Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[IceCold]

how did they use the argument. ronnie is 43 with injuries, the argument is who was a better bodybuilder if both at there peak the answer would be ronnie obviously and clearly.

obviously and clearly not.

ronnie this year showed us how he really is. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

<LOL> the dorian side is so fucking desperate they are now trying to say that because Ronnie lost at AGE 43 that dorian was better.

LOL


Ronnie was still winning Mr. Olympia's while dorian was sweeping up at the Arnold Expo booth pawning off cheap protein powder - all 140 pounds of him

and besides, Dorian could have just as easily lost to Shawn or Nasser.

In fact, given that Ronnie lost such a close battle and Dorian got killed by Nasser and Shawn and still won is even worse

Nasser and Shawn never came close to beating Dorian not according to the judges not according to bodybuilding history not according to the unbiased , Flex under the right set of circumstances but no one else , seriously.

This loss does tarnish Rpnnie's legacy coupled with the Gunther loss and the challenge round to Gustavo 

[IceCold]

This loss does tarnish Rpnnie's legacy coupled with the Gunther loss and the challenge round to Gustavo 

it should be LOSES to gustavo. 

lost 2 times to him in the challenge round. 

[Necrosis]

icecold you are a moron. so at 43 ronnie showed us who he really was. dumbest argument ever

[Shockwave]

<LOL> the dorian side is so fucking desperate they are now trying to say that because Ronnie lost at AGE 43 that dorian was better.

LOL


Ronnie was still winning Mr. Olympia's while dorian was sweeping up at the Arnold Expo booth pawning off cheap protein powder - all 140 pounds of him

and besides, Dorian could have just as easily lost to Shawn or Nasser.

In fact, given that Ronnie lost such a close battle and Dorian got killed by Nasser and Shawn and still won is even worse

Hahahah.
Obviously you missed the pics of Dorian on a scale this year weighing 250. Somewhere, right now, Dorian is laughing. Laughing because of how much of a sore loser Ronnie is.

[IceCold]

icecold you are a moron. so at 43 ronnie showed us who he really was. dumbest argument ever

it was sarcasm. 

[IceCold]

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=99387.0

[Hulkster]

Nasser and Shawn never came close to beating Dorian not according to the judges not according to bodybuilding history not according to the unbiased

but according to the pics and videos

It is obvious to everyone that Jay did not exactly win by a landslide, yet the score seem to indicate this.

but if you look at all the threads on Jay vs ronnie, everyone says the same thing:

It was close  - both from the back and front.

Does it not strike you as odd that the score sheets show a dominant victory when all the pics and videos show that it was not?

oh, wait, you guys think dorian at his best was better than ronnie at his best - I forgot - you don't place much stock in pics and videos

[Shockwave]

I forgot - you don't place much stock in pics and videos [/b]

Now your getting it! 

[pumpster]

Basically Yates was better on kneepads with uncle Joe.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=98084.0

[NarcissisticDeity]

but according to the pics and videos

It is obvious to everyone that Jay did not exactly win by a landslide, yet the score seem to indicate this.

but if you look at all the threads on Jay vs ronnie, everyone says the same thing:

It was close  - both from the back and front.

Does it not strike you as odd that the score sheets show a dominant victory when all the pics and videos show that it was not?

oh, wait, you guys think dorian at his best was better than ronnie at his best - I forgot - you don't place much stock in pics and videos

Pics and videos seen with biased eyes see what they want ! Hulkster you continue to use the Argumentum ad Populum as some soft of proof and its NOT Hulkster this is faulty logic period , most Germans agreed with Hitler veiw the Jews were evil and needed to be exterminated does that mean they were right? Leni Riefenstahl made pictures and videos of how the Jews were infecting the master race were they right?

I know you're saying this is a harsh analogy but it applies when the masses agree if something if right it doesn't mean it is ! The same judges who awarded Yates all his wins are the same ones who awarded Ronnie his , and the judges own you and your biased opinions , Dorian Yates was never in danger of losing his Mr Olympia title , he was one of the most dominant pro bodybuilders EVER and history proved that , reguardless of what your anti-Dorian stance is. 

[pumpster]

Dorian Yates was never in danger of losing his Mr Olympia title

Utter speculation; we don't know and will never know what happens before each and every Olympia that has led to some very suspect decisions including some of the Yates abortions.

What's interesting is that finally the IFBB departed from business as usual; would be interesting to know why it happened now vs. during Yates, Haney or Columbu debacles.

