Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

Assinine reasoning; the same could be said about Coleman's ab/thigh in 1999. How did he get a perfect score?

ah but the arms on dorian's ab shot is but one example.

Dorian in some of his post tear years had many weak spots and still received perfect scores.

for instance, post tear, his ab shot, side chest shot, front double bi shot and hell, even REAR double bi shot (see 94 or 97) left a lot to be desired.

In Ronnie 99, his ab shot was weak. But that is about it.

 even his calves were not a standout weakspot yet:

[NarcissisticDeity]

Yeah, everyone who doesn't agree with you or have their own opinion is dumb. I guess thousands of members on here are all idiots like me. Yeah, what a genius you are. How could you live with yourself? lol. Must be hard.

No your opinion doesn't make you dumb your claims do  like your claim that Sergio beat Bill Pearl every time they met yet when in fact they met just once and Pearl beat Sergio , that my friend makes your a fucking idiot for claiming to have knowledge of something you don't .

simple? 

[Hulkster]

Its a tough call:

 

[Iceman1981]

Don't flatter yourself sport I don't care that much , you've already proven yourself as an idiot so you and pumpster have a lot in common already lol

Yeah, I've proven myself as an idiot like the thousands of other members on here who don't agree with you. You still haven't brought your proof out in the open for all of us to see. Next time don't make any accusations without any proof.

[Hulkster]

holy shit jocelyn has better quad cuts on his right quad than dorian!

remarkable.

[pobrecito]

 even his calves were not a standout weakspot yet:

delusional That's all that can be said about you.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ah but the arms on dorian's ab shot is but one example.

Dorian in some of his post tear years had many weak spots and still received perfect scores.

for instance, post tear, his ab shot, side chest shot, front double bi shot and hell, even REAR double bi shot (see 94 or 97) left a lot to be desired.

In Ronnie 99, his ab shot was weak. But that is about it.

 even his calves were not a standout weakspot yet:

Again your opinion doesn't constitute as evidence , scorecards do , you say his shots in those years leave a lot to be desired and I say you have a rookie-knowledge bodybuilding and are basing your opinions on your personal preferences and biases I can back up my claims you can't I own you 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Yeah, I've proven myself as an idiot like the thousands of other members on here who don't agree with you. You still haven't brought your proof out in the open for all of us to see. Next time don't make any accusations without any proof.

Oh I already proved you're a fucking idiot thats a done deal , and again I don't care if your pumpster's dummy account even though you're a dummy. 

[Hulkster]

Again your opinion doesn't constitute as evidence , scorecards do , you say his shots in those years leave a lot to be desired and I say you have a rookie-knowledge bodybuilding and are basing your opinions on your personal preferences and biases I can back up my claims you can't I own you 

so you are saying that the only thing that matters is the scorecards, even if the actual physique is obviously not up to the standard that would be expected given the amazing scores?

that is retarded.

For the perfect scores to be VALIDATED you need to have corroberating proof in the form of pics/videos that show the amazing physique that was WORTHY of these amazing scores.

for many of dorian's post tear scores, this has yet to happen.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Its a tough call:

 

Hulkster when you make these posts you concede defeat lol

[Iceman1981]

No your opinion doesn't make you dumb your claims do  like your claim that Sergio beat Bill Pearl every time they met yet when in fact they met just once and Pearl beat Sergio , that my friend makes your a fucking idiot for claiming to have knowledge of something you don't .

simple? 

Here is what I wrote,

"Everyone knows that was the biggest "GIFT"  Bill Pearl got.  That was his last competition he would enter. He was an old man. There is no way he should of won that competition. Sergio kicks his butt at all times."

I didn't say Sergio beat Pearl (everytime) they met, I said "Sergio kicks his but at (all) times". I didn't say everytime. When you learn to read, get back to me. For now, keep your bickering to a minimum.

[NarcissisticDeity]

so you are saying that the only thing that matters is the scorecards, even if the actual physique is obviously not up to the standard that would be expected given the amazing scores?

that is retarded.

For the perfect scores to be VALIDATED you need to have corroberating proof in the form of pics/videos that show the amazing physique that was WORTHY of these amazing scores.

for many of dorian's post tear scores, this has yet to happen.

The scorecards are the end resdult of what transpired , you're basing an entire contest on a few crappy scans and compressed video , its as stupid as one can get . lets see who shall I believe the judges or Hulkster ? Hmmmmmmmmmmm thats a tuff one , someone who was there or someone who wasn't ! Hmmmm someone who knows what they're doing or someone who believes lumpiness and x-frame are criteria lol my opinion doesn't matter your opinion doesn't matter the 13 judges opinions matter and ironically they all choose Yates as the clear superior , just because you don't get it doesn't change the facts.

[pobrecito]

Nice gut.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Here is what I wrote,

"Everyone knows that was the biggest "GIFT"  Bill Pearl got.  That was his last competition he would enter. He was an old man. There is no way he should of won that competition. Sergio kicks his butt at all times."

