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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10150 on: October 17, 2006, 10:35:06 PM »
Both Dorian and Ronnie had distended midsections. Both kept their guts in check during prejudging. However, Dorian has a wide waist he cannot shrink. It can be seen from the front and back. Why is this concept so hard for people to understand?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10151 on: October 17, 2006, 10:36:48 PM »
Woefully out of shape, still with the relatively small waist, wide lats/shoulders and pronounced V. Yates with the classic H-taper..


what are you trying to prove?

that ronnie has a better v taper?

i think that was established on page 2.

you still are ignoring the fact that ronnie's horrendous midsection is more a liability than dorian's arms.

having a taper is NOT the most important part in choosing a winner.

however, conditioning (along with size) is.

i already provided 2 examples with flex and melvin regarding the taper issue, and of course you ignore it bc it makes your argument look, like you, retarted.



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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10152 on: October 17, 2006, 10:44:12 PM »
Both Dorian and Ronnie had distended midsections. Both kept their guts in check during prejudging. However, Dorian has a wide waist he cannot shrink. It can be seen from the front and back. Why is this concept so hard for people to understand?

its not.

everyone recognizes that ronnie's taper is better.

but that doesnt mean shit when you have a horrendous 4 pack.











coleman's taper went the same place is right lat and left tricep went.

(ps - i dont particularily enjoy dissing ronnie - he was a great champ - but since you guys hate on dorian so much - its fair game).
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10153 on: October 17, 2006, 10:45:55 PM »
but that doesnt mean shit when you have a horrendous 4 pack.

That didn't stop Arnold from winning more Mr. Olympias than Dorian. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10154 on: October 17, 2006, 10:56:26 PM »
yes ronnie has great peaked biceps. so does robby robinson, al beckles and darrem charles. biceps do not win a show. these are small muscles and whomever said arms are a large muscle group need to go back to school.
yates crushed ronnie every time without even thinking of him. hahahahahhahahahahha too bad hulky.

scott, ray and levrone all had the football shaped biceps. not really peaked at all.

back double bi and front double bi is the pose name. the judges are not looking for how good only the biceps are in the pose. it is the whole body. you guys really need to get over it. that is why yates with 40% of his left bi gone still wins. it didnt affect the overall look or flow of the poses.

arnold had one peaked bi and one full football shaped bi(some of you are forgetting that). he still won the o (with shit legs and a wide waist).

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10155 on: October 17, 2006, 10:57:10 PM »
amazed this thread is still alive

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10156 on: October 17, 2006, 11:00:51 PM »
That didn't stop Arnold from winning more Mr. Olympias than Dorian. ;)




4 pack - yes

horrendous - no



4 pack - yes

horrendous - yes
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10157 on: October 17, 2006, 11:02:55 PM »
yes ronnie has great peaked biceps. so does robby robinson, al beckles and darrem charles. biceps do not win a show. these are small muscles and whomever said arms are a large muscle group need to go back to school.
yates crushed ronnie every time without even thinking of him. hahahahahhahahahahha too bad hulky.

scott, ray and levrone all had the football shaped biceps. not really peaked at all.

back double bi and front double bi is the pose name. the judges are not looking for how good only the biceps are in the pose. it is the whole body. you guys really need to get over it. that is why yates with 40% of his left bi gone still wins. it didnt affect the overall look or flow of the poses.

arnold had one peaked bi and one full football shaped bi(some of you are forgetting that). he still won the o (with shit legs and a wide waist).



yep, that about sums it up.

ronnie had the same biceps and an even BETTER taper when he competed against dorian before 98.

where did that get him?

only when his conditioning improved did he win the olympia and compare with yates.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10158 on: October 17, 2006, 11:14:50 PM »


4 pack - yes

horrendous - yes

ha ha, you have to resort to posting the worst pics of Ronnie. Dorian wishes he had a small midsection like this.




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10159 on: October 17, 2006, 11:18:05 PM »
here is Dorian at his all-time best shape.








