Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[suckmymuscle]

Plus, that picture is from the 2004 olympia.

  I can't tell the difference between two balls of poo...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

 

[suckmymuscle]

By the way, how are you guys doing?!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NeoSeminole]

Ronnie 2003 wasn't even good, let alone great. This should not be the standard-bearer. A Mr.Olympia an't look like like a pregnant water-buffalo, or a character rom the film "Alien", ho's impregnated with an alien queen.

Dorian at the 95 Mr. Olympia



Ronnie at the 03 Mr. Olympia weighing over 20 more lbs

[Hulkster]

please tell me dorian's twigs arms are morphed in that pic?
if not, that is really, really sad for someone who "dominated" like he did.

I still find it incredible that ND has the audacity to look at that shot, with tiny arms, wide waist and huge calves that are bigger than his arms (almost!) and then say he has great balance - better than this:


 

after 350+ pages, I think ND is the only one who thinks Ronnie is so unbalanced like he says he is.  Ronnie's calves are out of balance...thats it.  ND has a whole list of OTHER reasons than only he, with his ironage blindfold, can see..

but then again, ND is off somewhere sucking dorian's cock, so I guess its all water under the bridge now!
 

[Hulkster]

A Mr.Olympia an't look like like a pregnant water-buffalo, or a character rom the film "Alien", ho's impregnated with an alien queen.

then that means your hero dorian should not have been either...

[pumpster]

Quote from Peter McGough, FLEX, 2004:

  "No bodybuilder has ever been as hard and conditioned as the man who won six Sandows."

Only sheep like SUCKY and ND would bother with one-sided IFBB/Weider dogma like this in support of their contest decisions-is conditioning all that matters? Hardly. McGough should be one of the first to acknowledge that Yates is also highly flawed re: balance (undersized arms), structure (wide waist) lack of aesthetics, almost completely bereft of cuts or refinement, let alone muscle maturity or good shape, in front upper body shots..

If you know anything about BB, don't immediately discredit yourself by harping only on conditioning and hardness while pretending that he wasn't enormously flawed.

Dillet thrashing Yates once again in front shots, the same way Coleman would-it's embarassing that the IFBB allowed this garbage. Once again the delts & smallish arms are accompanied by virtually *no* detail, cuts or refinement.

[Hulkster]

If you know anything about BB, don't immediately discredit yourself by harping only on conditioning and hardness while pretending that he wasn't enormously flawed.

well said.

[suckmymuscle]

then that means your hero dorian should not have been either...

  No, this is not a water-buffalo! This pic is from the 1996 Olympia. I'll match this abs-and-thighs of Dorian's against Ronnie's at both the 1998 and 1999 Olympia any day. Show me a similar shot, of Ronnie, where his midsection is as tight as this, and where his abs and serratus are this cut. You can't. You just can't get any better than this...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

Only sheep like SUCKY and ND would bother with one-sided IFBB/Weider dogma like this in support of their contest decisions.

  McGough also said Ronnie's 2001 ASC form was the best he's ever seen, so you're in no position to claim he's "biased".

If you know anything about BB, don't immediately discredit yourself by harping only on conditioning and hardness while pretending that he wasn't enormously flawed.

  I was responding to Hulkster, who claimed Ronnie's 1999 Olympia form had better conditioning than Dorian. Anyway, what about Ronnie's flaws? What about his lack of calves, disproportionally large glutes, distended midsection, poor abdominal and serratus separations and long torso in relation to his legs? These are called liabilities, my friend.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[pobrecito]

Sucky is correct in his midsection statement. At the 98 and 99 Olympias as seen on video, Ronnie midsection was horrible in terms of detail. When he went to hit an ab shot, not detail or anything popped out. In contrast, Dorian's midsection in 93 was awesome, if he did have a wide waist or bloated obliques he hid it very well in his posing routine!

With that being said, a detailed midsection and calves are never enough to make up for inferior quads, arms, and chest. In my opinion, Ronnie and Dorian's back's (99 v 93) are too close to call, they are extremely similar).

[delta9mda]

dorian yates was the best mr o ever.
he competed as a pro 17 times. won 15 of those 17 and got 2 second places. beat that beatches!!!!!
got 2 place in his first mr o(only 2-3 others in that group).

