there is nothing to "understand" - just LOOK at the fucking pics/videos!!!
you guys reduce bodybuilding to analysis on paper with your numbers and postulates
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The problem here is that bodybuilding is, to a high degree, judged objectively, not subjectively. As I have explained to you infinite times before, what I prefer or what you prefer is irrelevant. Even what the judges might prefer is irrelevant to a high degree, since ther are certain criterias which they
must evaluate objectively. What are these? Muscularity&symmetry, as well as conditioning.
Muscularity and symmetry are evaluated both in the mandatories and relaxed rounds. If you compare the 1993 Dorian to the 1999 Ronnie, the fact is that Diesel would win in overrall muscularity when relaxed. It is actually a very simple equation: less stature + similar weight + less subcutaneous fat and water = more muscle. It is as simple as that really. As for symmetry, well, Ronnie would have a small edge in taper - although musch smaller than the one the 1998 Ronnie had -, but Dorian would have the better midsection and would be more balanced, both when it comes to the lower body as well as from the back.
Now, as for the mandatories, Dorian's thicker and wider muscularity in the latissimus, treres major and minor and infra-spinatus, his superior calves and smaller gluteus maximus would give him the rear lat spread flat flat out. In the back double biceps, Ronnie would only have an edge only in biceps. That's it. Dorian would have greater overrall back width, greater density and a thicker chistmas-tree, with better upper back details. Ronnie would only have an edge in glute size - which is a bad thing, as far as bodybuilding is concerned - and perhaps more striated hamstrings.
From the front, the edge goes to Ronnie in the front double biceps in account of his better biceps. Remarkably, though, the midsection is very visible in this mandatory and the edge goes to Dorian. The abdominals-and-thigh, well, Dorian wins it flat out. Ronnie's front quads separations were not as good in 1999 as they were in the previous year, and they're roughly equal in muscularity. Now, Hulky, you've posted a pic of Ronnie doing this mandatory which is from 1999, and it is shocking how thick Coleman's waist is and how poor his abdominal and serratus separations are. Fron lat spread also goes to Dorian, since he has wider lats, comparable taper and better midsection. Most muscular is a tie, because, while Ronnie has an edge in separations, Dorian is thicker. The side chest and triceps also goes to Dorian: he was classical and flawless at these two mandatories, at almost 260 lbs.
None of it means shit if you don't open your eyes and LOOK at the physiques in question! That is why no one can understand your whole pro -dorian argument. None of the pics and videos support the notion that he would beat a peak Ronnie at his best.
No, my friend, the "notion" that the 1993/5 Dorian would defeat the 1999 Ronnie is an objective one, and, while I do agree with you that the judges might prefer Ronnie's round, striated muscles over Dorian's more massive look, there is no garantee that this would be the case, except wishful thinking on your part. Bodybuilding judges do reward "shape" in many casees in the symmetry round, the the bottom line is that they don't
have to; but they do have to reward the objective criterias of muscular development(muscularity) and the proportions with which this development is presented(symmetry). And sorry to break it to you, but odds are that the 1993/5 Dorian is more muscular and at least as proportional as the 1999 Ronnie, in the relaxed round as well as in
most mandatories. Game over.
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