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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11025 on: October 31, 2006, 02:08:41 PM »
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Balance and proportion.  Yates has overwhelming calves compared to his thighs.  His arms are small (relatively to Coleman), and after the tear they were non-existent except from the side tricep.  Ronnie has always been known for having better symmetry with smaller obliques. 

exactly.

ND keeps going on about dorian's supposedly superior balance and proportion.

and yet he never seems to aknowlege the fact that peak Ronnie had far better balance and proportion than 93 Yates, who had a blocky physique, undersized arms for his frame, and calves that were so big they overpowered both his arms and his quads.

but he never ever listens to this ::)



yates has never ever had better balance and proprotion than this.


even in 93, and ESPECIALLY post tear, dorian's arms were way too small for his frame. noticably so.

Lets look at this comparison: Ronnie 99 vs. Dorian post tear:


yes, Ronnie's calves are too small for his quads. but other than that, everything balances nicely.


then you have dorian. giant, wide back, but really wide waist too. non existant arms. huge calves for his quads.

you tell me who is better balanced and proportioned.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11026 on: October 31, 2006, 02:10:13 PM »
Is that the best you can manage? thats him guest posing at Bev Francis gym and he was 275lbs.

I'm 99.9% certain that pic is from the 1993 EFBB British Championship where Dorian Yates guest posed. I was there in person. I also have it on video.




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11027 on: October 31, 2006, 02:16:56 PM »
I'm 99.9% certain that pic is from the 1993 EFBB British Championship where Dorian Yates guest posed. I was there in person. I also have it on video.





thats kinda what i was alluding to in my post... im a member of bevs and it would be hard for someone to take an off center off level photo of dorian in front of a non existent black wall

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11028 on: October 31, 2006, 02:17:52 PM »
and since when did gyms start having guest posing shows?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11029 on: October 31, 2006, 02:22:16 PM »
number one, guess where i live and train?...
number two to describe dorian as "hard as nails" there yet refuse to acknowledge how insanely good ronnies 03 olympia package was... honestly to say that dorian looks "hard as nails" there (weighing 275) but say that ronnie looked "soft" or water retained in 03 = clueless... youve gotta backpeddle over that one

I don't care where you live and train and 03 Ronnie was good no doubt his gut was the biggest ( no pun ) joke in Mr Olympia history , I don't care how big he was and how good his conditioning was he looks like garbage compared to his 98/99 self no if ands or buts about it ! and I never said Ronnie was soft I said his conditioning sucked compared to his best.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11030 on: October 31, 2006, 02:22:55 PM »
and since when did gyms start having guest posing shows?

I think it was a contest Bev and Steve were having and Yates guest posed , I may be wrong.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11031 on: October 31, 2006, 02:27:58 PM »
exactly.

ND keeps going on about dorian's supposedly superior balance and proportion.

and yet he never seems to aknowlege the fact that peak Ronnie had far better balance and proportion than 93 Yates, who had a blocky physique, undersized arms for his frame, and calves that were so big they overpowered both his arms and his quads.

but he never ever listens to this ::)


yes, Ronnie's calves are too small for his quads. but other than that, everything balances nicely.


then you have dorian. giant, wide back, but really wide waist too. non existant arms. huge calves for his quads.

you tell me who is better balanced and proportioned.



This isn't debateable ! it really isn't Yates' at his best destroys Ronnie in balance and proportion .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11032 on: October 31, 2006, 02:29:40 PM »
I don't care where you live and train and 03 Ronnie was good no doubt his gut was the biggest ( no pun ) joke in Mr Olympia history , I don't care how big he was and how good his conditioning was he looks like garbage compared to his 98/99 self no if ands or buts about it ! and I never said Ronnie was soft I said his conditioning sucked compared to his best.

Here is a pic I took myself of Dorian Yates posing at one of his seminars in England in early 1993. He is weighing 291lbs. Compare his size to Coleman's at the 2003 Olympia. How the f**k can Coleman at 295lbs look smaller than Yates at 291lbs? Explain that to me.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11033 on: October 31, 2006, 02:36:18 PM »
Is that the best you can manage? thats him guest posing at Bev Francis gym and he was 275lbs.

haha,... thats fine if you dont care... just letting you know when your wrong and caught making sh"t up

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11034 on: October 31, 2006, 02:40:29 PM »
Here is a pic I took myself of Dorian Yates posing at one of his seminars in England in early 1993. He is weighing 291lbs. Compare his size to Coleman's at the 2003 Olympia. How the f**k can Coleman at 295lbs look smaller than Yates at 291lbs? Explain that to me.


 ???   ummm, explain?... are u trying to say that dorian looks better in that pic then ronnie did at either the 04 or 06 olympia?


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11035 on: October 31, 2006, 02:41:15 PM »
haha,... thats fine if you dont care... just letting you know when your wrong and caught making sh"t up

Wow I'm wrong because you say so  ::) kid you'll need more than that

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11036 on: October 31, 2006, 02:43:27 PM »
???   ummm, explain?... are u trying to say that dorian looks better in that pic then ronnie did at either the 04 or 06 olympia?



