Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[pumpster]

Based on every other shot of Yates, the right arm appears morphed vs. the other arm and as compared with the second pic.

Morphed seems almost essential to compare with what Coleman's actually got.

In any event, the shape and lack of detail's completely uninspiring AKA putrid.

[pumpster]

Yates looks "ok" alone. The arm deficiencies - both bis & tris - are glaring in comparison with Coleman and others like Dillet.

Can really appreciate Yates' superior density & dryness here-but the arm deficiencies as well as other issues like aesthetics and lines really detract.

[pumpster]

Just to reiterate for those who have proven themselves cognitively challenged:

The striking dominance of Dillet over Yates re: size, shape, taper and quality is pretty much what would have been seen with an improved Coleman standing beside Yates. Coleman had less flaws than Dillet so the difference would have been even more pronounced.

Looking at those pics you'd never think of Yates as the winner over Dillet.

[healthiswealth]

jesus f'ing christ. Look at Shawn's taper. Incredible.

[healthiswealth]

Just to reiterate for those who have proven themselves cognitively challenged:

The striking dominance of Dillet over Yates re: size, shape, taper and quality is pretty much what would have been seen with an improved Coleman standing beside Yates. Coleman had less flaws than Dillet so the difference would have been even more pronounced.

Looking at those pics you'd never think of Yates as the winner over Dillet.

ok, now you are starting to become as delusional as ND. Dillet does not beat Yates. Yates raped everyone in his era, with the exception of Shawn Ray and maybe flex wheeler. Lets keep this Ronnnie Vs. Dorian.

[Ex Coelis]

Just look at how Ronnie dwarfs Dillett - Paul looks like a little girl next to Coleman! 

[pumpster]

now you are starting to become as delusional as ND. Dillet does not beat Yates. Yates raped everyone in his era, with the exception of Shawn Ray and maybe flex wheeler. Lets keep this Ronnnie Vs. Dorian.

If you're going to be lazy and simply reiterate history you've added nothing whatsoever. According to you all contest results are incontestible. As others have noticed, whether you like it or not the pics suggest otherwise.

[natural al]

Yet another shot (4th or 5th now) in which Yates doesn't look like a winner. The difference in size & shape between him and Dillet's absurd-about the same contrast that would've been seen standing beside an improved Coleman BTW.

Lavrone's arms are also better.

Dillet could basically destroy everyone from the front, at his absolute best he could stand on stage with Ronnie and be competitive-not win but be competitive from the front-everyone knows when he turned around it was lights out...and he couldn't pose for s-h-i-t, that's why he lost to dorian and even guys like labrada....

and no, I'm not going to go at it with you, just wanted to point that out to the uninformed.

[healthiswealth]

If you're going to be lazy and simply reiterate history you've added nothing whatsoever. According to you all contest results are incontestible. As others have noticed, whether you like it or not the pics suggest otherwise.

If you are going to be lazy and reiterate history in the form of pictures, then you've added nothing whatsoever. Pictures can be the most deceiving form of "proof" out there. Heck, even videos are deceiving. There are 3 reasons as to why this debate is flawed.

1. Heavy reliance on pictoral proof.
2. inconsistencies in pictoral relevance (I.E. posting a picture of Ronnie in olympia shape, followed by an offseason shot of yates and vice versa)
3. Basic idiocy

Dillet, whilst being a freak among freaks, had an incredibly weak back, and his posing was terrible. You just can't have even a mediocre back at the olympia level. So if you are going to rely on "relaxed" shots to prove a point, then you should really reconsider this whole "I am using logic to prove my point" ordeal.

