Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

The fix was in; repugnant to see greats like Wheeler & Lavrone denied deserved better placings while instead elevating Yates to "legendary" status.

The fix was in ; repugnant to see Jay Cutler & Levrone denied deserved Mr Olympia titles in 2001 & 2002 while Ronnie Coleman claimed the title of the best bodybuilding on the planet. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

when is suckmyasshole going to realize that no one in the history of bodybuilding has been wider than Ronnie in 2003/4?

I disagree I think Fux is wider and maybe Dorian from the 97 Olympia

[pumpster]

The fix was in ; repugnant to see Jay Cutler & Levrone denied deserved Mr Olympia titles in 2001 & 2002 while Ronnie Coleman claimed the title of the best bodybuilding on the planet.

Again you relinquish believability entirely by fixating on particular contests with no acknowledgement whatever that Haney, Yates, Columbu & Dickerson were undeserving in some  instances. Start there with some badly needed balance, work forward and you'll generate some credibility for a change. As it stands you're as cogent as SUCKY.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Again you relinquish believability entirely by fixating on particular contests with no acknowledgement whatever that Haney, Yates, Columbu & Dickerson were undeserving in some  instances. Start there with some badly needed balance, work forward and you'll generate some credibility for a change. As it stands you're as cogent as SUCKY.

Wrong on all accounts my friend . I've aknowledged that Haney could have easily lost in 89/90 I again conceded that Dorian should have lost in 97 , and I personally don't think Franco should have ever won and Dickerson should have lost just based his elbows .

And again you start backing up your claims with more than just speculation & personal preference . 

[Necrosis]

dorians quads had no seperation, suckmymuscle. your arguments are retarded. ronnie is lightyears ahead of dorian, i chringe when i see dorians pyshique because it is perhaps the ugliest to every step foot on stage. he has no flow and his arms and quads suck, and his chest wasn't all that great.

[pumpster]

I've aknowledged that Haney could have easily lost in 89/90 I again conceded that Dorian should have lost in 97 , and I personally don't think Franco should have ever won and Dickerson should have lost just based his elbows .

That's half a loaf-this time complete the thought by viable explainations as to why these happened-Columbu twice world's best built man, Dickerson, Yates, etc. There are too many instances that make no sense.

Robinson, Fox, Padilla, Wheeler, Lavrone were as good or better than Haney or Yates; the list is too long.

[NeoSeminole]

Dorian's back looks wide but his arms look pathetic 

[the shadow]

Wheeler looks phenomenal but so did Coleman look that way earlier, but with far greater shoulder and lat width, much bigger thighs. Just bigger overall, that was evident with them standing together.

Also, Wheeler when he got bigger did not have Coleman's upper body detail, and was obviously using synthol in the delts.

synthol or not..flex was totally dwarfed by coleman and the other freaks..from every angel wheeler looked nothing special and too small..the guy looked like an amateur..he should carried on with his martial arts thing before he got into bodybuilding..if u don't believe me go and watch his 1997 arnold classic posing and he looked like a stick..and then compare him to paul dillet or nasser...
THEY LOOKED LIKE MONSTERS NEXT TO THIS KID FLEX WHEELER..WHEELER=A SMALL BITCH

[NarcissisticDeity]

That's half a loaf-this time complete the thought by viable explainations as to why these happened-Columbu twice world's best built man, Dickerson, Yates, etc. There are too many instances that make no sense.

Robinson, Fox, Padilla, Wheeler, Lavrone were as good or better than Haney or Yates; the list is too long.

Its your personal feelings those men were better not the judges and if you say the judges fixed the contest then they fixed for Coleman as well you can't have it both ways , it shows bias & hypocrisy

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian's back looks wide but his arms look pathetic 

Hmmm thats the contest he tore his tricep

[pumpster]

Its your personal feelings those men were better not the judges and if you say the judges fixed the contest then they fixed for Coleman as well you can't have it both ways , it shows bias & hypocrisy

He continues to say whatever's necessary to try to deflect. Nothing new-won't address the causes while admitting there have been some obvious problems.

Start justifying some of the most obvious pathetic decisions that you've admitted yourself, or accept that without any adquate explanations there's truth to them. Can't have it both ways.

[pobrecito]

He continues to say whatever's necessary to try to deflect. Nothing new-won't address reality.

Justify some of the most obvious pathetic decisions that you've admitted yourself, or accept that there is some truth to them. Can't have it both ways.

94 and 01 were pathetic. 2002 was even worse for Coleman as he was only 243lbs....at least he had size in 01 (265)....the difference was he faced a shitty field (as in 2004).

