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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14300 on: November 24, 2006, 07:09:50 PM »
The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.


3. Side Chest (see Figure 3)
The competitor may choose either side for this pose, in
order to display the “better” arm. He will stand with his
left or right side towards the judges and will bend the arm
nearest the judges to a right-angle position, with the fist
clenched and, with the other hand, will grasp the wrist.
The leg nearest the judges will be bent at the knee and
will rest on the toes. The competitor will then expand the
chest and by upward pressure of the front bent arm and
contract the biceps as much as possible. He will also
contract the thigh muscles, in particular, the biceps
femoris group, and by downward pressure on his toes,
will display the contracted calf muscles.
The judge will pay particular attention to the pectoral
muscles and the arch of the rib cage, the biceps, the leg
biceps and the calves, and will conclude with the head-tofoot
examination. In this pose the judge will be able to
survey the thigh and calf muscles in profile, which will
help in grading their comparative development more
accurately.

Wow the keep asking for calves muscles in every single mandatory , lets see another pose Ronnie starts off behind , and balance as well oh and lets not forget conditioning , Ronnie's overdeveloped front delts hurt him in this shot as well as his poor calves and lack of balance , another clear win for Yates.



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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14301 on: November 24, 2006, 07:20:55 PM »
Ronnie's 99 side chest kills any of those.

problem is we do not have a screencap of it.

but it is there in the prejudging vid for all to see.

in the mean time, we can use the 99 grand prix shot to easily see ronnie's dominance over yates - a man with a not so great chest and not so great arms, the two focal points of the pose:



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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14302 on: November 24, 2006, 07:22:07 PM »
once again we see that dorian could not compete with the 1999 version of Ronnie.

too much shape.

too much detail.

and ND again with the solitary closeups... ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14303 on: November 24, 2006, 07:23:08 PM »
both kevin and ronnie's side chest is just owning Yates as usual.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14304 on: November 24, 2006, 07:32:58 PM »
Ronnie's 99 side chest kills any of those.

problem is we do not have a screencap of it.

but it is there in the prejudging vid for all to see.

in the mean time, we can use the 99 grand prix shot to easily see ronnie's dominance over yates - a man with a not so great chest and not so great arms, the two focal points of the pose:





Hmm perhaps you missed the criteria? Levrone NEVER beat Yates in the sidechest and you think Ronnie has a great side chest , it could be better but he can't even do the pose correctly and again go over the criteria , Ronnie is already down balance , calves , and conditioning and he can't even effectively do the pose , Ronnie's front & side delts dominate this whole pose , they make his pecs appear small in comparision  not to mention his convexed gut can be seen.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14305 on: November 24, 2006, 07:46:51 PM »
This is a texbook sidechest amd look how comprable Dorians is to Samir , and Ronnies doesn't come close to this at all , his sidechest is 75% delts

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14306 on: November 24, 2006, 07:51:10 PM »
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not to mention his convexed gut can be seen.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14307 on: November 24, 2006, 07:53:01 PM »
::)

Thick obliques? and look at the side chest Ronnie's convexed gut is clearly apparent and his sidechest is 75% side/front delts and no calves , Dorian is a textbook sidechest .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14308 on: November 24, 2006, 07:59:30 PM »
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Dorian is a textbook sidechest .

I would not call a side chest with microsized arms a textbook side chest:


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14309 on: November 24, 2006, 08:00:42 PM »
Thick obliques? and look at the side chest Ronnie's convexed gut is clearly apparent and his sidechest is 75% side/front delts and no calves , Dorian is a textbook sidechest .

you think dorian's gut is just "thick obliques"?

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man, you really have a novice knowledge of the sport

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14310 on: November 24, 2006, 08:00:56 PM »
Man, Levrone is just slaughtering Coleman on that side chest!

Little lesson for hulkster (take notes ;))
1) Levrone beat Coleman on the side chest in Ronnie's prime
2) Yates beat Levrone on the side chest in Kevin's prime (1995).

Therefore, Yates > Coleman.

Comprende?

Secondly, just look at this annihilation of Ray and Sonbaty in the rear lat by Yates :o Also note that Sonbaty was noticeably wider than Coleman in 98. Hence, with Dorian being wider that Sonbaty here, he is wider than Coleman. This is also illustrated in the 2nd picture where Yates has greater lat and clavicle width.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14311 on: November 24, 2006, 08:05:38 PM »
notice whenever the dorian side is faced with direct comparative proof of Ronnie's dominance, they immediately inundate the thread with paragraphs of judging criteria as if they mean more than the comparison pics? ::)

doesn't get any more desperate than that folks..

