Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

Hulkster you're weak dude lol really weak , this is why this debate is dead because you can't counter me , this is check mate for you my friend.

Again you're setting up strawmen to knock down , you post pics of 1992 Ronnie vs 1999 and say " look " its so weak lol by 1996 Ronnie was pegged as a legitimate contender for the top spot at the Olympia , serious thats check mate that trumps your lame assessment that Ronnie was an " infant ' when Yates faced him lol

Kid I got you from all angles 

no you don't.

1997 vs. 1999:

[NarcissisticDeity]

no you don't.

1997 vs. 1999:

Oh absolutely I do  Ronnie was better in 1999 no doubt but in 1997 he was 99% as good in 1999

[Hulkster]

as expected, Ronnie's arms in 1999 make his arms in 1996/7 look like dogshit.

same holds true with the:

-back
-chest
-quads
etc etc.

You see, the quote from 1996 is outdated because no one could comprehend that Ronnie would show up looking like THIS in 1999:

had they known, they would have said he was wearing diapers...

[NarcissisticDeity]

as expected, Ronnie's arms in 1999 make his arms in 1996/7 look like dogshit.

same holds true with the:

-back
-chest
-quads
etc etc.

You see, the quote from 1996 is outdated because no one could comprehend that Ronnie would show up looking like THIS in 1999:

had they known, they would have said he was wearing diapers...

99 he was a tad fuller with better overall conditioning , Hulkster you really don't have anything to work with  , his dimensions , his clavicle width , his arm size , his waist size all the same in 99 he appears to have fuller  quads but its NOT as dramatic as say 95 to 99 its very subtle , he was 255 pounds at the 1997 Mr Olympia he came in a little heavy and his conditioning suffered for it , 1999 he was the same size as 97 but ride of excess water .

[Necrosis]

nd just post a pic were dorian looks better in the mm, side chest, front double bi, i will concede lat spread is a tie but back DOUBLE BICEPS is ronnies, his back is better at worst as good but his biceps destroy dorians. ronnie wins all these poses, and possibly abs and THIGHS since is thighs are vastly superior in size-sweep and cuts. problem is you cant, ronnie is clearly superior then dorian, it is so obvious from the pictures. dorian deserves all the credit in the world for taking mediocre overall genetics and structure and winning, but ronnie is naturally more gifted and just as hard a worker. dorian would lose.

[Hulkster]

nd just post a pic were dorian looks better in the mm, side chest, front double bi, i will concede lat spread is a tie but back DOUBLE BICEPS is ronnies, his back is better at worst as good but his biceps destroy dorians. ronnie wins all these poses, and possibly abs and THIGHS since is thighs are vastly superior in size-sweep and cuts. problem is you cant, ronnie is clearly superior then dorian, it is so obvious from the pictures. dorian deserves all the credit in the world for taking mediocre overall genetics and structure and winning, but ronnie is naturally more gifted and just as hard a worker. dorian would lose.

exactly.

problem is, everyone has been telling ND this for hundreds of pages, but he just won't listen

[NarcissisticDeity]

nd just post a pic were dorian looks better in the mm, side chest, front double bi, i will concede lat spread is a tie but back DOUBLE BICEPS is ronnies, his back is better at worst as good but his biceps destroy dorians. ronnie wins all these poses, and possibly abs and THIGHS since is thighs are vastly superior in size-sweep and cuts. problem is you cant, ronnie is clearly superior then dorian, it is so obvious from the pictures. dorian deserves all the credit in the world for taking mediocre overall genetics and structure and winning, but ronnie is naturally more gifted and just as hard a worker. dorian would lose.

I took you seriously until you said the latspread is a tie and then I realized you're insane !! I posted pics of Yates in the mandatories and post the IFBB juding criteria for the mandatories and guess what Yates is the clear winner in the front & rear latspreads , side chest and side triceps , abdominal and thigh , and back double biceps , mostmuscular would probably go to Ronnie but he's still missing calves and I'd give the front double biceps to Ronnie , but keep in mind Yates scored almost perfect scores in every single one of his Olympia wins , you know what that means? he looked better than everyone in the mandatory poses 

[NarcissisticDeity]

exactly.

problem is, everyone has been telling ND this for hundreds of pages, but he just won't listen

again strawmen  1996 not his best Year and this is supposed to prove your point? keep this in mind sport , Yates almost scored striaght firsts in every single one of his Olympia wins 

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[Hulkster]

but keep in mind Yates scored almost perfect scores in every single one of his Olympia wins , you know what that means? he looked better than everyone in the mandatory poses

how you can even type such utter bullshit knowing what pics are out there just unreal

[Hulkster]

ND do you honestly believe that dorian really deserved all those perfect scores?

[NarcissisticDeity]

how you can even type such utter bullshit knowing what pics are out there just unreal

Yawn I love when you post 1995 pics lol no one was close in 1995 , wait no one was close ever lol but in 95 it was like 93 all over again .

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND do you honestly believe that dorian really deserved all those perfect scores?

in 1997 NO I don't even think he should have won !

[suckmymuscle]

 
 Wll, we'll have to agree to disagree. I think that most people can see that Dorian's gut was never even close to that of Ronnie's in 2003. Hell, even in 1997 Dorian's gut still couldn't compare with Ronnie's, let alone at his best. You ahve just demonstrated that what "looking" is far from an accurate way to evaluate something. This is especuially true considering the obvious fat that Ronnie's gut dwarfed Dorian's...and yet you still can't see it!
 
  Because I don't care. Since it's you who brough that up in the first place, then it relies on you to verify if your own assertion is factual.

