Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[pumpster]

Quote from: pumpster on Today at 06:51:43 PM
ND's answer to his ongoing absence of content or reasoning? Attack like a rabbid dog. 

He aren't you the same guy who claimed bodybuilder from other countries are more intelligent than American ones? lol

The knucklehead absolutely refuses, no runs away from, anything substantive. Instead, tier-b one-liners that crack only himself up are followed by "lol", his way of telling us that it must be funny. Basically it's ND giggling like a 15-year old.

[NarcissisticDeity]

The knucklehead absolutely refuses, no runs away from, anything substantive. Instead, tier-b one-liners that crack only himself up are of course by "lol", his way of telling us that it must be funny. Basically it's ND giggling like a 15-year old.

You should consider being a politician because you're very good at avoiding direct questions .

[pumpster]

You should consider being a politician because you're very good at avoiding direct questions .

Johnny Cockring with no credibility telling someone else what to do!

[NarcissisticDeity]

Johnny Cockring with no credibility telling someone else what to do!

So please elaborate oh internet-intellectual on just how bodybuilders from other countries are more intelligent than their American counterparts .

[delta9mda]

he said she said damnit man. no truce yet.

[Oliver Klaushof]

Huckster....Why do you feel so compelled to bash Yates? Is it because you are bitter that Doz defeated Coleman 7 times or more? Face it, without Yates, there would be no Ronnie. Yates set new standard for mass and conditioning. His ab/thigh is just incredible for a man that size - something Ronnie can't even touch. Ronnie's distended mid-section just kills his whole physique. It ruins his chest. Coleman has the dubious distinction of being the only champion with a stomach that sticks out farther than his chest! I can see why newbies would be impressed by a collection of massive bodyparts - but a more discerning critic recognises the difference in quality. You just hold a grudge. You are on a never ending quest for the vindication of Ronnie Coleman - something that will never happen. Ronne = o wins over Yates. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Huckster....Why do you feel so compelled to bash Yates? Is it because you are bitter that Doz defeated Coleman 7 times or more? Face it, without Yates, there would be no Ronnie. Yates set new standard for mass and conditioning. His ab/thigh is just incredible for a man that size - something Ronnie can't even touch. Ronnie's distended mid-section just kills his whole physique. It ruins his chest. Coleman has the dubious distinction of being the only champion with a stomach that sticks out farther than his chest! I can see why newbies would be impressed by a collection of massive bodyparts - but a more discerning critic recognises the difference in quality. You just hold a grudge. You are on a never ending quest for the vindication of Ronnie Coleman - something that will never happen. Ronne = o wins over Yates. 

Well said ! its one thing to think he could have beaten Yates at his prime but the lenghts Hulkster & pumpster take are pathetic , just sad .

[healthiswealth]

Well said ! its one thing to think he could have beaten Yates at his prime but the lenghts Hulkster & pumpster take are pathetic , just sad .

this thread contains way too much irony.


I don't even need to point to the time you were trying to prove how Yates' arms were superior to Ronnie's.

[pumpster]

Why do you feel so compelled to bash Yates? Is it because you are bitter that Doz defeated Coleman 7 times or more? Face it, without Yates, there would be no Ronnie.

Asking that question reveals your obliviousness. Yates' physique was and still is considered repulsive to many-the antithesis of BB. Many can't stand Yates; we're just the tip of the iceberg yet you don't even know that. Ask Sergio what he thinks of Yates-not much different than we've been saying!

No Yates therefore no Coleman? Are you friggin nuts? What pomposity! One had nothing to do with the other.

[NarcissisticDeity]

this thread contains way too much irony.


I don't even need to point to the time you were trying to prove how Yates' arms were superior to Ronnie's.

I claimed the were better overall , because he has the better forearms & tricpes and his arms overall have a better balance and how you equate that to the nonsense these guys have spouted is beyond rational thought

Hulkster has claimed Dorian is the most overrated bodybuilder in history , refered to him as a blocky white guy and like pumpster a construction worker , they gone as far as denying bodybuilding history out of pure bias , so please explain to me exactly how me saying Dorian has better arms overall compares to this nonsense .

[NarcissisticDeity]

Asking that question reveals your obliviousness. Yates' physique was and still is considered repulsive to many-the antithesis of BB. Many can't stand Yates; we're just the tip of the iceberg yet you don't even know that. Ask Sergio what he thinks of Yates-not much different than we've been saying!

No Yates therefore no Coleman? Are you friggin nuts? What pomposity! One had nothing to do with the other.

You act like Sergio is such a stand-up guy when in fact he's not that great a person , a great bodybuilder but don't rely so much on what he has to say , he's still bitter about getting beat by Arnold for years .

