything. A riposte to your statement that he had a great taper. Shawn ray, ron coleman, flex wheeler, brian buchanan, paul dillet. These men have great tapers by virtue of their small waists and wide delts.

Dorian doesn't.

Keeping "loling" to yourself chico cos you're the only one who can hear it.

Hilarious, stop it! It's those voices in his head..

What do you expect from ND, the truth that those guys were better than Yates who should have been beaten? ND's joined at the hip with Iron Age, which is loosely affiliated with FLEX/AMI..

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hilarious, stop it! It's those voices in his head..

What do you expect from ND, the truth that those guys were better than Yates who should have been beaten? ND's joined at the hip with Iron Age, which is loosely affiliated with FLEX/AMI..

You're not even in the game , you post the same pics and make lame comments , you're weak , your logic is weak , you're unwity and you're not even funny , do you have anything to offer other than conspircy theroies and jibberish? I'm seriously asking , because from my prostective like Ronnie when Yates was King , you're not even in the game .

[sculpture]

Re: dorians taper.

Pictures worth a thousand words. Out of all the men, yates has the worst taper yet this still qualifies for you as "good". What would "bad" be then?
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[sculpture]

It never ceases to amaze just how bad dorian looks there.

[MikeThaMachine]

  HA HA HA HA! Even the Coleman supporters admit "pumpster" is a retard, useless piece of garbage!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I am no ronnie supporter  

I am neutral in this, and just hate reading shit that is disquised as an intelligent argument.
I will say i prefer Dorians overall look but that's all the fathest i am getting into that

I always laugh when you type Ronnie has ' great flow ' and ' great lines '

Hulkster Ronnie never ever not for one single time in his entire bodybuilding career ever had great lines in the classic bodybuilding sense & and never had great muscle flow , or aesthetics !!

Just because you find Ronnie's physique pleasing to the eye , doesn't mean he fits the aesthetic bodybuilding criteria , notice he didn't even make the top 20 aesthetic bodybuilders list? he's not aesthetic , I'm sorry to burst your bubble !!

And again Ronnie doesn't have a ' great flow ' to his muscles , he doesn't have great muscle balance & proportion , they just don't , his calves are to small for his quads , his ass is to big for his hams , his biceps/triceps make his forearms look small , his biceps/triceps are actually bigger than his delts , his front & side dlets are so overdeveloped they make his chest look small in the side chest , his muscles are exaggerated and very impressive but they simply don't have a great flow from one to the other Chris Cormier has an amazing flow between almost all of his muscles , Ronnie doesn't have this and never did .

Same here, i don't see how it's possible to say Ronnie and good balance, structure, aesthetics, lines, flow, ect...... in the same sentance

Hulkster must view the world in a completely different way, like the one in which pigs fly, hell freezes over, black is white, up is down, arvilla and alexxx are conetenders for the next O, ect....

We should all do him a favor and pitch in for laser eye surgery

[LuciusFox]

It never ceases to amaze just how bad dorian looks there.

  Looks just like a construction worker about to get his morning coffee.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Re: dorians taper.

Pictures worth a thousand words. Out of all the men, yates has the worst taper yet this still qualifies for you as "good". What would "bad" be then?
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Dorian's taper 257lbs

[NarcissisticDeity]

Re: dorians taper.

Pictures worth a thousand words. Out of all the men, yates has the worst taper yet this still qualifies for you as "good". What would "bad" be then?
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Dorian's taper at 270lbs the same contest

[pumpster]

Hulkster must view the world in a completely different way, like the one in which pigs fly, hell freezes over, black is white, up is down, arvilla and alexxx are conetenders for the next O, ect....

We should all do him a favor and pitch in for laser eye surgery

Thank god the judges who've given him 8 Olympias have your great vision to set them straight. 

It never ceases to amaze just how bad dorian looks there.

 Looks just like a construction worker about to get his morning coffee.

Where to start-deformed arms utterly devoid of separation, refinement & size?

[LuciusFox]

Dorian's taper 257lbs

   Dorian looks smaller at 257 pounds than Ronnie does. Appearance is what matters in bodybuilding.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian's taper at 242lbs

[LuciusFox]

Dorian's taper at 242lbs

   Terrible upper chest. Pathetic arms.

[NarcissisticDeity]

   Dorian looks smaller at 257 pounds than Ronnie does. Appearance is what matters in bodybuilding.

How would you know? you couldn't say that unless they were standing side by side at the same weight , here is a pic of Dorian Dorian at 255lbs & Ronnie at 250lbs and Ronnie looks small & narrow compared to Dorian , so much for that theory .

[pumpster]

Dorian looks smaller at 257 pounds than Ronnie does. Appearance is what matters in bodybuilding.

Entirely true to anyone who understands BB; only nerds obsess on numbers. Ron always looks bigger at comparable weight because of vastly superior taper, smaller joints and greater muscle volume.

The difference is ridiculous- tris AND bis.

[NarcissisticDeity]

   Terrible upper chest. Pathetic arms.

  now you're grasping at straws .

[LuciusFox]

How would you know? you couldn't say that unless they were standing side by side at the same weight , here is a pic of Dorian Dorian at 255lbs & Ronnie at 250lbs and Ronnie looks small & narrow compared to Dorian , so much for that theory .

  I disagree. In peak condition and from all angles, Ronnie looks bigger at the same weight. Dorian's upper chest was nonexistant in that pic and his arms looked like a joke

[NarcissisticDeity]

Entirely true to anyone who understands BB; only nerds obsess on numbers. Ron always looks bigger at comparable weight because of vastly superior taper, smaller joints and greater muscle volume.

 Dorian only has a 5lb weigh advantage in that pic and he makes Coleman look narrow & small

[pumpster]

  Terrible upper chest. Pathetic arms.

  now you're grasping at straws .

You forgot lol

Speaking of straws, check the armz..

[LuciusFox]

Dorian only has a 5lb weigh advantage in that pic and he makes Coleman look narrow & small

  That's quite a stretch

[NarcissisticDeity]

  I disagree. In peak condition and from all angles, Ronnie looks bigger at the same weight. Dorian's upper chest was nonexistant in that pic and his arms looked like a joke

Ronnie doesn't look big from the side , he looks big from the front & back because of his taper other than that he gets lost and look at that picture Dorian just has a 5lb weight advantage yet his back is wider & thicker , the only advantage Coleman has in that pic is biceps peak.

[NarcissisticDeity]

  That's quite a stretch

1996 Mr Olympia , Dorian was 255lbs & Ronnie was 250lbs , no stretch at all .

[pumpster]

Another brilliant example..Yates with *NO* peaks whatsoever, they're invisible..

[NarcissisticDeity]

Another brilliant example..Yates with *NO* peaks whatsoever, they're invisible..

Like Ronnie's calves?