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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14375 on: November 25, 2006, 08:18:06 AM »
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Me my self competed numerous time and seeing felow competitor on stage and in audience made huge difference too.Sometime i was so surprised at beating bigger guy than me and my friend told me that i looked way better and i said "No way, i dont believe you." and many said also i was better. i know only Lee priest who say dorian is better and all of another said "Ronnie is from another planet".You know what they mean.
So on stage you cant judge your fellow competitor.its almost impossible.IN audience,YES. I see many pro contest(include WABBA) and my judgeing and those pro-judge are almost same.
And also, i have been huge huge Dorian Yates that time and my hand was shaking with emotion when he shaked my hand and sign his autograph to my dorians book.BUt,i thought Dorian was owned by Nasser from the front.So my way of judging is always constructed with logic ,not my favourite.
Some parts are better than coleman,ex: calves and especialy his granite condition. But many parts and proportion, Ronnie is better.
But telling you again, i have never been huge colemans fan.

This guy has no idea what he is talking about. The steroids have effected his English.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14376 on: November 25, 2006, 08:20:53 AM »
This guy has no idea what he is talking about. The steroids have effected his English.
How old are you kids? Its time to go to bed. i know you are teenager or some early 20s.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14377 on: November 25, 2006, 08:21:15 AM »
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Me my self competed numerous time and seeing felow competitor on stage and in audience made huge difference too.Sometime i was so surprised at beating bigger guy than me and my friend told me that i looked way better and i said "No way, i dont believe you." and many said also i was better. i know only Lee priest who say dorian is better and all of another said "Ronnie is from another planet".You know what they mean.
So on stage you cant judge your fellow competitor.its almost impossible.IN audience,YES. I see many pro contest(include WABBA) and my judgeing and those pro-judge are almost same.
And also, i have been huge huge Dorian Yates that time and my hand was shaking with emotion when he shaked my hand and sign his autograph to my dorians book.BUt,i thought Dorian was owned by Nasser from the front.So my way of judging is always constructed with logic ,not my favourite.
Some parts are better than coleman,ex: calves and especialy his granite condition. But many parts and proportion, Ronnie is better.
But telling you again, i have never been huge colemans fan.

Again you're giving your opinion , and Lee Priest gave his both are contradictory and in the end its up to the judges to decide , Flex Wheeler says Ronnie would win etc , its all speculation in the end.

Nasser may have beat Dorian from the front in 1997 but he didn't in 1995 and he wouldn't in 1993 , Dorian even at his worse 1997 still clearly beat Nasser in every round , nevermind at his best ! Ronnie can't match Dorian in the sidechest , sidetriceps , ab-thigh , front & rear latspreads , backdouble biceps , Dorian looks better from all angles from all side , sure guys can post pics of Yates when he doesn't look so great in these poses , but at his best Dorian is unbeatable period.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14378 on: November 25, 2006, 08:22:42 AM »
This guy has no idea what he is talking about. The steroids have effected his English.
and see what i and nd talked about.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14379 on: November 25, 2006, 08:23:42 AM »
And also,i see more "lines" in ronnies body than dorians in spite of dorians granite condition.

Oh we've covered this topic to ad nausem Ronnie isn't an aesthetic bodybuilder and never will be . he may be more aesthetic than Dorian but he'll never be mistaken for Bob Paris , Ronnie is a collection of freaky parts . impressive yes but aesthetic no.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14380 on: November 25, 2006, 08:24:11 AM »
Nothing mediocre about Dorian's triceps or forearms , his biceps were good enough to beat guys like Ronnie who had the freaky arms when Dorian beat him 9 times , Dorian didn't need Ronnie's arms to beat Ronnie.

you keep saying this as if 1999 Ronnie faced dorian in 1992 ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14381 on: November 25, 2006, 08:25:35 AM »
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Ronnie can't match Dorian in the sidechest , sidetriceps , ab-thigh , front & rear latspreads , backdouble biceps , Dorian looks better from all angles from all side , sure guys can post pics of Yates when he doesn't look so great in these poses , but at his best Dorian is unbeatable period

once again, ND has no one that shares his opinion, except maybe his alter-ego, Pubic :).
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14382 on: November 25, 2006, 08:25:47 AM »
Again you're giving your opinion , and Lee Priest gave his both are contradictory and in the end its up to the judges to decide , Flex Wheeler says Ronnie would win etc , its all speculation in the end.