[Hulkster]

but a more discerning critic recognises the difference in quality

and a more discerning critic should recognize that these are not good arms:



these are not good quads:



this is not a very good chest:



This is certainly not the "greatest back of all time":



this is not a good taper



this is not good balance:



and this misdsection is the worst relaxed of all time:




 

Why I am so hard on Yates?

Because a few of you are orgasming over quality that simply is not there.
And this is causing you to make the mistake of thinking that yates has a physique that would beat this:




which I do not think would happen.

the size is there.
The quality shape and detail are not in MAJOR areas of the body.
Especially compared to guys like Ronnie and Flex at their bests.

Sure, the judges clearly thought that Yates dominated.

but it was the REASON that they believed this that was the problem

they valued size and wide lats over muscular shape, quality and detail.

I do not.

Its that simple.

[Hulkster]

Well said ! its one thing to think he could have beaten Yates at his prime but the lenghts Hulkster & pumpster take are pathetic , just sad .

oh come on! We have given the Construcion Worker far more credit than you have ever given Ronnie.

You have even tried to argue that Arnold's quads were better than peak Ronnie's for fucks sake!

don't forget: "small traps from the front"

"vascularity, taper and striations have never won anyone a contest"

You are the pot calling the kettle black.

[NarcissisticDeity]

and a more discerning critic should recognize that these are not good arms:



these are not good quads:

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this is not a very good chest:


This is certainly not the "greatest back of all time":


this is not a good taper



this is not good balance:

]

and this misdsection is the worst relaxed of all time:



 

Why I am so hard on Yates?

Because a few of you are orgasming over quality that simply is not there.
And this is causing you to make the mistake of thinking that yates has a physique that would beat this:


which I do not think would happen.

the size is there.
The quality shape and detail are not in MAJOR areas of the body.
Especially compared to guys like Ronnie and Flex at their bests.

Sure, the judges clearly thought that Yates dominated.

but it was the REASON that they believed this that was the problem

they valued size and wide lats over muscular shape, quality and detail.

I do not.

Its that simple.

Monster delusion , why again do you fear posting quality shots of Dorian ? because you're scared ! you're biased against Dorian for some odd reason and this is clearly evident to anyone with any common sense , I've posted great pictures to the contrary of every single statement you just made and you continue to expose yourself as pathetic.

[NarcissisticDeity]

oh come on! We have given the Construcion Worker far more credit than you have ever given Ronnie.

You have even tried to argue that Arnold's quads were better than peak Ronnie's for fucks sake!

don't forget: "small traps from the front"

"vascularity, taper and striations have never won anyone a contest"

You are the pot calling the kettle black.

No nice try , but please show me where I've bashed Ronnie to the lenghts & extent you and pumpster have and good luck , you'll need it .

[Hulkster]

I have used quality shots. This is a GREAT shot and Dorian was in GREAT shape in 1992.

the shot of his taper was from his BEST EVER shape.

Here is a shot showing his crappy arms and delts from his BEST EVER B&W shots:


the main problem is the lack of great shape..


more 1993-wide waist, weak arms, few quad cuts, flat chest..

 why are you scared to admit he has major flaws especially when compared to guys like Ronnie and Flex?

[pumpster]

You act like Sergio is such a stand-up guy when in fact he's not that great a person , a great bodybuilder but don't rely so much on what he has to say , he's still bitter about getting beat by Arnold for years .

ND now seeking to discredit Sergio-apparently ND also knows better than Sergio. Oliva in interviews comes across as extremely forthright, which is part of why he didn't train in Venice and didn't fit into Weider's agendas.

In 1-2 sentences Oliva's accurate assessment of Yates still resonates over all the nonsensical filler and justifications provided by ND.

[Hulkster]

What's even better is that ND takes the opinion of Lee Priest as the Gospel yet ingores the opinions of Flex Wheeler, Sergio Olivia, Paul Dillett and Shawn Ray.

[pumpster]

You act like Sergio is such a stand-up guy when in fact he's not that great a person , a great bodybuilder but don't rely so much on what he has to say , he's still bitter about getting beat by Arnold for years .

I'd like to know how ND figured out that Sergio's still bitter...nice bit of absolute garbage once again. Oliva's words hold a lot more weight than those of an unstable Priest with facial tatoos or an amateur like ND who seems to think he knows more than Oliva. Now THAT'S funny!

[NarcissisticDeity]

I have used quality shots. This is a GREAT shot and Dorian was in GREAT shape in 1992.

the shot of his taper was from his BEST EVER shape.

Here is a shot showing his crappy arms and delts from his BEST EVER B&W shots:


the main problem is the lack of great shape..


more 1993-wide waist, weak arms, few quad cuts, flat chest..

 why are you scared to admit he has major flaws especially when compared to guys like Ronnie and Flex?