[NarcissisticDeity]

He continues to say whatever's necessary to try to deflect. Nothing new-won't address the causes while admitting there have been some obvious problems.

Start justifying some of the most obvious pathetic decisions that you've admitted yourself, or accept that without any adquate explanations there's truth to them. Can't have it both ways.

No no you can't have it both ways , you can't say the Weiders handpicked Yates to win in 94/97 and then in the same breath have the balls to say Ronnie won fair & square in 01/02 , when according to the people who matter , the judges 94/97 were NO WHERE near as close on their scorecards as 01/02 , the judges know more than pumpster .

you base contest results on your own personal feelings & preferences , you say Flex should have beat Dorian . WRONG . I'm a big Flex fan but he wasn't good enough in 93 and the other times they met he was off , so your motivation for saying Haney & Yates were gifted comes out of personal preference and bias , just because pumpster doesn't get doesn't mean Haney & Yates shouldn't have won . the judges know more than you.

[NarcissisticDeity]

94 and 01 were pathetic. 2002 was even worse for Coleman as he was only 243lbs....at least he had size in 01 (265)....the difference was he faced a shitty field (as in 2004).

2001 was the biggest joke , seriously right up there were 1980 . Jay wins both the symmetry & mucularity rounds goes into the nightshow ahead by 6 points and ' loses ' both of the posing rounds to Ronnie  I don't think it was a great pick but I DO NOT think it was a fix .

[pumpster]

2001 was the biggest joke , seriously right up there were 1980

Neither even close to either Columbu win, followed by Dickerson followed by a one-armed Yates wearing one of the most tasteless tan in a bottle formulations seen on stage. Quite clearly one of the other guys deserved to win in '97, not even debatable.

[pobrecito]

Cutler was robbed in 2001. Nobody can make an argument for ronnie in this pose.

[pumpster]

Cutler was robbed in 2001. Nobody can make an argument for ronnie in this pose.

It's completely misleading to use one shot as a basis for judging someone. Cutler also looked better than Coleman in some pics in last year's Olympia, but on TV it wasn't that close because structuraly he's just not in the same league.

On the other hand, Yates was an abortion in '97; no debating that someone else deserved it.

[pobrecito]

yeah buddy

[pobrecito]

ronnie was lucky cutler's back sucked

[pobrecito]

By your own admission pumpster, the front is more important than the back...and I think it's pretty clear Cutler won from the front and Ronnie's back was very very off from his '99 form....

[NarcissisticDeity]

Neither even close to either Columbu win, followed by Dickerson followed by a one-armed Yates wearing one of the most tasteless tan in a bottle formulations seen on stage. Quite clearly one of the other guys deserved to win in '97, not even debatable.

Let me get this straight you're basing he should have lost in 94 just based on a few scans from a magazine? lol and according to one of the I.F.B.B. judging chairs his torn biceps made absolutely no difference to his overall package . you go on about Dorian's torn bicep yet Ronnie has pathetic calves and thats okay? hypocrisy? at least a torn bicep can be hidden poor calves can't . and in 1997 he scored straight firsts so you're right it wasn't even debateable even though personally I thought he should have lost .

[NarcissisticDeity]

It's completely misleading to use one shot as a basis for judging someone. Cutler also looked better than Coleman in some pics in last year's Olympia, but on TV it wasn't that close because structuraly he's just not in the same league.

On the other hand, Yates was an abortion in '97; no debating that someone else deserved it.

LMFAO at the complete and utter hypocrite you post a single picture of Yates and declare he should have lost , yet the same standards you don't hold to Ronnie  get out of town . Ronnie lost in 2001 I know , you know and so does Ronnie .

[NarcissisticDeity]

By your own admission pumpster, the front is more important than the back...and I think it's pretty clear Cutler won from the front and Ronnie's back was very very off from his '99 form....

owned pumpster lol

[Hulkster]

Let me get this straight you're basing he should have lost in 94 just based on a few scans from a magazine? l

no, there is a video of a prejuding comparison on youtube...

man, have you ignored EVERY video posted on this thread?

dorian looked like shit in 1994 - on video and in the pics.

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, there is a video of a prejuding comparison on youtube...

man, have you ignored EVERY video posted on this thread?

dorian looked like shit in 1994 - on video and in the pics.

 

I have the WHOLE contest on tape kid , the judges spoke and Shawn was lucky he got second , how you can say he should have beaten Dorian when Shawn said he got the place he deserved and he ONLY surpassed Kevin on posing and NOT by virtue of his phsyique.