Nasser may have beat Dorian from the front in 1997 but he didn't in 1995 and he wouldn't in 1993 , Dorian even at his worse 1997 still clearly beat Nasser in every round , nevermind at his best ! Ronnie can't match Dorian in the sidechest , sidetriceps , ab-thigh , front & rear latspreads , backdouble biceps , Dorian looks better from all angles from all side , sure guys can post pics of Yates when he doesn't look so great in these poses , but at his best Dorian is unbeatable period.
Oookkk....sometime i feel looking at you is just like looking at the shadow obsessed with Markus.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14383 on: November 25, 2006, 08:26:32 AM »
you keep saying this as if 1999 Ronnie faced dorian in 1992 ::)

Ronnie's biceps were always better and bigger than Dorian's in fact the times they faced each other Ronnie had the edge in biceps/triceps size it doesn't matter , you think it does but it doesn't.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14384 on: November 25, 2006, 08:27:20 AM »
once again, ND has no one that shares his opinion, except maybe his alter-ego, Pubic :).

The judges share my opinion hence the perfect scores lol  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14385 on: November 25, 2006, 08:27:35 AM »
Oh we've covered this topic to ad nausem Ronnie isn't an aesthetic bodybuilder and never will be . he may be more aesthetic than Dorian but he'll never be mistaken for Bob Paris , Ronnie is a collection of freaky parts . impressive yes but aesthetic no.
That"lines"doesnt mean shapes but it means striations.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14386 on: November 25, 2006, 08:30:14 AM »
Oookkk....sometime i feel looking at you is just like looking at the shadow obsessed with Markus.

You couldn't be any more wrong ! and if you weren't johhny-come-lately on this thread you'd know I don't think Dorian is unbeatable or invincable I'm more than willing to concede Yates may lose at his best to Ronnie , but one thing is clear Ronnie wouldn't beat him by leaps and bounds it would be very very close or maybe like Priest said Yates would beat Ronnie easily. and I also think a 1993 ASC Flex would beat Yates .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14387 on: November 25, 2006, 08:33:33 AM »
That"lines"doesnt mean shapes but it means striations.

when most people refer to lines its in terms of aesthetics anyway , Ronnie may have more striations but Dorian is no slouch , lines aren't contest deal breakers they're not going to shift a contest one way or the other , Ronnie has more lines in his chest and triceps , Dorian has more in his midsection , lower back and lowerlats again its like shape , Ronnie has the edge in terms of some shape in some muscle and Dorian in others , Dorian doesn't have to be like Ronnie to beat Ronnie , with a win/loss percentage of 88% being Dorian worked very well for him.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14388 on: November 25, 2006, 08:36:39 AM »
You couldn't be any more wrong ! and if you weren't johhny-come-lately on this thread you'd know I don't think Dorian is unbeatable or invincable I'm more than willing to concede Yates may lose at his best to Ronnie , but one thing is clear Ronnie wouldn't beat him by leaps and bounds it would be very very close or maybe like Priest said Yates would beat Ronnie easily. and I also think a 1993 ASC Flex would beat Yates .
Oh thats very interesting,if this is the matrix, i would like to conect my brain cable to yours! your point of view is very interesting.But,i am very very sure that you are judging bbing many times with photos,not with video.i recomend you to do with video.that is much nearer to the real.
I surely see Flex doesnt have any chance to Dorian. Dorian was always better.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14389 on: November 25, 2006, 08:42:45 AM »
Oh thats very interesting,if this is the matrix, i would like to conect my brain cable to yours! your point of view is very interesting.But,i am very very sure that you are judging bbing many times with photos,not with video.i recomend you to do with video.that is much nearer to the real.
I surely see Flex doesnt have any chance to Dorian. Dorian was always better.

