Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[pumpster]

No you didn't , you did nothing , Natural Al called you out and you ran from him and now I'm calling you out again and you're running again I'm going to start calling you the running man , lets go champ . explain to me how Ronnie could compensate size wise for his gut in 2001 ASC dispite having 23 less pounds of muscle than Dorian in 1997

Dementia's set in in lieu of logic, as he asks me to repeat what i've already shown 10 times at least..can only mean one thing..


Morning MELTDOWN..

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dementia's set in..can only mean one thing..


Morning MELTDOWN..

Ah anything to avoid answering the questions lol run away running man lol

I own you 

[pumpster]

I own you

He said to himself, muttering, as he strolled down the street perusing garbage cans..

[NarcissisticDeity]

He said to himself, muttering, as he strolled down the street perusing garbage cans..

Keep running  from me and your own stupidity

[pumpster]

Keep running   from me and your own stupidity

You've got me all wrong-I embrace your stupidity! Who else would post pics like this while talking about "striations" when his arms & delts are almost entirely absent of them?

[NarcissisticDeity]

You've got me all wrong-I embrace your stupidity! Who else would post pics like this while talking about "striations" when his arms & delts are almost entirely absent of them?

Moron , please show me where I said " look at the striations on his arms and delts " please show me , I'm calling you out ( again ) I said look at the striations on his chest , so nice try but you've failed . running man .

[pumpster]

You *have* to be a moron to post that pic while discussing "striations". I don't think you understand BB fundamentals, kid.

[NarcissisticDeity]

You *have* to be a moron to post that pic while discussing "striations". I don't think you understand BB fundamentals, kid.

No I claimed his chest was littered with striations and posted a pic to prove , I never mentioned ' delts & arms "  stop running  3 people have called you out and you've ran from all 3 of us lol see a trend?

[Hulkster]

ND, the fact that throughout this debate you don't care that dorian has little detail in his delts, arms and quads shows your novice knowledge of how bodybuilding is judged.

You really have no clue.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, the fact that throughout this debate you don't care that dorian has little detail in his delts, arms and quads shows your novice knowledge of how bodybuilding is judged.

You really have no clue.

I've posted the IFBB mens profesional judging criteria , I've maintained from day one that calves & forearms are judged and so is balance & proportion , and low and behold is was in the criteria

whats ironic is you say I don't have a clue , but no where did I see in the criteria x-frame , or the guys with the most striations or the best V-taper wins lol what I did see what in every single pose the judges are specifically asking to see calves a muscle which you I might add said means nothing 

I may not know everything there is about bodybuilding but I know more than you and pumpster , when you say Dorian is the most overrated bodybuilder in the history of bodybuilding and Matt Mendenhall is blocky and Ronnie has better aesthetics than Mendenhall and 1994 Mr Olympia was just as controvercial as 1980 and Ronnie deserved to win in 2001 and Dorian didn't in 1994 , and Dorian's conditioning was a myth , you really don't have any room to speak on anyones knowlege of bodybuilding . 

[nicorulez]

One i find it honestly laughable you're claiming anyone is ' touchy ' lol you my friend have balls the size of church bells calling anyone touchy , you get so emotional on these boards and take it way to seriously ( seriously lol ) you go on this tangent about how he's British and your American lol get the hook

pumpster really isn't in the conversation , in all honesty I tried to ingauge him with an open mind and when I posted a quote where Lee Priest says Dorian would beat Ronnie with ease and he claims Lee is racist he should have been banned just for that , he makes claims and has no proof when you call him on it he runs like a little girl , now OBVIOUSLY I don't mind debtating anyone about their opinion , hence the 247 pages , but when the debating includes making wild accusations and offering nothing in response but pics with " HA HA HA HA " attached it shows he's not worthy to be ON MY thread    and his dumb ass should have been banned not for being stupid , hell I have fun with that but for claiming Lee is a racist because he was born in Australia and he thinks Dorian would beat Ronnie with ease.

Anyway you're a typical Coleman-fan hypocrtical to the last letter you're extremly touchy yet claim I am  even if that was the case why would it be okay for you and not me?  I know why for the same reasons its okay for Ronnie to win when he looks like garbage ( 01/02 ) and not Okay for Dorian ( 94 ) 

Have I ever claimed that Ronnie looked great in 2001/2002? No I have not.  Anyway, you are a pot called the kettle black when you talk about emotional retorts.  Over the past fifty pages, you have started belittling people and disparaging their opinions and IQ.  You are the idiot.  You have no comprehension of human physiology.  You do not have a clue about why Ronnie shits all over your boy.  He has wider shoulders; this is not debatable.  His waist is narrower from the front (no ugly obliques).  His chest/shoulders/arms are in another league all together (it is like comparing Walter Payton to a college athlete).  Dorian's legs (thighs/hams) are smaller, less defined and lack sweep.  His calves are great, but only you care.  Yate's good arm is pathetic; not to mention the lack of a left bicep.  Yate's only redeeming point is his back.  His waist most certainly is not good.  It appears good in the abs/thigh but standing relaxed or from the side it is more bulbous than Coleman at 296.  Conditioning is your mantra.  In 2003, Ronnie was shredded. His ass was shredded.  His upper body was incomparable.  Yates in 1994/1997 was a joke.  He may have been better than bodybuilders twenty pounds lighter, but Nasser would have and should have beaten him.  Flex, in shape, would have won.  Hell, I feel that Mike Francois could have been a contender if he didn't get colitis. 

