Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

Facts have been provided on many things and are deliberately ignored so as to prolong the furious back-peddling which is all that he has left. hahahahhahaha

Again what you you personally provided in the way of proof? nothing . Natural Al exposed you for what you are an idiot. you post pictures of Yates at his worse to studio shots of Ronnie is that your idea of proof?   you go on and on about how contests are all fixed EXCEPT any of Ronnies is that your proof? when confronted over your baseless claims you run from the argument and pray no one brings it up again , that right there is proof that you have nothing . you've been exposed .  

Yes sa !! I got 300 !! another milestone in Yates domination .

[suckmymuscle]

Again you criticize the O to no end but when challenged to discuss your "winner" from that contest you conveniently slip away for a few days becuase you know who ever you choose can be ripped apart just as much if not more than you do of ronnie.

  Ok, you bitter queen. Point where is it that I was "challenged" and I will respond. I'm still replying to PF's posts from 100 pages ago, so that might take a while...oh, and by the way, I wasn't absent; it's just that I took several hours writing the last few replies to PF. I'm not like you, who isn't even a part of this discussion, popping up here every once in a while to give your 2 cent...

As for dorian winning 95 O, you can argue either way.. I have it on video, if only a could post screencaps of this and the appalling 94 fiasco i would and it would shut up some dorian fans.

  Dorian had the best package of any Mr.Olympia, ever, at that contest. Well, maybe with the exeption of Oliva.

Make no mistake he displayed a gut which none of his contempories did but he had awesome conditioning.

  Dorian did not have a gut at that contest, and I dare you to prove otherwise. Actually, Dorian brought the best conditioning and abdominal separation of any Mr. Olympia. A gut at 250+ lbs? I think you are refering to the 1999 Ronnie.

This is whats upsetting. You have guys like flex, shawnnm levrone and nasser who all reached their peaks in the mid nineties.

  Nope. Dorian's combination of hard-rok mass with perfect balance was unbeatable; he claerly won that contest. Did I mention that he got straight-firsts from all judges on all the mandatories?

Their crime? They simply hit them at the wrong time. A time when the judges saw it fit to award the ugliest physique.

  Another conspiracy theory...you're starting to sound more and more like Poop.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NeoSeminole]

I'm still waiting for Suckymydick to respond to this post:

There are several reasons. For starters, Ronnie's distended gut, which he had at the 2003 Olympia, immediately makes him lose the symmetry round flat out, by official I.F.B.B criteria. It's as simple as that, really. The fact that he got straight firsts is an outrage against bodybuilding. Like I've mentioned before, Dorian was fantastic at the 1997 Olympia: his muscular fullness was at it's all-time best and he still had his trademarked conditioning - superb hardness and dryness. And yet, I still think that his distended midsection - which was still much, much better than Ronnie's at the 2003 rendition of the contest - was a liability severe enough for him to lose. I still think he deserved to win, because his abdominal distension was not that bad and his muscularity was so dominant, but I'm more than willing to accept the judges decision if they decided to give the victory, at that contest, to another bodybuilder.

Are you shitting me? Dorian's gut in 97 was even worse than Ronnie's gut in 03.

Symmetry round - Dorian wins: he has a tighter midsection and more separated abdominals and serratus. His calves are in proportion to his quadriceps. Dorian's triceps, biceps and forearms are all in balance, whereas in Ronnie's case, the entire arms are overpowered by the biceps...just like his monstrous quadriceps overpower his defective calves - and especially the soleus.

As you can see, Dorian's gut was bigger than Ronnie's when it mattered. Dorian also had crappy triceps to match his medicore biceps. Look at the second pic of Dorian. Asymmetrical, unbalanced arms are WORSE than unbalanced calves anyday. Ronnie would win the symmetry round.

[pumpster]

Quote from: sculpture on Today at 04:56:42 PM
Again you criticize the O to no end but when challenged to discuss your "winner" from that contest you conveniently slip away for a few days becuase you know who ever you choose can be ripped apart just as much if not more than you do of ronnie.

  Ok, you bitter queen. Point where is it that I was "challenged" and I will respond. I'm still replying to PF's posts from 100 pages ago, so that might take a while...oh, and by the way, I wasn't absent; it's just that I took several hours writing the last few replies to PF. I'm not like you, who isn't even a part of this discussion, popping up here every once in a while to give your 2 cent...


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As for dorian winning 95 O, you can argue either way.. I have it on video, if only a could post screencaps of this and the appalling 94 fiasco i would and it would shut up some dorian fans.

  Dorian had the best package of any Mr.Olympia, ever, at that contest. Well, maybe with the exeption of Oliva.


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Make no mistake he displayed a gut which none of his contempories did but he had awesome conditioning.

  Dorian did not have a gut at that contest, and I dare you to prove otherwise. Actually, Dorian brought the best conditioning and abdominal separation of any Mr. Olympia. A gut at 250+ lbs? I think you are refering to the 1999 Ronnie.


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This is whats upsetting. You have guys like flex, shawnnm levrone and nasser who all reached their peaks in the mid nineties.