I didn't say Sergio beat Pearl (everytime) they met, I said "Sergio kicks his but at (all) times". I didn't say everytime. When you learn to read, get back to me. For now, keep your bickering to a minimum.

Sergio kicks his but at all times , all times . seriously it wasn't ALL TIMES it wasn't ANY TIME you had nothing to work with then and you have nothing to work with now.

[Iceman1981]

Sergio kicks his but at all times , all times . seriously it wasn't ALL TIMES it wasn't ANY TIME you had nothing to work with then and you have nothing to work with now.

I'm not going to argue with you. I know what I said. No other member on here said anything to what I posted before because they all know Christmas came early for Pearl. So peace out and have fun talking about men all day. Oh by the way, we are all still waiting for your "proof", lol.

[pobrecito]

Yates kicking Coleman's ass....Coleman looking like a hot air baloon

[NarcissisticDeity]

I'm not going to argue with you. I know what I said. No other member on here said anything to what I posted before because they all know Christmas came early for Pearl. So peace out and have fun talking about men all day. Oh by the way, we are all still waiting for your "proof", lol.

Oh please now your sound like pumpster Pearl got beat and you have NO Weider interference to fall back on seeing as it was an NABBA contest , the best man one and it wasn't a soft Sergio.

[Hulkster]

you're basing an entire contest on a few crappy scans and compressed video , its as stupid as one can get

a few crappy scans and compressed video? there are hundreds on this thread alone

are you seriously trying to argue that yates' flaws are the result of bad quality pics and not actual flaws in real life?

ps by your logic, all the shots of ronnie in this thread are also crappy scans and compressed video, and he looks amazing in most of them.

so your "crappy scans/videos" argument just when out the window.

In fact, most of the dorian pics on this thread have been of MUCH better quality than the Ronnie pics, and Dorian STILL looks worse...

[NarcissisticDeity]

a few crappy scans and compressed video? there are hundreds on this thread alone

are you seriously trying to argue that yates' flaws are the result of bad quality pics and not actual flaws in real life?

ps by your logic, all the shots of ronnie in this thread are also crappy scans and compressed video, and he looks amazing in most of them.

so your "crappy scans/videos" argument just when out the window.

In fact, most of the dorian pics on this thread have been of MUCH better quality than the Ronnie pics, and Dorian STILL looks worse...

No I'm saying your opinion is based on 1/10th the evidence and thats laughable , your argument is very weak in the face of reality , history , facts and statistics .

[NarcissisticDeity]

A great shot of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr Olympia

[pobrecito]

S-O-F-T

[Hulkster]

No I'm saying your opinion is based on 1/10th the evidence and thats laughable , your argument is very weak in the face of reality , history , facts and statistics .

it might be based on 1/10th of the evidence, but so is your anti Ronnie argument.

fact is, there are hundreds of other pics out there for all these contests and most of them will never see this thread.

One thing is clear: as more and more scans and shots of Yates' post tear years come up, the harder it is to argue for his incredible scores being valid.

Hell, as soon as the scans (mostly from you) from bb dungeon were posted, this started to happen.

[pobrecito]

Even at Ronnie's best, Dorian still has a better rear lat spread when you analyze the whole physique.

[Hulkster]

Even at Ronnie's best, Dorian still has a better rear lat spread when you analyze the whole physique.

in other words, Dorian has a better rear lat spread if you ignore the back...

[NarcissisticDeity]

it might be based on 1/10th of the evidence, but so is your anti Ronnie argument.

fact is, there are hundreds of other pics out there for all these contests and most of them will never see this thread.

One thing is clear: as more and more scans and shots of Yates' post tear years come up, the harder it is to argue for his incredible scores being valid.

Hell, as soon as the scans (mostly from you) from bb dungeon were posted, this started to happen.

You couldn't be any more wrong , you're so wrapped up in your bias towards Dorian you're projecting it on me I don't hate Ronnie thats a myth you keep trying to push and its simply not true , I think he's an awesome bodybuilder , I'm a HUGE Flex Wheeler fan yet I didn't complain when Ronnie beat him in 1998 , I think Ronnie looks fantastic in 1999 in 2001 but past that its all down hill

by me commenting on his weaknesses and flaws don't mistake that as ' anti-Ronnie ' I personally feel at their respective bests Dorian would edge out Ronnie , I never once claimed Ronnie is the most overrated bodybuilder of all time and he should have lost at his best , etc

I scanned most of the pics on this thread both BAD and GOOD of Ronnie and Dorian , your opinion on the pictures doesn't constitute evidence when it contradicts the judges nod , Hulkster its this simple 13 different judges unaware of the other scores all came to the same conclusion you will never once be able to counter this , this is check mate on this topic

And post tear 1995 I mean you've got to be kidding me if you don't think he should have got perfect scores in 95 other than the shorter bicep Dorian matches or even surpasses his 93 form , 96 a little less so and 97 he was off !! but reguardless your opinion doesn't trump the judges .