[pumpster]

he competed as a pro 17 times. won 15 of those 17 and got 2 second places. beat that beatches!!!!!

Reciting history has nothing to do with these realities:

[Hulkster]

Ronnie midsection was horrible in terms of detail

and still his ab and thigh looked decent. not great, but decent.

the same exact phrase can be used to describe dorian's front double bi.

[pobrecito]

and still his ab and thigh looked decent. not great, but decent.

the same exact phrase can be used to describe dorian's front double bi.

it's decent, but he was pretty much blown out of the water with Flex hitting the Ab-Thigh next to him. That was the only pose he lost in 99 IMO>

[suckmymuscle]

and still his ab and thigh looked decent. not great, but decent.

the same exact phrase can be used to describe dorian's front double bi.

  I stand incorrected! Dorian's midsection truly was better than Ronnie's even when Coleman was at his lighter weights! So much for Ronnie's "superior aesthetics and shape"!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NeoSeminole]

Apparently, Suckmydick thinks it's okay for him to attack a pic of Ronnie when he's not flexing

Ronnie 2003 wasn't even good, let alone great. This should not be the standard-bearer. A Mr.Olympia an't look like like a pregnant water-buffalo, or a character rom the film "Alien", ho's impregnated with an alien queen.

but takes offense when someone returns the favor. He desparately tries to counter by posting a shot of Dorian flexing while simultaneously ignoring the unflattering pic of his hero.

No, this is not a water-buffalo! This pic is from the 1996 Olympia. I'll match this abs-and-thighs of Dorian's against Ronnie's at both the 1998 and 1999 Olympia any day. Show me a similar shot, of Ronnie, where his midsection is as tight as this, and where his abs and serratus are this cut. You can't. You just can't get any better than this.

[NeoSeminole]

Oh yeah...



with cross-striations to boot!!!

[suckmymuscle]

Apparently, Suckmydick thinks it's okay for him to attack a pic of Ronnie when he's not flexing

but takes offense when someone returns the favor. He desparately tries to counter by posting a shot of Dorian flexing while simultaneously ignoring the unflattering pic of his hero.

  Ok, you idiot. Here they're both flexing. Now, tell me who's got the best abs-and-thighs...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NeoSeminole]

Ok, you idiot. Here they're both flexing. Now, tell me who's got the best abs-and-thighs...

Congratulations, you completely missed the crux of my post! I wasn't comparing who looks better in an abs-and-thighs pose. My point is that your arguments are weak. You repeatedly posts the worst pics of Ronnie you can find in a lame attempt to "prove" Dorian is better. Only a dolt such as yourself can rationalize how this makes for a compelling argument. When someone responds with an even worse pic of Dorian and beats you at your own game, you ignore it like it never happened.

By the way, I believe this is yours?

[Hulkster]

sucky, having better abs does not mean you have better shape than someone if your arms, delts, chest, quads, waist and taper are ALL not nearly as shapely.



you should be able to realize this by now.

[delta9mda]

Reciting history has nothing to do with these realities:

the reality is he squashed all and ronnie too. over and over and over. hahahaha bitches! and the people that did beat yates are either retired or dead.

[Hulkster]

of course he squashed Ronnie.

Ronnie looked like this at the time:



Guess what?


things changed.

[delta9mda]

yes sir and it must eat you at night to know as you sleep with one eye open, sweating bullets in your nightmare that ronnie never beat yates. ever. 

[Hulkster]

yes sir and it must eat you at night to know as you sleep with one eye open, sweating bullets in your nightmare that ronnie never beat yates. ever. 

no, I think about how if Shawn, Ronnie and Flex all had faced Dorian while at their peaks with proper, unbiased-by-not-being-friends-with-Peter-McGough-judging, Dorian would been fourth!

[IceCold]

You repeatedly posts the worst pics of Ronnie you can find in a lame attempt to "prove" Dorian is better. Only a dolt such as yourself can rationalize how this makes for a compelling argument. When someone responds with an even worse pic of Dorian and beats you at your own game, you ignore it like it never happened.

By the way, I believe this is yours?

same exact thing hulkster, pumpster, etc. have done with dorian.  posting a relaxed pic form the 94 Olympia or 96 English Grand prix trying to prove how much better ronnie is and how 'overated' dorian was.