I have the 1993/94 Mr Olympia on video , I've seen clips of Dorian from 1992/95/96/97 I've seen clips of Ronnie 94/95/96/97/98/99/00/01/02/03/04/05/06 Olympia I've seen dozens and dozens of pictures from Ronnie & Dorian at their best , I've covered all the bases and I'm confident that in the end Yates would win , he simply fits the IFBB judging criteria better than Ronnie.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14390 on: November 25, 2006, 08:45:47 AM »
I have the 1993/94 Mr Olympia on video , I've seen clips of Dorian from 1992/95/96/97 I've seen clips of Ronnie 94/95/96/97/98/99/00/01/02/03/04/05/06 Olympia I've seen dozens and dozens of pictures from Ronnie & Dorian at their best , I've covered all the bases and I'm confident that in the end Yates would win , he simply fits the IFBB judging criteria better than Ronnie.
for example..which do you think out line of legs is better? who has more sweep?
just i ask you.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14391 on: November 25, 2006, 08:50:29 AM »
for example..which do you think out line of legs is better? who has more sweep?
just i ask you.

Its obvious Ronnie has better sweep and Ronnie did have striated quads in 96 but not when he won the Olympia , does better quadsweep compensate for poor lowerleg balance & proportion ? I don't think so.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14392 on: November 25, 2006, 08:54:13 AM »
Its obvious Ronnie has better sweep and Ronnie did have striated quads in 96 but not when he won the Olympia , does better quadsweep compensate for poor lowerleg balance & proportion ? I don't think so.
soso sorry....do you think Ronnie have poor lowerleg balance & proprtion than Dorian???

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14393 on: November 25, 2006, 08:54:40 AM »
Man, Levrone is just slaughtering Coleman on that side chest!

Little lesson for hulkster (take notes ;))
1) Levrone beat Coleman on the side chest in Ronnie's prime
2) Yates beat Levrone on the side chest in Kevin's prime (1995).

Therefore, Yates > Coleman.

Comprende?

Secondly, just look at this annihilation of Ray and Sonbaty in the rear lat by Yates :o Also note that Sonbaty was noticeably wider than Coleman in 98. Hence, with Dorian being wider that Sonbaty here, he is wider than Coleman. This is also illustrated in the 2nd picture where Yates has greater lat and clavicle width.




I see Hulkster has conveniently ignored my post :-\


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14394 on: November 25, 2006, 08:57:37 AM »
Hey Hulkster another quote from MuscleMag International Feb 1994 on Dorian Yates at the 1993 Mr Olympia


" He's huge , absolutely HUGE ...he's ripped completely RIPPED. And while he's not in possession of the prettiest physique body by a long shot , he's equipped with all the bodyparts you need to win .

Combine this with the fact that he's 10 TIMES more impressive when you see him onstage at the Olympia than he is in pictures or on videos and you got yourself a winner.

another magazine saying the same thing , Dorian must be seen in person , pics and video don't do hum justice 

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14395 on: November 25, 2006, 08:58:20 AM »
soso sorry....do you think Ronnie have poor lowerleg balance & proprtion than Dorian???

I don't think he has poor lowerleg balance & proportion I know he does .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14396 on: November 25, 2006, 08:59:30 AM »
the mostrous traps creat an ilusion that ronnie is narrower but if you put both of them its clear who is wide. I saw Dorian competing but he is not wide.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14397 on: November 25, 2006, 09:01:47 AM »
the mostrous traps creat an ilusion that ronnie is narrower but if you put both of them its clear who is wide. I saw Dorian competing but he is not wide.


Dorian has traps just as big.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14398 on: November 25, 2006, 09:02:45 AM »
Hey Hulkster another quote from MuscleMag International Feb 1994 on Dorian Yates at the 1993 Mr Olympia


" He's huge , absolutely HUGE ...he's ripped completely RIPPED. And while he's not in possession of the prettiest physique body by a long shot , he's equipped with all the bodyparts you need to win .

Combine this with the fact that he's 10 TIMES more impressive when you see him onstage at the Olympia than he is in pictures or on videos and you got yourself a winner.

another magazine saying the same thing , Dorian must be seen in person , pics and video don't do hum justice 
hey,maybe thats why i know his physic better than you ;D

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #14399 on: November 25, 2006, 09:04:52 AM »
Dorian has traps just as big.
ooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh nooooooooo!! Ronnie has the biggest trap in the mr.o history! His trap is insane.