To recap:

Yates:      6 olympias
Coleman    8 olympias (so far)

[NarcissisticDeity]

Utter speculation; we don't know and will never know what happens before each and every Olympia that has led to some very suspect decisions including some of the Yates abortions.

What's interesting is that finally the IFBB departed from business as usual; would be interesting to know why it happened now vs. during Yates, Haney or Columbu debacles.

To recap:

Yates:      6 olympias
Coleman    8 olympias (so far)

Wrong utter fact ! utter history  Dorian one of the most dominant bodybuilders ever , Ronnie Coleman beat by two blocky guys and owned in the the challenge round by another , more gifts than Paris Hilton on Christmas lol

[NeoSeminole]

but according to the pics and videos

It is obvious to everyone that Jay did not exactly win by a landslide, yet the score seem to indicate this.

but if you look at all the threads on Jay vs ronnie, everyone says the same thing:

It was close  - both from the back and front.

Does it not strike you as odd that the score sheets show a dominant victory when all the pics and videos show that it was not?

oh, wait, you guys think dorian at his best was better than ronnie at his best - I forgot - you don't place much stock in pics and videos

exactly, I don't think the judges' score is accurate. Jay certainly did not look like he won by a landslide.

[Hulkster]

Jay is getting owned in everyone of those shots.

landslide my ass.

[NarcissisticDeity]

22 to 38 thats was a very clear cut victory !! not even close , like Ronnie in 98/01/02/04

[NarcissisticDeity]

Jay is getting owned in everyone of those shots.

landslide my ass.

I lover your bitterness lol

[Hulkster]

22 to 38 thats was a very clear cut victory !! not even close , like Ronnie in 98/01/02/04

ND, why do you value the judges scores so much?

no one else seems to - they use their own eyes and formulate opinions based on that.

you only seem to look at the numbers - for Jay vs ronnie or ronnie vs. dorian.

I couldn't care what the judges say if the pics and videos show that a hidden agenda (size over quality) or politics (landslide win when it was obvious that it wasn't) is at work.

Its called being autonomous - not being a follower.

[pumpster]

On this shot Coleman wins on everything but lat width, which was way down.

Jay as always looks good but never great..kind of like Yates.

[NeoSeminole]

the more I look at the evidence, the more I feel Ronnie was robbed.

Ronnie's prejudging
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-669858584352699021&q=mr+olympia+2006

Jay's prejudging
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4774857247242242642&q=mr+olympia+2006

[pobrecito]

exactly, I don't think the judges' score is accurate. Jay certainly did not look like he won by a landslide.

These pictures prove Cutler was gifted. Ronnie is absolutely destroying him in every shot. He has a much smaller waist and is incredibly more thick than Cutler. BULLSHIT

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, why do you value the judges scores so much?

no one else seems to - they use their own eyes and formulate opinions based on that.

you only seem to look at the numbers - for Jay vs ronnie or ronnie vs. dorian.

I couldn't care what the judges say if the pics and videos show that a hidden agenda (size over quality) or politics (landslide win when it was obvious that it wasn't) is at work.

Its called being autonomous - not being a follower.

See this is where your bias shines bright , you love comments from others when they're in Ronnies favor , you love Flex magazine when its in Ronnies favor , you love the judges scores when they're in Ronnies favor , you'll quote Shawn Ray ( after the fact ) when he says he should have been Mr Olympia but when he says Ronnie is a sore loser and was clearly beaten you wont touch that . Milos said he was beaten , John Romano said he was beaten , Shawn Perine had him beaten , as Peter McGough , etc

I know you're a huge Ronnie Coleman fan and right after he lost you were honest and conceeded he was off and paid for it , now time is playing tricks on your mind and disbelief has set in and you've been taking a lot of flack for being an Uber-fan but hey you have to take the good with the bad , the old addage applies " You win some , you lose some "

[NeoSeminole]

More pics

[pobrecito]

That back double bi shot I guess explains why Ronnie lost. He has not been that soft since the 1995 olympia

[delta9mda]

ND, why do you value the judges scores so much?

no one else seems to - they use their own eyes and formulate opinions based on that.

you only seem to look at the numbers - for Jay vs ronnie or ronnie vs. dorian.

I couldn't care what the judges say if the pics and videos show that a hidden agenda (size over quality) or politics (landslide win when it was obvious that it wasn't) is at work.

Its called being autonomous - not being a follower.

waaaahhhhh cry cry, the judges are the ones that pick the winner so yes they matter.