Furthermore, let is be said: This thread is abundant with irony

[nicorulez]

Natural, you are correct. From the front, Dillet was unbeatable.  He maybe could have been a little thicker in the chest, but the man had unparalleled width and size.  His abs were tiny also.  His legs were huge and he had awesome calves.  Unfortunately, he never trained that hard, and he totally neglected his back.  I think if he would have had the intestinal fortitude, he would have been the greatest champion ever.  Nobody has ever looked that impressive from the front, Ronnie included.  However, he didn't have the drive to push his body to that level where his back matched his front.  He absolutely shits on Dorian from the front.  However, minding that, Dorian looked damn good in 1993 and anyone who disputes this is biased.  Overall, however, Dorian can't touch Ronnie when the latter is in shape (i.e. 1998/1999/2001 Arnold or even 2003).

[pumpster]

1. Heavy reliance on pictoral proof.
2. inconsistencies in pictoral relevance (I.E. posting a picture of Ronnie in olympia shape, followed by an offseason shot of yates and vice versa)
3. Basic idiocy

Dillet, whilst being a freak among freaks, had an incredibly weak back

1/Your analysis is deeply one-sided and one-dimensional, rife with flawed logic: heavy reliance on pics as well as videos (which you've ignored) as opposed to what, exactly? You've suggested nothing better you idiot. In which case your assessment is meaningless. hahhahhahahhahah
2/ Inconsistencies in pics-I've done the best I could. Some are imperfect, most are not, from amongst the selections I have available. Unless you can offer better, STFU twit.
3/ What you neglected to do is put Dillet's back in context-everyone has weaknesses, thus a weak back's hardly decisive by itself. In frontal shots which are the most important in BB, he dominated, something that is not as easily dismissed regardless of what you think.
4/ You've provided absolutely nothing yourself beyond that which you've criticized, making you a vindictive nincompoop.

[NarcissisticDeity]

1/Your analysis is deeply one-sided and one-dimensional, rife with flawed logic: heavy reliance on pics as well as videos (which you've ignored) as opposed to what, exactly? You've suggested nothing better you idiot. In which case your assessment is meaningless. hahhahhahahhahah
2/ Inconsistencies in pics-I've done the best I could. Some are imperfect, most are not, from amongst the selections I have available. Unless you can offer better, STFU twit.
3/ What you neglected to do is put Dillet's back in context-everyone has weaknesses, thus a weak back's hardly decisive by itself. In frontal shots which are the most important in BB, he dominated, something that is not as easily dismissed regardless of what you think.
4/ You've provided absolutely nothing yourself beyond that which you've criticized, making you a vindictive nincompoop.

Have you ever seen a bodybuilding contest on DVD or VHS? because there is a big difference in quality from that compared to compressed video on-line , the same can be said with pictures , sometimes no matter how great a scan is its still not as good as the magazine and forget reality , you cannot base contest results on a few pictures & compressed videos you just can't and when you say  " Yates looks 3rd or 4th " shows your blatant bias and onvious lack of what the judges are looking for , I personally would have preffered Flex win in 93 but thats just my personal opinion but make NO mistake no one and I mean one one questioned Dorian's win in 93 , he was just that good

You're notorious for posting pictures of Dorian from the 1997 Olympia his obvious worse to ' prove ' your point but what is prove is that you can't stick to parameters of the debate and you're grasping at straws because even at his worse he was still good enough to beat Ronnie

Concerning Dillett on paper Paul had the tools to beat anyone , anytime , anyplace including Dorian at 257lbs and Ronnie at 287lbs , but in reality two things prevented Paul from being the best his back & conditioning , and to try and brush of Dilletts back as just another weakness everyone has isn't accurate , having a weak back is obviously a major liability !! the back is a huge area and while it looks great from the front as soon as you turn around and stand next to Dorian or Flex its apparent

His conditioning was another problem while at times he came in ripped most of the time he wasn't 100% and when he was he was always balled over on-stage due to cramping , it doesn't due much if you have an outstanding physique and can't properly display it

What place does Dillett look now?

[pumpster]

That pic of their backs emphasizes that while Yates had a big advantage, Dillet had yet a larger advantage from the front. Dillet's obvious advantage from almost any other angle than from the back can't be dismissed because of a few back shots, which is what's suggested. Frontal shots will always be more important and more numerous.

