Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[pumpster]

Dorian's scores reflect his superiority , deal with it 

Underwhelming.

[NarcissisticDeity]

no it isn't.

having a great back means looking good from the waist up, as in the rear double bi pose.

Having great arms is an integral part of having a great back.

Calves are not related to having a great back specifically at all.

Its so easy to prove you wrong !

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.


Back Double Biceps (see Figure 4)
Standing with his back to the judges, the competitor will
bend the arms and wrists as in the Front Double Biceps
pose, and will place one foot back, resting on the toes.
He will then contract the arm muscles as well as the
muscles of the shoulders, upper and lower back, thigh
and calf muscles.

The judge will first survey the arm muscles and then do
the head-to-foot survey, during which there are more
muscle groups to look at than in all of the other poses.
This includes the neck, deltoids, biceps, triceps, forearm,
trapezius, teres, infraspinatus, erector spinae, external
obliques, latissimus dorsi, gluteus, thigh biceps, and
calves. This pose, probably more than the others, will
help the judge to determine the quality of the
competitor’s muscle density, definition, and overall
balance.


Keep cherry-picking the criteria all you want but according to the above Dorian owns Ronnie !

[NarcissisticDeity]

Underwhelming.

LMFAO Yates has the best back on the planet and you have the balls to say underwhelming , first of all he's in transition and second his conditioning is the dryest anyone at that weight has been.

[pumpster]

LMFAO Yates has the best back on the planet and you have the balls to say underwhelming , first of all he's in transition and second his conditioning is the dryest anyone at that weight has been.

As ND sez, it takes balls and i've got em. Here again we see why Yates didn't like these shots, because of the evident weaknesses exposed:

[NarcissisticDeity]

As ND sez, it takes balls and i've got em. Here again we see why Yates didn't like these shots, because of the evident weaknesses exposed:

You're full of it , his crushes everyone from the back his back is without rival period , there is nothing wrong with that shot , you may think there is but in reality there isn't your personal preference is high-peaked biceps and because Yates doesn't have them you think he sucks , thats the most pathetic logic , you know nothing when it comes to bodybuilding.


check out this back shot , no GUT on Yates and he's crunched down so it would be more evident than standing straight up like Coleman. 

[Hulkster]

ND, Dorian 94 had one of the largest guts ever see onstage, ever.

[Palpatine Q]

You're full of it , his crushes everyone from the back his back is without rival period , there is nothing wrong with that shot , you may think there is but in reality there isn't your personal preference is high-peaked biceps and because Yates doesn't have them you think he sucks , thats the most pathetic logic , you know nothing when it comes to bodybuilding.


check out this back shot , no GUT on Yates and he's crunched down so it would be more evident than standing straight up like Coleman. 

Ronnie's arms simply annhilate Dorian's. To say otherwise is pure idiocy.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, Dorian 94 had one of the largest guts ever see onstage, ever.

No he didn't not by a longshot now you're just trolling , he has thick obliques but get serious .

[Hulkster]

Ronnie's arms simply annhilate Dorian's. To say otherwise is pure idiocy.

according to Suckmymuscle, dorian's arms look better from more angles than Ronnie's 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie's arms simply annhilate Dorian's. To say otherwise is pure idiocy.

In what terms of size? I'm not debating that.

[Hulkster]

In what terms of size? I'm not debating that.

in terms of size, quality, detail, refinment, vascularity, shape....etc etc etc.

its pure idiocy to even compare Dorian's arms to Ronnie's, like Groink said.

[Hulkster]

no comparison

[NarcissisticDeity]

in terms of size, quality, detail, refinment, vascularity, shape....etc etc etc.

its pure idiocy to even compare Dorian's arms to Ronnie's, like Groink said.

Dorian crushes Ronnie on triceps and forearms.

Ronnie can't touch this shot.

Check forearms 

[Hulkster]

ronnie even owns yates in the arms crossed pose LOL

seriously ND, there is no point in arguing what is not debatable:

ronnie's arms put dorian's to shame.

everyone can see that


everyone is trying to tell you that.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ronnie even owns yates in the arms crossed pose LOL

seriously ND, there is no point in arguing what is not debatable:

ronnie's arms put dorian's to shame.

everyone can see that


everyone is trying to tell you that.