He is in the offseason there but he looks a million times better than Coleman in the offseason. If you disagree with me on that I can post videos to prove it.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11037 on: October 31, 2006, 02:43:43 PM »
Here is a pic I took myself of Dorian Yates posing at one of his seminars in England in early 1993. He is weighing 291lbs. Compare his size to Coleman's at the 2003 Olympia. How the f**k can Coleman at 295lbs look smaller than Yates at 291lbs? Explain that to me.



Holy fuck !! Talk about a monster !

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11038 on: October 31, 2006, 02:45:17 PM »
Is that the best you can manage? thats him guest posing at Bev Francis gym and he was 275lbs.

tell me how your not wrong ???... sorry dont remember dorian guest posing at bevs in the last 10 year?  ::) haha

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11039 on: October 31, 2006, 02:47:59 PM »
tell me how your not wrong ???... sorry dont remember dorian guest posing at bevs in the last 10 year?  ::) haha

Again I believe it was a contest she held ! and that pic is from 1993 I believe so that would make it 13 years ago  ;) I may be wrong it may be from another guest posing event , either way he's a hard 275lbs in that pic.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11040 on: October 31, 2006, 02:49:53 PM »
haha ronnie in the green trunks in condition looks three times the size of dorian even in the offseason. get your fuggin eyes checked.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11041 on: October 31, 2006, 02:55:24 PM »
haha ronnie in the green trunks in condition looks three times the size of dorian even in the offseason. get your fuggin eyes checked.

You're a liar.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11042 on: October 31, 2006, 02:59:17 PM »
Again I believe it was a contest she held ! and that pic is from 1993 I believe so that would make it 13 years ago  ;) I may be wrong it may be from another guest posing event , either way he's a hard 275lbs in that pic.

thats cool, as long as you acknowledge the possibility of being wrong... all i was saying was that i knew that picture couldnt hve been taken at bevs...
haha ronnie in the green trunks in condition looks three times the size of dorian even in the offseason. get your fuggin eyes checked.
seriously


dorian holds a lot of his weight in his torso.... king kamalish... his organs must weigh a lot or something  ::) ... ronnie on the other hand has smaller joints.... making him look much bigger... his muscles balloon out then meet again at the joint...

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11043 on: October 31, 2006, 03:01:53 PM »
Here is a pic I took myself of Dorian Yates posing at one of his seminars in England in early 1993. He is weighing 291lbs. Compare his size to Coleman's at the 2003 Olympia. How the f**k can Coleman at 295lbs look smaller than Yates at 291lbs? Explain that to me.



here is coleman at 285 pounds guest posing:





and he looks bigger than Yates.

Explain THAT to me :P.

Look at how his arms and chest just DESTROY dorian's. sort of like what would happen had the 99 Ronnie competed against Dorian's best..
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11044 on: October 31, 2006, 03:02:01 PM »
Here is a pic I took myself of Dorian Yates posing at one of his seminars in England in early 1993. He is weighing 291lbs. Compare his size to Coleman's at the 2003 Olympia. How the f**k can Coleman at 295lbs look smaller than Yates at 291lbs? Explain that to me.

simple, Ronnie doesn't look smaller. I don't know what the hell you are talking about.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11045 on: October 31, 2006, 03:02:22 PM »
I still can't believe that Ronnie Coleman ever became Mr Olympia let alone an 8 time winner of the title. 10 years ago the judges never looked at him twice and he always placed outside the top 10. If the standard was still as high as it was 10 years ago I don't think he would ever have been Mr Olympia. Thank God he never broke Lee Haney's record. That would've been a complete and utter disaster for bodybuilding history.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11046 on: October 31, 2006, 03:04:09 PM »
here is coleman at 285 pounds guest posing:

and he looks bigger than Yates.

Explain THAT to me :P.

Look at how his arms and chest just DESTROY dorian's. sort of like what would happen had the 99 Ronnie competed against Dorian's best..

See pictures are deceptive it does look like Ronnie is bigger but you really couldn't tell unless they were side by side and Ronnie is very hard at that weight.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11047 on: October 31, 2006, 03:07:58 PM »
Dorian at 255lbs and Ronnie at 250lbs and Ronnie despite have smaller joints isn't making Yates look small .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11048 on: October 31, 2006, 03:09:34 PM »
I still can't believe that Ronnie Coleman ever became Mr Olympia let alone an 8 time winner of the title. 10 years ago the judges never looked at him twice and he always placed outside the top 10. If the standard was still as high as it was 10 years ago I don't think he would ever have been Mr Olympia. Thank God he never broke Lee Haney's record. That would've been a complete and utter disaster for bodybuilding history.

Run along now kid. I can understand if you were totally against massive physiques to make a comment like that, but you obsess over Dorian like a Japanese school girl. How can you say Ronnie doesn't deserve to win the Mr. Olympia yet make an exception for a blocky torso, missing-one-arm bricklayer?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #11049 on: October 31, 2006, 03:11:59 PM »
Dorian at 255lbs and Ronnie at 250lbs and Ronnie despite have smaller joints isn't making Yates look small .

Son, we've already been through this before. Ronnie isn't fully flexing in that pic. Notice how scrunched together his traps are? Also, look at his left elbow. His arms are pulled further back b/c you can see much more of his elbow compared to Dorian.