Hello...here is the comparison picture right here ;)

Note, the only reason I made this comparison was to show Dorian's superior lat and clavicle width. This shot of Ronnie is from 2001. You then claim it's not his best shape and I agree with that. But that has NOTHING to do with his lat width. If anything he would be WIDER than 99 due to the 8lb size increase. How you can argue Coleman being wider after seeing this comparison is beyond me.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14312 on: November 24, 2006, 08:40:36 PM »
ND, see the folds of skin just above the object of your affections?

that is called loose skin:

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its not really loose skin foo', he starts the lat spread with the hand from the back and pulls forward pulling the skin. of course it will wrinkle.  ronnie does the lat spread by pushing his hands into his sides, not pulling his hands forward. go to a pro show an witness it for real and then talk your shit.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14313 on: November 24, 2006, 08:42:53 PM »
its not really loose skin foo', he starts the lat spread with the hand from the back and pulls forward pulling the skin. of course it will wrinkle.  ronnie does the lat spread by pushing his hands into his sides, not pulling his hands forward. go to a pro show an witness it for real and then talk your shit.

speak more on 95 dammit.

Speak on Dorian's dominance.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14314 on: November 24, 2006, 09:07:09 PM »

this pic illustrates what has been said many times: Ronnie was so big and ripped in 99 that his weak calves did not stand out nearly as much as they did later on in his career. I mean, seriously: compare his calves to the rest of the lineup - they do not look that out of place.
When ronnie bulked up and his quads became the size of treetrunks, THEN the calves really stood out as a weakpoint.

but back in 99, the only real weakpoint that the judges even noticed was the 4 pack.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14315 on: November 24, 2006, 09:08:42 PM »
speak more on 95 dammit.

Speak on Dorian's dominance.

dorian may have 'dominated' in 95...but would he dominate this:

I think not 8)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14316 on: November 24, 2006, 09:12:25 PM »
its not really loose skin foo', he starts the lat spread with the hand from the back and pulls forward pulling the skin. of course it will wrinkle.  ronnie does the lat spread by pushing his hands into his sides, not pulling his hands forward. go to a pro show an witness it for real and then talk your shit.

ah... so what you are saying is that Ronnie poses better than Dorian... 8)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14317 on: November 24, 2006, 10:12:16 PM »
And what about you, NeoSperminole? All you do is post pics from 2003 where Ronnie's gut is not visible or where he's sucking it in. Then you post pics of Ronnie from the back and praises them. You see this incredible bodybuilder, whereas I see an un-manly guy with disproportionally large glutes and no calves. As far as the back goes, Dorian is just as wide as Ronnie and with better separations. Adding Dorian's symmetrical advantages, Yates wins. Frm the front, Dorian has better taper in the abs-and-thigh and front lat spread. Besides, Ronnie's distendced gut makes him lose the symmetry round flat out.

This is where your obvious bias is exposed. No kidding I keep posting shots of Ronnie when he's controlling his midsection. It's called showing a person in their best light. Since this argument is which bodybuilder would win at their prime, it's only fair to compare both using their best pics. Numerous pics have been posted that show Dorian had a gut too. So I could just as easily claim all you do is post shots of Dorian where his gut is not visible or he's sucking it in. Furthermore, your comment that Ronnie looks unmanly is laughable. Dorian looked like a cow with twig arms.

I've already established that 93 Dorian was not as wide as 03 Ronnie. He was certainly wide, but not as wide. Dorian had better separation in the rear double biceps. However, he seemed to lose some detail in the rear lat spread. His traps blended in with his lats, and his lower back was obscured by folds of skin. You also ignore Ronnie's overwhelming size advantage. Even though his back in 03 was not as separated as Dorian's, his extra width and thickness more than compensated for this.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14318 on: November 25, 2006, 01:09:40 AM »
Direct comparison:


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14319 on: November 25, 2006, 03:18:31 AM »
Direct comparison:

here's an accurate comparison.




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14320 on: November 25, 2006, 03:36:53 AM »
here's an accurate comparison.





Dorian is owned completely. ND = racist.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14321 on: November 25, 2006, 03:47:39 AM »
See how smooth Coleman looked in 99 with the lights turned on? He doesn't look like the same bodybuilder.

Pwned again. LOL




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14322 on: November 25, 2006, 03:50:34 AM »
96 Yates > 99 Coleman




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14323 on: November 25, 2006, 05:24:32 AM »
here's an accurate comparison.




You wouldn't know a accurate comparison if it fell on your head , this is one of your gems  ::) look at Ronnie's forearms they're like a foot longer than Dorian , kid your work sucks period and you slant comparisons to suit your preference

And how the f**k is your ' comparison ' accurate and the REAL one isn't ? whats ironic is Ronnie is 250lbs in that pic and getting owned badly and Dorian is not even at his best.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14324 on: November 25, 2006, 05:33:49 AM »
I would not call a side chest with microsized arms a textbook side chest:


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But microsized calves are okay? and seriously your stupidity is reaching epic proportions , from head to toe Ronnie Coleman can't touch Dorian in the sidechest shot , his is thick and freaky no doubt but NOT textbook and not balanced , the judges are looking for a pose like Dorian's