Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[pumpster]

Yates again completely devoid of arm cuts, separation or refinement in front shots, all of which Coleman has along with huge size Yates does not have. Yates being demolished; note also the huge size discrepancy in trap size. He looks pathetic in comparison.

[pobrecito]

Stop drooling over Yates long enough to finally accept that your assessments are those of a groupie and lack balanced perspectives.

Main Entry: hyp·o·crite
Pronunciation: 'hi-p&-"krit
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English ypocrite, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin hypocrita, from Greek hypokritEs actor, hypocrite, from hypokrinesthai
1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

[pumpster]

Quote from: pumpster on Today at 07:33:41 PM
Stop drooling over Yates long enough to finally accept that your assessments are those of a groupie and lack balanced perspectives.

Main Entry: hyp·o·crite
Pronunciation: 'hi-p&-"krit
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English ypocrite, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin hypocrita, from Greek hypokritEs actor, hypocrite, from hypokrinesthai
1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

Thanks you're right; he's all of that too..

[nicorulez]

your a nerd shut the fck up and dopnt reply to anything i post. i bet your a virgin huh... go masturbate and calm down pu$sy.

Nerd, this from a dipshit who can't even write coherently.  Listen dickhead.  If being educated and making more in one year than you make in a decade makes me a nerd, so be it.  Instead of casting stones asswipe, why don't you graduate high school first and then try to debate those far more intelligent than yourself. 

[nicorulez]

Brutal Ownage by Suckmymuscle.

This is ownage?  Where the fuck does it state in Flex that these experts proofread articles.  As Praetor clearly points out, only one is a PhD and he is a doctorate of nutrition.  Please, he wouldn't know a latissmus dorsi from a rectus femoris.  Please, the idiocy and stupidity of these fools is amazing.  You people need to read a little and educate yourself.  Flex is not a peer reviewed publication.  It is a bodybuilding mag that caters to typical gym rats who wouldn't know a rhomboid from a sphenoid.  PhD's reviewing Peter McGough's article...I thought I heard it all...LOLOLOLOL

[pobrecito]

Ronnie looks a little bloated here

[pobrecito]

The size difference between 99 and 2003 as illustrated here is just mind blowing - Yates could never beat 2003 coleman becuase of the size - but the quality is much better in 99 IMO

[suckmymuscle]

Ronnie looks a little bloated here

  Oh, my pic beats yours in the category "puffiest, flattest Mr.Olympia ever".

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[pumpster]

Ronnie looks a little bloated here

Agreed, yet he still looks impressive thanx to wide shoulders, lats and overall hugeness.

Yates on the other hand, had little of that to counter the bloat.

[pobrecito]

Coleman was pathetic in 2002.

[pobrecito]

[pumpster]

All you guys are doing is showing pics in which Coleman looks pretty decent considering that he wasn't at his best. Also are confirming what already been comprehended by all but the cognitively-challenged-that at his worst Coleman still had ample taper whereas Yates had a H-taper and looked heinous. 

Basically they both had guts which looked bad, but Coleman always had more shoulder and lat width to counterbalance it, plus a naturally slimmer waist. Not that his waist didn't get bigger, but factoring in the shoulder and lat size he had, he still never looked like this in contests!!

[pobrecito]

[suckmymuscle]

author=Praetor Fenix link=topic=69359.msg1271814#msg1271814 date=1155318404]
Who are these random fa.ggots that keep dropping by?

No doubt recruited by suckmymuscle himself to lend a few positive words of support and encouragement.

  Nope. Unlike you, Huckster and Co, I do need anyone to agree with me to validate my opinion.

Seriously, you two have never posted in the thread before and you haven't participated in the debate previously.

  Never posted here before? Please...he posted here on page one, whereas you joined the debate on page 90 or so...

Obviously you haven't read my responses either.
Typical sycophantic post-whores.

  What if he did and though it all to be a subjected and clearly biased assesment of Ronnie? I mean, saying that the abdominal distension, that Ronnie had at the 2003 Olympia, dis not represent a liability in the symmetry round...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NeoSeminole]

 

[pobrecito]

ronnie loses on virtue of calf implant

[pobrecito]

Neo, why are you so infatuated with Ronnie in 2003? His quality was definitely down from 99 as illustrated in this picture. He was much sharper in 99....or maybe you just know that Dorian in 93 is too much for 99 ronnie to handle

[NeoSeminole]

Neo, why are you so infatuated with Ronnie in 2003? His quality was definitely down from 99 as illustrated in this picture. He was much sharper in 99....or maybe you just know that Dorian in 93 is too much for 99 ronnie to handle.