  You made a big fucking deal out of the fact that 21" equals 52.5 centimeters and not 52. Well, putting aside the fact that this is picking at straws because the difference is infinitesimal, I made the point that I said that I said that Dorian's arms are either 52 or 53 centimeters. So, they could actually be slightly bigger than 21".

  Again, the quote I saw was that Dorian's arms were either 52 or 53 centimeters, so I just rounded it to 21". You see, unlike you, I'm not preoccupied with precision since it is irrelvantg in this case. It's not like we're calculating the trajectory of a space probe, in which case taking into account measures to decimal houses is required. This is bodybuilding, for f**k sake! No shit that 2.5" is more than 2". The issue is two: first, Dorian's arms could actually be slightly bigger than 21", and secondly, halsf an inch is insignificant of a difference since both their arms were over 20". I'm not even bringing up the fact that Ronnie's overrall arm size advantage is only visible from the front while contracting the biceps.

  But the issue here is not number of pics. Did you do a mental arithmatic average of how wide their lats "appear" to you and then came up with a visual average of their respective lat widths? Then you compared them in your mind and came to the conclusion that they were the same? The issue here is that a mental estimate of lat width based on many pics can be just as wrong as that made by looking at a single one. My estimate, at least, tries to be factual and logical instead of simply a guesstimate. Nice try, kid, you've failed again miserably.

  I never claimed to be a genius; I claimed that I got high scores on I.Q tests. Only someone possesed a sophomoric understanding of intelligence would regard a score at a test as such. Genius has a lot more to do with devergent thinking than with convergent one. For instance, Francis Crick, one of the discoveres of the DNA structure, had an I.Q of only about 115. Yet, he was undoubtedly a genius, because he proved his intelligence by being creative in the real word. As another example, Richard Feynman, physics Nobelist, scored an I.Q of only 125. While this is clearly above average, it is much less than you would expect from the second most brilliant theoretical physicist of the Twentieth Century. I.Q tests measures one's ability to solve a very large number of relatively simple logical problems in a short span of time. They do not measure profound thought, or creativity.

  Ok.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

  NeoSperminole, you cun.t, I'm still waiting for your reply to this post of mine, where I own your ass for the gazillionth time.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

had this pic been snapped 2/10ths of a second later, dorian would have been owned by everyone onstage at the same time, just like in that 92 shot!

[suckmymuscle]

  Oh, so now you put the markings of a ruler at the pictures of them and claim that they had the same lat width. This is absolutely worthless to measure their lat widths for a very simple reason: pics as well as visual evaluations, can be respectively manipulated and deceiving. Ronnie's waist was smaller than Dorian's from the back, and this makes his lats appear wider than they really are. His muscles are also rounder. So, looking at them is far from an accurate way of evaluating their respective widths. Now, if you had put that ruler on their lats, and it showed the exact same distance from the two outernmost extrmeities, then you'd be correct. Pictures, however, can be manipulated in several ways:

 - They can be compressed.

 - The bodybuilders can be at slightly different angles facing the camera, which outers the measure.

 - The bodybuilder can be either closer or further from the camera, and this also alters how big they appear in the pictures.

  As an example, a huge mountain appears to be small from a large distance. If either Dorian or Ronnie are not aligned exactly in the same plane and distance from the camera when the pictures were taken, one could appear to be smaller than the other. Also, the ruler has to be positioned at exacty the outernmost point of their respective lats for the estimate to be reliable. Try again.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

 

  And also to this one, where I give you arguadbly the most brutal owning in the history of the getbig.com boards.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

in 1997 NO I don't even think he should have won !

so you think Dorian actually deserved perfect scores in 94, 95 and 96 even though there are ample pics where he is getting owned?

[pumpster]

I give you Yates, "the world's best-built man".  

Let's compare..Yates once again devoid of arm size or definition..forgettable smooth delts as well..non-existent traps..


ND explain the domination of Yates seen here..

[NarcissisticDeity]

had this pic been snapped 2/10ths of a second later, dorian would have been owned by everyone onstage at the same time, just like in that 92 shot!

Hulkster here is your 2/10ths and he wasn't owned by anyone in 1992 he was above and beyond the clear winner , you make very weak statements .

[NarcissisticDeity]

so you think Dorian actually deserved perfect scores in 94, 95 and 96 even though there are ample pics where he is getting owned?

In 94 he didn't get didn't get a perfect score in one of the posing rounds but still won it !! 95 he deserved his straight firsts and same in 1996 , 1997 I don't agree with .

[NarcissisticDeity]

I give you Yates, "the world's best-built man".  

Let's compare..Yates once again devoid of arm size or definition..forgettable smooth delts as well..


ND explain the domination of Yates seen here..

See Hulkster for setting up strawmen to knock down to try and prove a point , a crappy scan vs a video still  Ronnie was at the 1996 Olympia and was hammered down by NOT just Yates but a host of others and we're not comparing Yates 96 to Ronnie its either 93 or 95 !!

[pumpster]

His facial expression here looks about as deluded as ND's..LOL


Coleman domination..

[Hulkster]

how do you get a perfect score in the symmetry round with a double bi like this?

 


I mean, traditionally, both the symmetry round and the posing round has been a "gift" to the winner of the muscularity round, but this is going a bit far...

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie is far better than Dorian.

Sorry to break this to you.

Well we really can't take your word on it because your sensibility is out of sync , you compared Marky Mark to Bob Paris lol

[Hulkster]

Matt you definitely need to add the 99 Ronnie screencaps to your site.