  Nope. Dorian's combination of hard-rok mass with perfect balance was unbeatable; he claerly won that contest. Did I mention that he got straight-firsts from all judges on all the mandatories?


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Their crime? They simply hit them at the wrong time. A time when the judges saw it fit to award the ugliest physique.

  Another conspiracy theory...you're starting to sound more and more like Poop.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

INCREDIBLE...ALL THIS AND YET NONE OF IT MAKES ANY SENSE..hahahaahah

[sculpture]

 Ok, you bitter queen. Point where is it that I was "challenged" and I will respond. I'm still replying to PF's posts from 100 pages ago, so that might take a while...oh, and by the way, I wasn't absent; it's just that I took several hours writing the last few replies to PF. I'm not like you, who isn't even a part of this discussion, popping up here every once in a while to give your 2 cent...

  Dorian had the best package of any Mr.Olympia, ever, at that contest. Well, maybe with the exeption of Oliva.

  Dorian did not have a gut at that contest, and I dare you to prove otherwise. Actually, Dorian brought the best conditioning and abdominal separation of any Mr. Olympia. A gut at 250+ lbs? I think you are refering to the 1999 Ronnie.

  Nope. Dorian's combination of hard-rok mass with perfect balance was unbeatable; he claerly won that contest. Did I mention that he got straight-firsts from all judges on all the mandatories?

  Another conspiracy theory...you're starting to sound more and more like Poop.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I know pumpster, what a loser he acts like.

Still replying to PF's posts from a hundred pages ago? Spending 2 hrs to write.

Why? He's not responding to any of them.

You look like an idiot frankly, taking so long to write something that garners little respone. Find something better to do with your time

95 O is the best package ever. With a torn muscle? I think you'll find no one agrees with you here except the voices you hear in your head chichi.

[suckmymuscle]

becuase he faced inferior competition.

  I can use the same argument to justify Dorian wnning in 1997. I mean, if you're going to ignore Ronnie's distended midsetion from 2004, which was muh wore than Dorian in 1997, then Dorian clearly won that contest, too. Hey, at least Dorian was still rock-hard and had super-dry...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

Ronnie in 1998 just barely beat Flex Wheeler by 3 points that is one of the closest Mr Olympia contests in memory he was very lucky they didn't go with Flex on name alone.

yes but HAD Ronnie not been overlooked going into the contest and HAD Flex not practically had his name written on the sandow, would it have really been that close?

common observation says:









no way in hell it should have been.

ND - you can't seem to admit that sometimes the judges make bad calls. You take every point and scorecard at face value without actually looking deeper.

You go on about how Ronnie barely beat Flex without realizing that had flex not had the momentum and had ronnie not been overlooked, it would not have been nearly as close.

look at these shots - not only is ronnie way way wider, he makes the synthol filled Flex look smooth.  Look at how watery flex looks in the double bi and side chest!

you can't seem to use your own judgement.  You go by numbers without actually LOOKING at the physiques in question or the REASONS why the scores were written as they were.

HINT: the scorecards do not always reflect the physiques or the closeness in the physiques.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I'm still waiting for Suckymydick to respond to this post:

Are you shitting me? Dorian's gut in 97 was even worse than Ronnie's gut in 03.

As you can see, Dorian's gut was bigger than Ronnie's when it mattered. Dorian also had crappy triceps to match his medicore biceps. Look at the second pic of Dorian. Asymmetrical, unbalanced arms are WORSE than unbalanced calves anyday. Ronnie would win the symmetry round.

No Dorian's waist was wider his GUT wasn't bigger not by a long shot , but see Dorian always had a wide waist thats nothing new Ronnie had a tiny waist & hips .

Now compare these to Dorian who is actually pushing his gut out while doing a back shot , his GUT is NO WHERE near Colemans and a shot of Yates relaxed onstage , Ronnie gut is the worse of any Mr Olympia by far without a doubt.

[sculpture]

No Dorian's waist was wider his GUT wasn't bigger not by a long shot , but see Dorian always had a wide waist thats nothing new Ronnie had a tiny waist & hips .

Now compare these to Dorian who is actually pushing his gut out while doing a back shot , his GUT is NO WHERE near Colemans and a shot of Yates relaxed onstage , Ronnie gut is the worse of any Mr Olympia by far without a doubt.

If anything that those pics prove, is that ronne has better shapes tris than dorian. 

[alexxx]

AWESOME PAGE 300 !! LETS GO CELEBRATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes but HAD Ronnie not been overlooked going into the contest and HAD Flex not practically had his name written on the sandow, would it have really been that close?

common observation says:



no way in hell it should have been.

ND - you can't seem to admit that sometimes the judges make bad calls. You take every point and scorecard at face value without actually looking deeper.

You go on about how Ronnie barely beat Flex without realizing that had flex not had the momentum and had ronnie not been overlooked, it would not have been nearly as close.

look at these shots - not only is ronnie way way wider, he makes the synthol filled Flex look smooth.  Look at how watery flex looks in the double bi and side chest!

you can't seem to use your own judgement.  You go by numbers without actually LOOKING at the physiques in question or the REASONS why the scores were written as they were.