I believe that pic of Ronnie in the virtual posedown is from the 2001 ASC. The reason I use the 03 Ronnie for comparison is b/c I feel his muscularity is too much for Dorian to handle. I used to argue in favor of 99 Ronnie, but I got tired of listening to ND's "numbers" argument. I figured there is no way in hell ND can ignore Ronnie's substantial weight advantage. The only version of Dorian that could compete with 03 Ronnie would be his 95 form. However, Dorian had a torn biceps and was over 20 lbs lighter. He also didn't have the same conditioning he presented in 93. Ronnie's combination of mass, conditioning, and symmetry would overwhelm Dorian.

[pumpster]

ronnie loses on virtue of calf implant

What's hilarilious is how dominant Coleman is over Yates in those last few pics yet all he can do is resort to a focus on imagined "calf implants". Delusional.

[IceCold]

What's hilarilious is how dominant Coleman is over Yates in those last few pics yet all he can do is resort to a focus on imagined "calf implants". Delusional.

hilarious according to you.  delusional. 

[pobrecito]

All we know for sure is that Dorian beat Ronnie 8 times which is everytime they went head to head. Had Dorian continued on and not been injured, he still would have beaten Ronnie. He would have won in 98, 99, and got his 9th sandow in 2000 to break Haney's record. Then Cutler would have won in 2001. Coleman would have never been Mr. O

[nicorulez]

Prosciutto, how the hell do you think Dorian would have continued to win in 1998/1999.  He looked like absolute ass in 1997.  He was subpar in 1996 and Nasser would have beaten him if he had half of Ronnie's back.  In 1998, in a "fair" show, Ronnie would have owned Dorian.  Now, I agree that a Dorian condiitioned like he was in 1993 would have a been a force, but he got progressively worse as the years wore on.  If you are being hypothetical about a 1993 Dorian never getting injured and continuing on, I agree he would have been very tough to beat.  However, he did not go injury free, so your point is moot.  I could state the same thing that a Ronnie in 2003 and continuing in that vein would never be beaten.    Hypotheticals are bullshit and deserve no place in this conversation.  Dorian was gifted at least two Mr. Olympias and looked very average in 50% of his wins.  Also, the heavier Dorian got the worse he looked.  He does not have the genetics or frame that Ronnie has to carry the extra mass.

[healthiswealth]

The worst argument to date is this "dorian beat Ronnie 8 times" argument. The most brainless retort I have ever heard. Bodybuilders like flex, chris cormier, nasser, dillet, levrone and many others have ALL beaten ronnie. Heck, I think even bob chick has beaten ronnie. Does that make them better than him? jesus f*cking christ, grow a brain 

[pobrecito]

Prosciutto, how the hell do you think Dorian would have continued to win in 1998/1999.  He looked like absolute ass in 1997.  He was subpar in 1996 and Nasser would have beaten him if he had half of Ronnie's back.  In 1998, in a "fair" show, Ronnie would have owned Dorian.  Now, I agree that a Dorian condiitioned like he was in 1993 would have a been a force, but he got progressively worse as the years wore on.  If you are being hypothetical about a 1993 Dorian never getting injured and continuing on, I agree he would have been very tough to beat.  However, he did not go injury free, so your point is moot.  I could state the same thing that a Ronnie in 2003 and continuing in that vein would never be beaten.    Hypotheticals are bullshit and deserve no place in this conversation.  Dorian was gifted at least two Mr. Olympias and looked very average in 50% of his wins.  Also, the heavier Dorian got the worse he looked.  He does not have the genetics or frame that Ronnie has to carry the extra mass.

I work under the assumption that the Mr. Olympia never loses simply becuase of politics. In my opinion, if the Olympia DID NOT have dynasties (e.g. Haney, Yates, Coleman) it would not be what it is. It would just be another plain jane show with no prestige.

[pobrecito]

This is what Dorian did to the competition