Idiot who is arguing they're bigger? not me Biceps NO CONEST triceps Yates , forearms Yates overall size Ronnie . you have nothing.

[Hulkster]

Idiot who is arguing they're bigger? not me Biceps NO CONEST triceps Yates , forearms Yates overall size Ronnie . you have nothing.

LOL

now ND is trying to say that "we have nothing" when we say Ronnie's arms crush dorian's

how delusional can you get

[Hulkster]

 

thanks to fist302 for these cool shots

[pumpster]

In that shot, 2 of Haney's "20s" = one of Coleman's arms. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL

now ND is trying to say that "we have nothing" when we say Ronnie's arms crush dorian's

how delusional can you get

You have nothing , no one is arguing size , Yates crushes Ronnie on triceps shape and forearms Ronnie has much better biceps you're claiming victory over a non argument Ronnie has bigger biceps/triceps overall , Yet  it does nothing for his balance & proportion .

[NarcissisticDeity]

thanks to fist302 for these cool shots

Not even close Yates is just crushes him the funny part if you can't see it.

[pumpster]

Dorian crushes Ronnie on triceps and forearms.

Ronnie can't touch this shot.

Check forearms 

ND has ALREADY ADMITTED that Coleman's tris were bigger, so this latest claim is utter tripe.

Empty UNPROVEN rhetoric from the DESPERATE. 

[Hulkster]

You have nothing , no one is arguing size , Yates crushes Ronnie on triceps shape and forearms Ronnie has much better biceps you're claiming victory over a non argument Ronnie has bigger biceps/triceps overall , Yet  it does nothing for his balance & proportion .

but see this is your problem:

you cannot isolate the triceps and forarms individually, and you cannot forget about the deltoids, which are as integral to good arm development as good arms are to back development.

when you isolate the muscle groups as you do, you forget that how they "fit" together, as well as overall shape, detail and vascularity is very important.

for example, you say Yates crushes Ronnie on triceps and forearms and has merely smaller biceps, problem is on paper this sounds great.

in REALITY for the reasons I listed, it is total BULLSHIT when you assess arm development:

Ronnie is so far above dorian in the arm department it is not even funny:

[pobrecito]

Arms mean hardly anything. Ronnie does have better arms overall than Yates due to supreme biceps, however, this really wouldn't be much of an advantage in a contest. In essence, that is what the judges are saying based on the quote from the judge in 94 that Dorian's bicep tear really didnt alter his physique at all.

[Hulkster]

Arms mean hardly anything. Ronnie does have better arms overall than Yates due to supreme biceps, however, this really wouldn't be much of an advantage in a contest. In essence, that is what the judges are saying based on the quote from the judge in 94 that Dorian's bicep tear really didnt alter his physique at all.

1. saying that arms hardly mean anything in bb competition is one of the dumbest things I have ever read.

2. just goes to show you how bad the judging really was in 94 when a judge can say that a torn bi that affects one of the most important poses in bodybuilding THIS MUCH "doesn't really alter his physique at all"

[NarcissisticDeity]

but see this is your problem:

you cannot isolate the triceps and forarms individually, and you cannot forget about the deltoids, which are as integral to good arm development as good arms are to back development.

when you isolate the muscle groups as you do, you forget that how they "fit" together, as well as overall shape, detail and vascularity is very important.

for example, you say Yates crushes Ronnie on triceps and forearms and has merely smaller biceps, problem is on paper this sounds great.

in REALITY for the reasons I listed, it is total BULLSHIT when you assess arm development:

Ronnie is so far above dorian in the arm department it is not even funny:

You claimed the same nonsense about Ronnie's back its showed new level of development thats never been seen before lol Ronnie is clearly ahead of Dorian on terms on bicep devlopment NOT triceps development or forearm development

and Yates advantage in the triceps and forearms can be seen in the side triceps pose , couple that with balance and despite his biceps/triceps NOT being as big as Ronnie's his overall poses simply outclass Ronnie , Dorian side triceps pose is leaps and bounds ahead of Ronnie , the front double bicep is another shot that despite not having better biceps his overall shot is very competitive although I would say Ronnie's outstanding biceps give him the edge in this pose but he still falls short on balance & proportion and yes they look for calves in this pose as well.