HINT: the scorecards do not always reflect the physiques or the closeness in the physiques.

You're so full of it   stop with this Ronnie was overlooked fantasy he won the prejudging how the F was he overlooked? how? you can't respond to that . you clearly don't know the judging criteria you're way to emotionally wrapped up in Ronnie to even admit he was a very lucky bodybuilder in 1998 .

[NarcissisticDeity]

If anything that those pics prove, is that ronne has better shapes tris than dorian. 

Wow maybe because Dorian's is torn lol great logic now I know why you're a Coleman fan lol

[NeoSeminole]

No Dorian's waist was wider his GUT wasn't bigger not by a long shot , but see Dorian always had a wide waist thats nothing new Ronnie had a tiny waist & hips .

Now compare these to Dorian who is actually pushing his gut out while doing a back shot , his GUT is NO WHERE near Colemans and a shot of Yates relaxed onstage , Ronnie gut is the worse of any Mr Olympia by far without a doubt.

You must have reading comprehension problems. Here is the exact quote I said:
 
"As you can see, Dorian's gut was bigger than Ronnie's when it mattered." The last time I checked, standing-relaxed backstage wasn't one of the mandatory poses.  

[suckmymuscle]

I'm still waiting for Suckymydick to respond to this post:

Are you shitting me? Dorian's gut in 97 was even worse than Ronnie's gut in 03.













As you can see, Dorian's gut was bigger than Ronnie's when it mattered. Dorian also had crappy triceps to match his medicore biceps. Look at the second pic of Dorian. Asymmetrical, unbalanced arms are WORSE than unbalanced calves anyday. Ronnie would win the symmetry round.

  NeodrinkmySemen, you piece of shit moron, I have already posted evidence from the 1997 Olympia comparing Dorian to Ronnie, and have showed that Dorian has better abs than Ronnie. Distension? You must be kidding, right? Ronnie was no classical ideal of bodybuilding at that contest, you ignorant asshole...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[sculpture]

Wow maybe because Dorian's is torn lol great logic now I know why you're a Coleman fan lol

Once you again, you prove incapable of seeing the funny side in anything.

Yawn.

[sculpture]

 NeodrinkmySemen, you piece of shit moron, I have already posted evidence from the 1997 Olympia comparing Dorian to Ronnie, and have showed that Dorian has better abs than Ronnie. Distension? You must be kidding, right? Ronnie was no classical ideal of bodybuilding at that contest, you ignorant asshole...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Be consistent boy.

You re arguing over 2003 ronnie and 1997 dorian so quit posting the "hands up in the air if you hear me shot" from the 2004 olympia

[NarcissisticDeity]

You must have reading comprehension problems. Here is the exact quote I said:
 
"As you can see, Dorian's gut was bigger than Ronnie's when it mattered." The last time I checked, standing-relaxed backstage wasn't one of the mandatory poses.  

Consider yourself owned   Coleman onstage and his gut in all its glory and have you actually seen the 2003 Mr Olympia? I have and all I have to say is " raise the roof " and you'll see that gut hanging out way worse than ANYTHING Yates ever showed .

[NarcissisticDeity]

Once you again, you prove incapable of seeing the funny side in anything.

Yawn.

Oh believe me I offten laugh at most comments Coleman fans make lol 

[Hulkster]

ronnie in 2004 still looking better than Yates..

[alexxx]

Ronnie looking good!

[sculpture]

Consider yourself owned   Coleman onstage and his gut in all its glory and have you actually seen the 2003 Mr Olympia? I have and all I have to say is " raise the roof " and you'll see that gut hanging out way worse than ANYTHING Yates ever showed .

Close but no cigar. You wouldnt actually be able to see in his stomach in that pose unless the judges were sat behind the competitors.

Thats no different to the yates shot from 97 with his back to the crowd or the 94 b and w's which shot yates gut in all its glory (94 remember, setting teh standard for guts to come, he really was ahead of his game hahahahah).

[NarcissisticDeity]

Distended GUT in prejudging 2003 Mr Olympia notice his convexed abs VS Cutlers concaved .

[Hulkster]

You're so full of it   stop with this Ronnie was overlooked fantasy he won the prejudging how the F was he overlooked? how? you can't respond to that . you clearly don't know the judging criteria you're way to emotionally wrapped up in Ronnie to even admit he was a very lucky bodybuilder in 1998 .

yes I can: no one ever considered the slightest possiblity that Ronnie would win the Mr. Olympia that year.

Everyone and their Uncle said Flex would win.

That gives the judges a pre-disposition to score Flex higher than he deserved.

and judging by his synthol filled and watery physique, it worked.

You can't tell me that those shots make it look like it was that close.

Ronnie makes Flex look narrow and smooth in 1998.

[sculpture]

ronnie in 2004 still looking better than Yates..

Small traps and twig forearms

[jandal.ninja]

300 bloody pages and it still isn't settled!