Oh and BTW, this may be a thread you initiated but once again it is a public forum (in no way is it your forum asshole).  To that, I salute you and say "shut the fuck up internet fanboi."  You, ND, are a complete and utter idiot.  Go back to smoking that crack that has sustained this thread for 250 pages.  I find it hilarious when you try to sound analytical.  I guess that your arguments hold up well with individuals who have the collective IQ of a chimp.

[pumpster]

To that, I salute you and say "shut the f**k up internet fanboi."  You, ND, are a complete and utter idiot.

Pithy & concise.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Have I ever claimed that Ronnie looked great in 2001/2002? No I have not.  Anyway, you are a pot called the kettle black when you talk about emotional retorts.  Over the past fifty pages, you have started belittling people and disparaging their opinions and IQ.  You are the idiot.  You have no comprehension of human physiology.  You do not have a clue about why Ronnie shits all over your boy.  He has wider shoulders; this is not debatable.  His waist is narrower from the front (no ugly obliques).  His chest/shoulders/arms are in another league all together (it is like comparing Walter Payton to a college athlete).  Dorian's legs (thighs/hams) are smaller, less defined and lack sweep.  His calves are great, but only you care.  Yate's good arm is pathetic; not to mention the lack of a left bicep.  Yate's only redeeming point is his back.  His waist most certainly is not good.  It appears good in the abs/thigh but standing relaxed or from the side it is more bulbous than Coleman at 296.  Conditioning is your mantra.  In 2003, Ronnie was shredded. His ass was shredded.  His upper body was incomparable.  Yates in 1994/1997 was a joke.  He may have been better than bodybuilders twenty pounds lighter, but Nasser would have and should have beaten him.  Flex, in shape, would have won.  Hell, I feel that Mike Francois could have been a contender if he didn't get colitis. 

Oh and BTW, this may be a thread you initiated but once again it is a public forum (in no way is it your forum asshole).  To that, I salute you and say "shut the f**k up internet fanboi."  You, ND, are a complete and utter idiot.  Go back to smoking that crack that has sustained this thread for 250 pages.  I find it hilarious when you try to sound analytical.  I guess that your arguments hold up well with individuals who have the collective IQ of a chimp.

Wow another very emotional post lol I love when you get all upset lol you try and stay away from this thread but you're like a drug addict for my little black letters , you're a typical Coleman you're a hypocrite. you're complaining about me calling people stupid and yet you go on and do the same to me   and you're contrdicting yourself because in PM you were kissing my ass telling me how intelligent I am lol notice I never replied saying the same to you?   and whats funny is I've always maintained the same thing , so who looks like an idiot one day kissing my ass about how intelligent my posts are and then the next day I'm an idiot? not me   in the end if you can't handle the heat stay out of my kitchen.  

[NarcissisticDeity]

Pithy & concise.

Run forest run . 

[nicorulez]

ND...I only call you and Sucky assholes as this is true.  Everybody else, whatever.  I find it hilarious that you think you have some special "heat."  Yes, I admit when I first got on these boards your posts were usually dignified and well thought out. However, like the venerable Howard Dean, you have slowly morphed into this callous, pompous ass who believes that you and you alone are the bodybuilding authority on this board.  You have degenerated into this internet fanboi to the nth degree.  So, it is even a sadder as I did respect you initially; no, you are nothing but a dim witted blowhard who spews more garbage out of your ass than anyone on this board except Oliver....ehhhrrrr Sucky.    (That should piss him off).  Regardless ND, you have never been to a show.  You have never even met Dorian or even been within a hundred yards of him.  I saw him from the within 10 rows at the 1991 Mr. Olympia.  He was good.  Tight waist, good taper.  However, Haney owned him when they were compared that evening.  Moreover, he became a bastardized version of himself after 1994.  Whatever you say ND is BS; you probably have never seen a pro in person period.  Thus, your points, no matter how valid you make them out to be, are moot.  Once again, it is you and not Hulkster who is the true "internet fanboi."  Go back to your cave. The heat in your kitchen is awfully cold.