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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10160 on: October 18, 2006, 04:55:31 AM »
Nicky again clueless. As a long-time fan of BB it's immediately obvious to anyone with perspective that his arms were never in balance with the torso nor were they ever of the superstar size, shape or quality seen with previous greats dating back to the 60s. Nor was his waist, tapers or overall flow & lack of classic lines desirable to many. Hence the negative comments in the 90s by greats like Oliva and Schwarzenegger that Yates had taken BB in the wrong direction. Educate yourself on those difference before claiming to know otherwise.

He was also not the consume pro: consumate pros know how to smile onstage, not grimace the way he always did. Quick nicky, find me 5 on stage shots of this guy doing anything other than grimacing.

Also, he's rather pompous, which is not the trademark of a pro-even post-retirement interviews reveal that he really believes to this day that he was that much better than guys who deserved to beat his overhyped ass save for politics. There are now too many pics here that prove that point over and over again.

Lastly, I'm not a big fan of Coleman's, it's just glaringly obvious, as reflected by most of getbig in the poll that you're out of touch with. ;D

As someone quite concisely put it, for a multiple-year winner he was remarkably bereft of dominance.

Pumpster, he is British.  I would look constipated too if I had to eat their food.  ;D   Give the Yate's a break...probably had some bad blood pudding.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10161 on: October 18, 2006, 07:17:37 AM »
hello everyone! My 1st post in getbig, got to post in this famous thread. I am a big fan of both ronnie and dorian. If they both were both on stage at their all time best (dorian 93, Ronnie got to be in 03), i will have to go with ronnie if i were a unbiased judge. But personally i refer dorian..hehe  ;D
                   

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10162 on: October 18, 2006, 07:19:55 AM »
hello everyone! My 1st post in getbig, got to post in this famous thread. I am a big fan of both ronnie and dorian. If they both were both on stage at their all time best (dorian 93, Ronnie got to be in 03), i will have to go with ronnie if i were a unbiased judge. But personally i refer dorian..hehe  ;D
                   

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10163 on: October 18, 2006, 01:10:40 PM »
I have changed my mind about Ronnie Coleman. This video clearly shows he is the best bodybuilder and best poser ever. I love his awesome choice of music too.



Us yates fans have been totally Pwned. LOL

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10164 on: October 18, 2006, 01:22:53 PM »
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I have changed my mind about Ronnie Coleman. This video clearly shows he is the best bodybuilder and best poser ever. I love his awesome choice of music too.
More meaninglessness from rocketnerd, all cries for attention.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10165 on: October 18, 2006, 01:26:52 PM »
Pumpy's been successful in having most of SUCKY's posts occur in the middle of the night, to avoid further intimidation.

  Pumpster, the moron, believing that he has any clout at all in life... ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10166 on: October 18, 2006, 01:31:32 PM »
Looks sooo good despite being facially challenged.










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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10167 on: October 18, 2006, 01:40:22 PM »
I have changed my mind about Ronnie Coleman. This video clearly shows he is the best bodybuilder and best poser ever. I love his awesome choice of music too.



Us yates fans have been totally Pwned. LOL

I thought that was the 2006 Mr Olympia contest  :-X

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10168 on: October 18, 2006, 01:43:57 PM »
Or '97..classic Yates H-taper.  :o

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10169 on: October 18, 2006, 01:50:53 PM »
Or '97..classic Yates H-taper.  :o

Staright firsts across the board against Ronnie and his great taper lol  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10170 on: October 18, 2006, 02:10:15 PM »
and amazingly, despite the obvious flaws in the judging revealed by this thread, ND still thinks the judging scores during the Yates reign were spot on.. ::)

Your knees must be really sore..
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10171 on: October 18, 2006, 02:22:12 PM »
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yeah, yeah, you've said ronnie's abs sucked, but for the last 10 pages, you've criticized yates' arms (which is not totally unwarranted) but in reality, having a poor midsection is much more of a liability; especially against someone who has a great midsection. 


if you are talking about 300 pound Ronnie than I agree totally..

but the problem is that Ronnie's BEST shape at 1999 had a not so bad midsection:


and despite what the poor blind man Sucky says, it is complete with intercostals and serratus..

and the judges have demonstrated that if you have better quads and a better taper (two things Ronnie owns dorian on) you will WIN the AB and THIGH pose..ala Dexter versus Ronnie in 2004.

