Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

Overall conditioning NOT on par with Yates !! neither is density & thickness !

[Hulkster]

nice try ND. Pick a shot where Ronnie is fully flexing next time:

[NarcissisticDeity]

nice try ND. Pick a shot where Ronnie is fully flexing next time:

Oh never heard that excuse before  Yates kills Ronnie on dryness overall dryness head to toe

[Hulkster]

ND, look at the two pics. Anyone but you can see that Ronnie is fully flexing in the prejudging shot (and looks fantastic as a result) and not in the shots you posted.

[pumpster]

Coleman has far more cuts & separation, in addition to the size advantage. He's shredded, Yates is not, aside from who's denser.

[Aerian]

ND, look at this!:

That is a total freak pic of coleman hulkster.  You need to post it more often in other threads.  Awsome

[Hulkster]

compare:

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, look at the two pics. Anyone but you can see that Ronnie is fully flexing in the prejudging shot (and looks fantastic as a result) and not in the shots you posted.

Its a lame excuse used to much , you look at the top Yates pic I posted he's not even flexing !!

[Hulkster]

notice how much softer the lower back is in the second Ronnie pic.

and ND says he is fully flexing

face it ND: these pics have made everyone a believer that Ronnie 99 would take dorian out.

you are the lonely, biased minority who insists otherwise.

[NarcissisticDeity]

No way is Ronnie 99 as dry as Yates same shot and look Yates has NO GUT

[NarcissisticDeity]

notice how much softer the lower back is in the second Ronnie pic.

and ND says he is fully flexing

face it ND: these pics have made everyone a believer that Ronnie 99 would take dorian out.

you are the lonely, biased minority who insists otherwise.

Oh WoW everyone agrees with Hulkster lol most people who agree with you are idiots most people like you have NO clue how to assess the competitive bodybuilding physique , most people don't have a clue what the IFBB mens professional judging criteria is , your point says nothing .

[NarcissisticDeity]

Perfect example of how Ronnie isn't as dry as Yates , his triceps while striated are still covered in a film of water , and this is a horrible pose for him , gut sticking out , no calves , not balace !

[NarcissisticDeity]

Marjor obsticle when you're not as dry all over as your competitor.

[pumpster]

Jesus that's a huge lump of oblique ruining the shot..sloppy.

[pobrecito]

ND,

Yates would win the Side Tri and Ab/Thigh in my opinion.

However, unbiasedly looking at the pictures I just don't see any way you can argue for Yates in the front double bi, rear double bi, rear lat.

Ronnie easily beats Yates on the most muscular...

[pumpster]

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on Today at 08:38:06 PM
Oh WoW everyone agrees with Hulkster lol most people who agree with you are idiots most people like you have NO clue how to assess the competitive bodybuilding physique , most people don't have a clue what the IFBB mens professional judging criteria is , your point says nothing .

Translation: no one understands me. 

[pobrecito]

Actually, I will re-consider. Yates could also possibly win the rear lat due to his superior top to bottom balance, condition, and a back at least equal to coleman.

But, by my count that is only 3 out of 7 that Yates could win, leaving Ronnie with 4

Ronnie would win.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND,

Yates would win the Side Tri and Ab/Thigh in my opinion.

However, unbiasedly looking at the pictures I just don't see any way you can argue for Yates in the front double bi, rear double bi, rear lat.

Ronnie easily beats Yates on the most muscular...

According to the criteria Dorian still has the edge in density , thickness , balance & condition in ALL mandatories , Yates is the clear cut winner in the side chest , side triceps , ab-thigh , front & rear latspreads , and I would gove Yates the backdouble biceps as well , and Ronnie the front double biceps & most muscular .

[pumpster]

Yates is not close on rear lat. Coleman's wider, has a better taper to a smaller waist, and has better muscle quality and separation. The muscles jump out from under & have depth, vs. Yates' 1-dimensional flatness.

[NarcissisticDeity]

A detailed assessment of the various muscle groups should
be made during the comparisons, at which time it helps the judge
to compare muscle shape, density, and definition while still
bearing in mind the competitor’s overall balanced development.
The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.

Dorian meets this criteria better than Ronnie no matter what year , muscular bulk in 99 is a push , density goes to Yates , balanced development goes to Yates , definition/condition goes to Yates , Dorian is dryer all over , shape is equal , yes Ronnie has the edge in some parts and so does Dorian !

[NarcissisticDeity]

Yates is not close on rear lat. Coleman's wider, has a better taper and has better muscle quality and separation. The muscles jump out from under & have depth, vs. Yates' 1-dimensional flatness.

See this is where you leap into absurdity , he's not even close  if anything its close until you understand Ronnie isn't as balanced or dry as Yates and he has NO lowerlegs , and Arnold said in any back shot if you flex your calves and nothing happens the whole effect is RUNIED 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Back Lat Spread (see Figure 5)
Standing with his back to the judges, the competitor will
place his hands on his waist with his elbows kept wide,
one foot back and resting on the toes. He will then
contract the latissimus dorsi as wide as possible and
display a calf contraction by pressing downward on the
rear toes. The competitor should make an effort to
display the opposite calf to that which was displayed
during the back double biceps pose so the the judge may
assess both calf muscle equally. It shall be strictly
forbidden for the competitor to pull up on the posing
trunks so as to show the gluteus maximus muscles.
The judge will look for a good spread of the latissimus
dorsi, but also for good muscle density and will again
conclude with the head-to-foot survey.

Hmm lets see the competitor should display a calf contraction and make an effort to display the opposite calf , how can Ronnie do that? and where does it say the guy with the better taper wins , it asks for a " good " spread of the lats Yates clearly has that and wait the judges ask for good muscle DENSITY and Yates has that , Dorian is untouachable in this pose.

[pumpster]

None of those shots narrow Coleman's advantage. The pictures don't lie.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Back Double Biceps (see Figure 4)
Standing with his back to the judges, the competitor will
bend the arms and wrists as in the Front Double Biceps
pose, and will place one foot back, resting on the toes.
He will then contract the arm muscles as well as the
muscles of the shoulders, upper and lower back, thigh
and calf muscles.

The judge will first survey the arm muscles and then do
the head-to-foot survey, during which there are more
muscle groups to look at than in all of the other poses.
This includes the neck, deltoids, biceps, triceps, forearm,
trapezius, teres, infraspinatus, erector spinae, external
obliques, latissimus dorsi, gluteus, thigh biceps, and
calves. This pose, probably more than the others, will
help the judge to determine the quality of the
competitor’s muscle density, definition, and overall
balance.

This is a close pose but again Coleman's liability is clear , he has NO calves which are mentioned in the rules twice !! with other keywords , DENSITY DEFINITION and OVERALL BALANCE , Ronnie has a comprable back until you get to the erector spinae and lower lats not and it mentions obliques as well !! head to toe mind you Ronnie can't beat this.

[Hulkster]

anyone else find it funny that ND is going on about dorian's superior density and dryness....when his lower back has folds of loose Jay Cutler-like skin in the rear lat spread?

Coleman takes this one.