[the choad]

Somone kill this fucking thread.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND...I only call you and Sucky assholes as this is true.  Everybody else, whatever.  I find it hilarious that you think you have some special "heat."  Yes, I admit when I first got on these boards your posts were usually dignified and well thought out. However, like the venerable Howard Dean, you have slowly morphed into this callous, pompous ass who believes that you and you alone are the bodybuilding authority on this board.  You have degenerated into this internet fanboi to the nth degree.  So, it is even a sadder as I did respect you initially; no, you are nothing but a dim witted blowhard who spews more garbage out of your ass than anyone on this board except Oliver....ehhhrrrr Sucky.    (That should piss him off).  Regardless ND, you have never been to a show.  You have never even met Dorian or even been within a hundred yards of him.  I saw him from the within 10 rows at the 1991 Mr. Olympia.  He was good.  Tight waist, good taper.  However, Haney owned him when they were compared that evening.  Moreover, he became a bastardized version of himself after 1994.  Whatever you say ND is BS; you probably have never seen a pro in person period.  Thus, your points, no matter how valid you make them out to be, are moot.  Once again, it is you and not Hulkster who is the true "internet fanboi."  Go back to your cave. The heat in your kitchen is awfully cold.

You're an outright hypocrite you can't escape that . look what you my friend the self describe intellectual and educated man has been reduced to lol caddy profanity & juvinile name calling. whats your excuse? you're supposed to be the ' educated ' one lol  keep posting though I enjoy the laughes .

Oh and BTW you've seen Haney & Yates in person so somehow that makes you and authoritry?  your ability to critique the bodybuilders phsyique can't be trusted because you're the same guy who felt Jay Cutler 2001 should have been on the 20 most aesthetic bodybuilders list lol ..............Jay Cutler lol     

[Hulkster]

whats ironic is you say I don't have a clue , but no where did I see in the criteria x-frame , or the guys with the most striations or the best V-taper wins

yes, and nowhere in bodybuilding has any of that ever been overlooked.

All of those traits are judged in conjuction with one another. They are not, as you seem to claim, judged in isolation (that is why Andreas Munzer never became Mr. O. based on his striations). They give an ADVANTAGE.

you cannot grasp this.

as I say, you have a novice knowledge of how bb is judged and really still have not got a clue.

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes, and nowhere in bodybuilding has any of that ever been overlooked.

All of those traits are judged in conjuction with one another. They are not, as you seem to claim, judged in isolation (that is why Andreas Munzer never became Mr. O. based on his striations). They give an ADVANTAGE.

you cannot grasp this.

as I say, you have a novice knowledge of how bb is judged and really still have not got a clue.

You have a retarded knowlege of bodybuilding hence you say ' calves don't matter ' and " Dorian is the most overrated bodybuilder of all time" and " Matt Mendehall is locky " and " Ronnie Coleman is more asesthetic tha Mendehall " and " Ronnie has better balance than Dorian " and " Dorian's conditioning was a myth "  and " Dorian is just back and calves " oh and " Dorian only looks good standing alone " lol and lets not forget this gem " Shawn Ray destorys Yates in the back double bicep shot " lol shall I continue? you're clueless and internet-fan-boy

I may not know much but I sure as hell know more than you and pumpster .

[pumpster]

I admit when I first got on these boards your posts were usually dignified and well thought out. However, like the venerable Howard Dean, you have slowly morphed into this callous, pompous ass who believes that you and you alone are the bodybuilding authority on this board.

The only thing I disagree with is that he's changed-was always a pompous windbag (trained by "the best" on Iron Age if that's not an oxymoron).

[NarcissisticDeity]

The only thing I disagree with is that he's changed-was always a pompous windbag (trained by "the best" on Iron Age if that's not an oxymoron).

You don't much to say when people call you out lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

For Hulkster

Quote Flex Dec 1995

 " In 1994 , he ( Dorian ) was admittedly not at his best , but he was still the best bodybuilder onstage that day. No one not even runner-up Shawn Ray,disagreed with that stance on the night of Yates' threepeat. "

quote Flex Jan 1995 " Let it be recorded tthat in the immediate aftermath of the contest , none of his closest rivals even hinted that Yates did not deserve to win . "

quote Shawn Ray Flex Jan 1995 " Tonight I feel I got what I deserved "


quote Flex Jan 1995 " As Yates , Levrone and Ray stood onstage , the reiging champ ( cognizant of 1992 ) told Levrone " Looks like it's you and me again " Mr Olympia got it wrong , and the booing deciblel dwarfed that accorded the Dillet announcement as Kevin Levrone was called out in third "


quote Ironman Jan 1995 " Since he ( Ray ) was trailing Levrone by four points going into round 3 ( posing round ) Shawn was going to have to equal his showing of seven years ago ( Nationals win ) to have a chance of passing Levrone "


quote Ironman Jan 1995 " The battle was between Shawn and Kevin for second "

quote " Shawn Ray in a rout. He was better than ever. Any criticism is a stretch for a reporter to fill space. That such magnificence is litterally crushed by Yates is a sobering thought ."

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian not looking good when compared to anyone else 

[NarcissisticDeity]

More .

[NarcissisticDeity]

Still more .