Apparently, you seem to have trouble following a very simple concept. So I will try to make this easier for you to understand.
Unfortunately, I don't think that it's even possible to make something easy enough for you to understand.
Ronnie and Dorian were the same width in 96. Pause the video at the 45 sec. mark.
Again, you're basing you assesment on video evidence, which doesen't mean shit because it's far from accurate for the resons I already explained to you. Furthermore, it is not true that Dorian and Ronnie were the same width in 1996. In reality, it is Ronnie who was roughly the same size in 1996 as he was in 1999, and in both cases he was slightly narrower than Dorian. Stop pretending that you're smart when it's obvious you don't have a fucking clue about what you're talking about.
Ronnie added more size from 96 to 99. However, let's just say for argument's sake that his lat width didn't increase at all during those 3 yrs (I'm being generous here).
What growth?! Ronnie was around the 250+ lbs range for the 1996 CPC, about the same he weighted at the 1999 Olympia, give or take a couple of pounds. Then you post a stupid pic of a little figure drawed around their lat areas and this is supposed to prove what? Does this indicate the respective surface areas of their lats? No. Is the figure drawed in exactly the same spot on both bodybuilders? No! You're seriously deluded if you think this proves anything at all. Nice try, kid, but I think you should go back to school.
This would mean that Ronnie and Dorian were the same width.
Because you say so? f**k you. There's no evidence that proves your assertion besides poorly imaginated conjectures. What if he did grow between 1996 and 1999 and his lats still remained smaller than Dorian's? Waht if the growth, exmplified by the addition of a couple of pounds, occured entirely elsewhere? Again, I already told you that I do
not accept either video or photographic material as evidence of that. There are simply too many confounding variables that make a purely visual assesment reliable.
There is also a wealth of pictorial evidence that, coincidentally, all show they have identical lat width. Before you cry "bias," need I remind you that Pubes made, not 1, but 2 comparisons that prove what I have been saying all along?
You entire assertion is disproven for having been based on a false premisse. Namely: photographs are not adequate tools to accurately asses lat width. Just because Ronnie's lats might look wider than Dorian's, to
you, does not mean that a tape measurer would say the same. Next!
Now Ronnie in 03 was even wider than he was in 99. Even a blind man can see this. It follows that if Ronnie was wider than before, then it also means he was wider than Dorian.
Again, this does nothing to disprove anything I said. He was wider in 2003, yes, but he could have been narrower than Dorian in 1999. How can you determine exactly the amount of growth he experienced between those years? Remember that I never said that Dorian's lats were perceptibly wider than that of Ronnie's in 1999; I said that, based on a personal assesment, I believe than it was slightly wider in absolute terms. Maybe the difference was too small to be perceptible to the human eyes, and this is exactly the reaoson why you have trouble recognizing the possibility that Dorian was wider.
Now, what tells you that Ronnie was wider than Dorian in 2003? Your
opinion, based on visual evidence. Again, that's not good enough. I personally belive that they were roughly equivalent in width in 2003, although Ronnie had a slight advantage in thickness. Most of those 30 lbs Ronnie gained in the off-season of 2003 were glutes, hams and above everything else, abdominal distension.
bullshit, how can you honestly say this looks balanced? Dorian had the back of a 280 lbs man with the arms of a 200 lbs man and the legs of a 240 lbs man. "Superbly proportional" my ass. 
Copying my expression I see. Regardless, this is not true. Dorian's back was far more in sync with his body, symmetry-wise, than Ronnie: humoungous legs, with quads that overpowered his physique from the front and huge glutes and hams that overpoiwered it from the back.
what the hell are you talking about? His glutes and hams don't overpower his back in these pics.
Are you denying that Ronnie's ass is the largest in the history of bodybuilding? His ass would look big in a 500 lbs sumo wrestler, let alone in a 287 lbs bodybuilder. Geez!
And his quads don't overpower his torso here.
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! What a fucking retard!
I already have with pics. It's not my fault you refuse to open your eyes.
My eyes are wide open, and I'm in a state of shock that a man can have an ass that large.
no, I told you to shorten your posts or I wouldn't respond. I gave you plenty of warnings. However, you continued to keep typing marathon posts. Then you say I'm too scared to reply, you dumb bitch. It's not my fault if you are too retarded to use fewer words.
Lame excuses. Coward. Dumbass. It was much harder for me to type it than for you to read it. They say that fortitude is a virtue. Oh, well...
more excuses
Like the excuse that you won't reply to my posts because they're too long? Nice try.
I mentioned how many yrs. I've been following bodybuilding to lend some credence to my posts. I wanted to differentiate myself from, say, a person who's been following the sport for only a few months.
And immediately hereafter, you criticized me for doing the same thing. So if it's immaterial to mention for how many years you've ben following the sport, then why did you mention it, dumbass?
I've been to bodybuilding shows before. I've also competed in them. So I think I have a pretty good understanding of what physiques the judges are looking for.
Apparently not, since you believe that Ronnie's monster distended gut would not be regarded as a severe symmetrical liability at an unbiased contest. The only reason why he won, in 2003, is because the judges ignored the official I.F.B.B booklet and gave him the nod for muscularity alone. Just like they did to Dorian in 1997.
my point is that simply attending bodybuilding shows doesn't make you more knowledgable, per se. All you're doing is just watching. You learn more about something by educating yourself.
No, but attending bodybuilding shows and watching it being judged gives you a good idea of what the judges are looking for. It also allows you to make tons of visual comparison in your mind and understand why the judges rewarded one physique over another.
I can attend 200 football games, shuttle launches or bodybuilding shows, it doesn't matter.
Again, terrible ananlogy: bodybuilding shows are not rocket launches or football games.
Comparisons are involved in evaluating a bodybuilding show, which is not the case with a shuttle launch or football game. Do you learn about how rockets launching
look like by watching them launch? Absolutely. Do you learn about what the goals of footlball and how the players play the game by watching it? Maybe not, because there is knowledge involved here which is not demonstrated simply by the players playing, such as some rules of the game, etc. But do you lean something? Yes.
A person who attends only 1 show and educates himself by talking to people and reading up on bodybuilding can know more than a person who attends 200 shows just to watch.
But all things considered, the person who educates himself and attends 200 shows will know far more than the educated one who only attended one show. Why? More comparisons, more perspective from the judges, etc.
I already posted my pics on getbig, you dipshit. I don't need to post them again. I've recieved several compliments from people. Why don't you post your pic? C'mon, don't be shy you little bitch of a man.
Just like you said that you would destroy me at an intellectual discussion, and it was I who destroyed you instead? C'mon, I'm still waiting for your reply to my response, you know, the one you said I wouldn't give because I chickened out from arguing with you and your mighty intellectual capacity.
I want to see the physique you built with your supreme knowledge of bodybuilding.
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Oh my, now I've seen you pic. Damn, you should be ashmed of calling yourself a bodybuilding fan. Funny that a guy who uses such a pseudo-authoritarian tone and usuccessfully tries to appear pedantic would actually post his pic and embarass himself like that by allowing his body to do the talking.
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