As far as videos online that's what's available.

On the pics, I've asked repeatedly for better shots and no one's delivered. So much for the theory of staying with certain shots-stay with whatever's available. I've posted what i've found. Sadly, those that show him in better condition are few and far between; there aren't many others to address some of the other poses. I've asked for and am still waiting for exceptional shots of particular poses. They don't exist because he just didn't look good in many poses.

[suckmymuscle]

I don't know.

Do you?

  You tell me. You're the self-entitled expert on morphed shots. So, are they morphed, dumbass?

  Hint: no, they are not.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

Coincidentally, one of SUCKMYASSHOLE after a workout...

  So, you look at this pic and fantasize about me while jacking-off? You faggo t.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

  Look at how shitty Ronnie looks from the front, when compared to Dorian. The Yates has more etchiness, density, dryness and abs-obliques details than Ronnie could ever dream of.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

  Funny how these girls, who get their protein almost exclusively from Ronnie's nuts-milk, keep talking about how great Ronnie's hams/glutes are. Their good, but not when compared to Dorian's. Check it out.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

  Not even in his wildest dreams could Ronnie pull of side tris shots like these.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[nicorulez]

Well, the great Sucky has reappeared like a ghost out of ND's ass.  Let us see SwallowNDsLoad, you claim in another thread that Coleman circa 1998 had a top ten physique of all time.  Yes, you did rate Yate's 1993 number four or five, but still you did not have him listed under any other year in your list.  Funny, you continually have claimed in this thread that Ronnie could have never beaten the great Dorian Yates.... .  Hummh, let us think this over for one minute.  I will go very slow as I don't want to lose you...are you still with me Swallow.  So, Yate's in 1997 was considered almost universally to having been gifted a Mr. Olympia except by you.  He looked like shit, even ND admits this.  However, you have stated many times that if Yates wouldn't have retired that Coleman would have never won the Mr. Olympia.  WTF, then you prove Pumpster right and everyone else here correct when they claim that Mr. Olympia's are not always won; they are often gifted to the defending champ.  You see, if a Yates that was even a semblance of his 1997 form would have beaten Ronnie 1998, it would prove how poor IFBB judging really is.  Thus, it validates everyone's point that Yates looked good only in 1992/1993 and 1995 (marginal except for conditioning and his back).  In 1994, 1996 and 1997; he looked like a turd.  So, if you and ND would only admit the fact that Coleman would have anally raped Yates in 1998, this thread would die.  We could hypothesize for a zillion years how Yates circa 1993 would do against Ronnie 1998/1999/2001 ASC.  However, the fact is, and Hulkster and Pumpster and repeatedly pointed this out, your boy would have gotten beat down in 1998 if he chose to compete.  Thus, Ronnie would have beaten Yates.  Regardless, I anxiously await your witty retort.    I can hear the cursing....now.

[ANAL DISCHARGE]

Still going fellas?  I see Dorian still RAPES Ronnie in all the pics posted including those by the severely mentally retared Pumpster.  Inbreeding has a lot to answer for.

[Hulkster]

Still having trouble with your monitor?


you are a fool for not seeing how good this is...

[pumpster]

the great Sucky has reappeared like a ghost out of ND's ass.

This sums it up better than all of Sucky's page-wasting "contributions" combined.

Just to get it straight my coginitively-challenged one, the one who keeps posting great shots of Coleman, I've already established that his side-tri is right there with Yates. Right there on one of Yates' supposed signature shots-signature because for tris that's all he has given his deficienies.

Here with tris almost twice the size of Yates, and almost the same degree of detail. Shape is comprable.

[delta9mda]

does ronnie train calves? 

[pumpster]

About as hard as Yates trained bis n traps.

Flapjacks 'R' Us..

[Al-Gebra]

Still having trouble with your monitor?


you are a fool for not seeing how good this is...

chad might have stolen kidneys, but to get such conditioning is pretty crazy.