Dorian may beat Ronnie (I disagree), but he certainly doesn't destroy Ronnie.
Not only would Dorian defeat Ronnie in the side triceps comparison, but it wouldn't even be close. The fact that you prefer the 2003 Ronnie goes to show what a boybuilding newbo you are. The 2003 Ronnie might have the bigger triceps, but Dorian's triceps is more striated, denser and more shapely. His forearms are more massive, even though he's outweighted by 30 lbs. So, while Ronnie might win in triceps muscularity, he loses in everything else. Consider that, in this mandatory, Dorian's calves is more massive than Ronnie's and his serratus, which are visible in this shot, are more separated. So, Dorian takes Ronnie out in triceps and deltoid shape, calve muscularity and also in symmetry, because Dorian's gut is flat an his serratus are visible. The
only thing Ronnie has on Dorian, in this shot, is triceps size, by a small margin. Ronnie's triceps might be bigger, but Dorian's has a triangular shape Ronnie can only dream of and is muh more striated. Putting Dorian's symmetrical advantage into the equation, there's no question about it: Dorian takes it. This is the last time I've addressed this. It's pointless to argue this with you because,ust like PraetorFenix, you believe that sheer muscle diameter is everything that matters. By this criteria, than the horrendous Ronnie from the 2004 Olympia would be even "better".
I'll match 03 Ronnie's front double biceps, rear double biceps, front lat spread, rear lat spread, side chest, side tri, and most muscular to 95 Dorian's any day! 
First of all, in an
unbiased show, Ronnie's gut distension would make him flat out lose the symmetry round, so there goes half the points! Remember that symmetry is measured by two things when it comes to a bodybuilding show: the relative size of the muscles in relation to each other and of the skeletal structure. Ronnie loses the symmetry roun flat out because his misection ruins the entire proportions of his physique, yes, but also because Ronnie has stumpish legs and a long torso. These are structural flaws Dorian doesen't have.
Now, I agree with you, that he 2003 Coleman, would defeat Dorian in overrall muscularity. but remember that musculariy, like symmetry, is not evaluated on it's own, but also in the context of the mandatories. And here is where Dorian destroys your boy. In most of the manatories, Ronnie's advantage in overrall muscularity men little, because he fails miserably in many other things.
Rear lat spread - Ronnie 2003 might have surpassed Dorian for latissimus width, ok, but the difference is far less dramatic than many of the Coleman fans makes it to be. Remember that if there's one area that the 257 lbs Dorian remained comparable to Ronnie, when the latter ballooned to 280+ lbs, was the back. Ronnie might have a slight advantage in width, but Dorian takes him out in christmas-tree thikness and overrall back separations. consider that Dorian's teres maor and minor, his latissimus and infra-spinatus are all isible, whih is not he case for the 2003 Ronnie. Dorian also has better balance in this mandatory, since, unlike Ronnie, he doesen't have a giant ass and his calves are diamond-shaped and massive whih is not the case for Coleman. The primary goal of this mandatory is to showcase lat width and Dorian can match Ronnie for that. And when you take into onsideration Dorian's superior back separations and balane, it's over for Ronnie.
Back double biceps- Ronnie has the better biceps, so he might win this one. Unfortunately for Coleman, he simply can't match Dorian in this shot for overrall details when he's over 280 lbs - the 249 lbs Ronnie from 1998 is a different story - and his giant ass and sub-par calves are isible as well. But since Ronald has the better biceps, I'll give you this one.
Side chest - I don't know how Ronnie is better in this shot. I think Dorian's pectoralis maor and minor are lerly separated and massive in this shot. Dorian's chest is also striated. Dorian has much better calves and his serratus is separated in this shot, which can't be said about Ronnie. Ronnie might have a slight advantage in pec bulge - which is ecpected, since he outweights Dorian by 30 lbs -, but it is far less dramati than you make it to be: Dorian's pecs were massive, full and round cantalous in this shot.
Side triceps -
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According to IFBB judging criteria, every muscle is surveyed in each mandatory pose. Just ask ND. He seems to think forearms, abs, and calves are just as important as chest, arms, and legs.
He is wrong about this: mandatories have the purpose of showcasing the muscular development and the quality of a specific muscle in a specific angle, and how this development is in proportion to the other muscles around it. For instance, Dorian defeats the 2003 Ronnie at everthing else in the back double biceps pose, but since the primary goal of this mandtory is to evaluate the development and quality of the biceps from behind, nd since Ronnie's biceps are superior to Dorian's both in size and quality, he takes this mandatory. Never mind that Dorian's middle back is thicker or that his upper back has more separations or that he is more symmetrical; Ronnie still takes it because his biceps are better. You lose...when you get ired of the pain, let me know, and I'll put you out of your misery.
Last time I checked, there was no pose with "calves" in the name.
Exactly the reason Ronnie is able to win or tie Dorian in the back double biceps or side chest, despite what his sub-par calves does to his overrall symmetry. Remember, however, that, as I said, muscularity and symmery are evaluated in the mandatories and in the relaxed round. While Ronnie's calves don't hinder him too much in the mandatories, it represents a severe liability in the relaxed round, both when it comes to overrall muscularity as well as symmetry.
Ronnie is sucking in his gut while he's posing? No shit!!! That has to top your list of idiotic comments in this thread. Every bodybuilder tries to minimize their flaws during judging. Show me 1 bodybuilder who purposely tries to stick out his gut. If Ronnie can hold in his stomach when it counts, then he shouldn't be penalized. It doesn't matter how far his gut protrudes backstage. By the way, I never said Ronnie's midsection is better. Nice little strawman there buddy!
The point, newbie, is that he word "relaxed" in the relaxed round means something. It doesen't matter how Ronnie is able to ontract his gut, becase the bottom line is that, even when contrcting, it still isn't flat. Dorian, conversely, at close to 260 lbs, still had a flat stomach and abominal an serratus separations that were as goo as Shawn Ray's(see below). Frankly, I've answered your sophomoric points before, when debating PraetorFenix, and I'm tired of quoting myself en absurdum.
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