So, who is to say that they would not award the Ab and thigh to Ronnie for the VERY SAME REASONS they gave it to him over dexter?
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10172 on: October 18, 2006, 02:44:07 PM »
and amazingly, despite the obvious flaws in the judging revealed by this thread, ND still thinks the judging scores during the Yates reign were spot on.. ::)

Your knees must be really sore..

Hulkster do you even realize how simple you are? how uneducated , how ignorant you are? you're trying to say you know more than the judges do because you Hulkster King of the internet-fan-boys have voided their judgments by looking at a few computer scans and some compressed video , forget the fact the judges who've been doing this for years , forget they were live & in person , forget they were 10 feet from them , forget that 12 judges all came to the same conclusion , forget both the high & low scores are thrown out , forget the end result of their hard work and years of judging which is a thankless profession , Hulkster the internet-fan-boy has declared out loud " The judges are wrong and I am right " yes Hulkster you're right about Dorian being the most overrated bodybuilder of all time , right about Flex Wheeler beating Dorian in 1993 , Right that Shawn Ray beat Dorian in 1994 and 1996 , you're right that Ronnie dominated from the back in 2001 despite losing the entire prejudging , right that Ronnie has better aesthetics than Matt Mendenhall , right that Matt Mendenhall is blocky , right that the guy with the best x-frame wins all the time , you're right about a backless Nasser beating Yates in 95/97 , right about the Olympia not being close in 1998/2001/2002/2004/ and right about Ronnie getting the shaft at the 2002 Show of Strenght because they wanted tio create intrest for the Olympia , right about Ronnie getting robbed at the 2006 Mr Olympia , you're right about calves don't mean anything in a bodybuilding contest , right about Dorian's conditioning being just a myth , you're right about facts & figures mean nothing ,  you're right that Dorian is overrated because he was so great ,you're right about the judges picks when concerning Dorian are fixed and NOT in Ronnie's case , yes you're right about everything you've claimed  lmfao

Hulkster I have owned you at every turn in this debate , for all your nonsense you can't admit the obvious that at thier best both were great and it would be a great contest albiet a close contest , for you to claim otherwise show how far down the path of stupidty you've traveled but after those above comments the educated of us can clearly see hjow far gone you already are lol  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10173 on: October 18, 2006, 02:49:16 PM »
if you are talking about 300 pound Ronnie than I agree totally..

but the problem is that Ronnie's BEST shape at 1999 had a not so bad midsection:


and despite what the poor blind man Sucky says, it is complete with intercostals and serratus..

and the judges have demonstrated that if you have better quads and a better taper (two things Ronnie owns dorian on) you will WIN the AB and THIGH pose..ala Dexter versus Ronnie in 2004.

So, who is to say that they would not award the Ab and thigh to Ronnie for the VERY SAME REASONS they gave it to him over dexter?

Ronnie had a noticable gut in 1999 sport get over it and his ab-thigh is good but NOT Yates level , Dorian's whole midsection while not as narrow as Ronnie is supremly better , better development , better shaped abs , sharper and more clearly defined  intercostles , serattus and obliques !

And Dexter Jackson is NO Dorian Yates , Ronnie had better taper & quads and he lost nine times to Yates , oppps there goes that theory  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10174 on: October 18, 2006, 02:54:55 PM »
if you are talking about 300 pound Ronnie than I agree totally..

but the problem is that Ronnie's BEST shape at 1999 had a not so bad midsection:


and despite what the poor blind man Sucky says, it is complete with intercostals and serratus..

and the judges have demonstrated that if you have better quads and a better taper (two things Ronnie owns dorian on) you will WIN the AB and THIGH pose..ala Dexter versus Ronnie in 2004.

So, who is to say that they would not award the Ab and thigh to Ronnie for the VERY SAME REASONS they gave it to him over dexter?


for the same reason that jay beat ronnie in the abs and thigh pose in 04.


ronnie had a better taper throughout dorian's career.

where did that get him?
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