Wow that shot from 92 is obviously not his best but still better than everyone in 92 thats not debatable .

Again at his best his arms were NOT weak or crappy or any other lame comment you can make , they were damn good even if you're blind , his forearms & triceps waste Ronnies , his waist in 93 was realtively wide but still tight when flexed , his quads were cut with the exception of his upper quads you're an internet-fan and have been called out on that one   , his chest isn't flat , you'd be able to tell if it was flat in the front double bicep shot , if you need refference see Ronnie Coleman in that shot   and poor balance? I wont even dignify that with a response .

crappy delts and arms? how untterly pathtetic of you.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND now seeking to discredit Sergio-apparently ND also knows better than Sergio. Oliva in interviews comes across as extremely forthright, which is part of why he didn't train in Venice and didn't fit into Weider's agendas.

In 1-2 sentences Oliva's accurate assessment of Yates still resonates over all the nonsensical filler and justifications provided by ND.

No Sergio does a fantastic job of discrediting himself he doesn't need my help lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

What's even better is that ND takes the opinion of Lee Priest as the Gospel yet ingores the opinions of Flex Wheeler, Sergio Olivia, Paul Dillett and Shawn Ray.

No I've taken Flexs comment that Dorian Yates was unbeatable into account , and Shawn Ray's comment at the 1994 Mr Olympia that he got the place he deserved oh and Paul Dilletts comment that after the 1995 Mr Olympia he just seen jesus christ and he looks like Dorian Yates , oh and Lee Priests as well lol 

[nicorulez]

ND, just trying to state that Yate's arms are more balanced than Ronnie's is an utter joke.  In 2003, Ronnie brought to stage legit 23-24 inch arms that were vascular and tight.  Dorian's arms could never come close.  Remember, the tricep is approx. 60% if the size of the arm, and Ronnie has great triceps.  Granted, he does not show them to full effect like someone like Cutler, but Ronnie's arms blow Yate's arms out of the water.  For one thing, Yates has horrible biceps...this was evident pre-tear.  His forearms are nice, but the thickness near the wrist is attributable to his thick joints.  Ronnie's forearms are larger, but because of his smaller joints he has mroe of a taper.  Try to tell me that Dorian had bigger forearms than Ronnie in 2003.  Please, that is pure unadulterated delusion.  Oliver, Dorian's waist was disgusting after 1993.  He got it together one time for the 1995 Mr. Olympia, but he looked like complete garbage in 1994/1997.  His obliques were bulbous and hanging over his trunks.  This is not a taper.  Moreover, Ronnie can hold much more weight than Dorian with aesthetics.  Granted, Ronnie's waist in 2003 was not equal to his waist in 1998; however, Dorian in 1997 was 10-15 lbs heavier than in 1993 and looked like a "shadow" of his former self.  For this, there is no debate. ND, compare Dorian 1993 to Ronnie and we have a good show.  To compare Dorian from other years is a stretch at best.

The last pic is by far the most impressive pic I have ever seen.  For Sucky to even compare that atrocity known as a Most Muscular is laughable at best. 

[nicorulez]

Some more. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, just trying to state that Yate's arms are more balanced than Ronnie's is an utter joke.  In 2003, Ronnie brought to stage legit 23-24 inch arms that were vascular and tight.  Dorian's arms could never come close.  Remember, the tricep is approx. 60% if the size of the arm, and Ronnie has great triceps.  Granted, he does not show them to full effect like someone like Cutler, but Ronnie's arms blow Yate's arms out of the water.  For one thing, Yates has horrible biceps...this was evident pre-tear.  His forearms are nice, but the thickness near the wrist is attributable to his thick joints.  Ronnie's forearms are larger, but because of his smaller joints he has mroe of a taper.  Try to tell me that Dorian had bigger forearms than Ronnie in 2003.  Please, that is pure unadulterated delusion.  Oliver, Dorian's waist was disgusting after 1993.  He got it together one time for the 1995 Mr. Olympia, but he looked like complete garbage in 1994/1997.  His obliques were bulbous and hanging over his trunks.  This is not a taper.  Moreover, Ronnie can hold much more weight than Dorian with aesthetics.  Granted, Ronnie's waist in 2003 was not equal to his waist in 1998; however, Dorian in 1997 was 10-15 lbs heavier than in 1993 and looked like a "shadow" of his former self.  For this, there is no debate. ND, compare Dorian 1993 to Ronnie and we have a good show.  To compare Dorian from other years is a stretch at best.

The last pic is by far the most impressive pic I have ever seen.  For Sucky to even compare that atrocity known as a Most Muscular is laughable at best. 

Monster balance in those arms lol