Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

Hulkster obviously can't separate preference from reality.

Shawn Ray was never a threat to win the Mr. Olympia.

MAYBE if he had proportionate calves, about 30lbs more muscle, and a better back. Then maybe he could have beaten Dorian.

Otherwise, get off Shawn's jock.

this is one of the most retarded posts in the entire thread:

 

[pobrecito]

this is one of the most retarded posts in the entire thread:

 

Shawn looks like an absolute midget in all those shots. Shawn was never in the picture due to this, especially during the posedown, he was blown off the stage.

Shawn and Nasser looking like soggy feces compared to Dorian.

[NarcissisticDeity]

this is one of the most retarded posts in the entire thread:

 

Whenever you post a pic of Shawn in the latspread or back double biceps shot and claim he's beating Yates its just one of the most moronic statements you've made I think Shawn compared very well in the front double biceps pose but there are other criteria that favor Yates .

[Hulkster]

Hulkster get serious , Dorian's biceps didn't lack shape , development ( compared to Ronnie yes ) or size , his triceps don't lack size , shape or development , and his forearms don't lack size , shape or development , his arms overall aren't lacking ANYWHERE near anything compared to Ronnie's calves , pathetic even trying to compare the two honestly.

irony alert.

[pobrecito]

Why is every shot of Coleman cut off at the knees

[Hulkster]

Why is every shot of Coleman cut off at the knees

funny since only 2 of the 4 are

[NarcissisticDeity]

irony alert.

Your point is? You like Ronnie's arms better? so that means he'd win? lol Ronnie's biceps/triceps are bigger so he'd win? great logic !!

[Hulkster]

Your point is? You like Ronnie's arms better? so that means he'd win? lol Ronnie's biceps/triceps are bigger so he'd win? great logic !!

you are so simple.

it is ironic that you are now criticizing the coleman side for comparing ronnie's calves to dorian's when the entire board was criticizing you guys a little while ago for comparing dorian's arms to Ronnie's.

ps if you think that size is the only difference between dorian's and ronnie's arms there is no hope for you:



 

[NarcissisticDeity]

you are so simple.

it is ironic that you are now criticizing the coleman side for comparing ronnie's calves to dorian's when the entire board was criticizing you guys a little while ago for comparing dorian's arms to Ronnie's.

ps if you think that size is the only difference between dorian's and ronnie's arms there is no hope for you:

 

I love when you post such retarded slanted comparisons that are blantantly obvious , you post a picture of Dorian obviously not at his best curling and Ronnie lol this comparison proves you're an idiot , you're stating the fucking-obvious NO fucking kidding Ronnie's biceps/triceps are bigger lol

Let me try this lol " WOW LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE IN CALVES DORIAN IS OWNING RONNIE "

[Hulkster]

I love when you post such retarded slanted comparisons that are blantantly obvious , you post a picture of Dorian obviously not at his best curling and Ronnie lol this comparison proves you're an idiot , you're stating the fucking-obvious NO fucking kidding Ronnie's biceps/triceps are bigger lol

Let me try this lol " WOW LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE IN CALVES DORIAN IS OWNING RONNIE "

yet again, the whole point went right over your head as usual.

its not just that Ronnie's arms are bigger its about the QUALITY differences as well:

[NarcissisticDeity]

yet again, the whole point went right over your head as usual.

its not just that Ronnie's arms are bigger its about the QUALITY differences as well:

You've tried in vain many times to say Dorian lacks quality its junk its a junk claim . quality , with balance & proportion = straight firsts 

[NarcissisticDeity]

No contest quality top to bottom plus balance & proportion and density , notice how Dorian's obliques actually help this pose compared to Ronnie , notice the difference in forearms , notice you can clearly see Dorian's serratus and intercostles and Ronnie's midsection is smooth , also notice how Ronnie keeps his knees slightly bent out of fear of exposing his pathetic calves , and it doesn't work because you can clearly see his calf is no where near Mr Olympia caliber ,  I mean how anyone in their right mind thinks that Ronnie could ever stand a chance against Yates in this pose is beyond help.

[Hulkster]

time to debunk another ND anti ronnie myth

ND likes to say that ronnie rarely received perfect scores, when in actual fact,

he recieved perfect scores in:

1998 after the judges noticed him after round 1.

1999 - perfect

2000 - perfect - made kevin look like a child

2001/2 - not perfect - accurate judging unlike during dorian's reign.

2003 -perfect

2004 - change in format - ronnie recieved perfect score in both prejudging rounds, posing round, and the challenge round was weird for everyone.

so, there goes yet another ND anti ronnie myth debunked.

[NarcissisticDeity]

time to debunk another ND anti ronnie myth

ND likes to say that ronnie rarely received perfect scores, when in actual fact,

he recieved perfect scores in:

1998 after the judges noticed him after round 1.

1999 - perfect

2000 - perfect - made kevin look like a child

2001/2 - not perfect - accurate judging unlike during dorian's reign.

2003 -perfect

2004 - change in format - ronnie recieved perfect score in both prejudging rounds, posing round, and the challenge round was weird for everyone.

so, there goes yet another ND anti ronnie myth debunked.

1998 he did NOT recieve straight firsts which is a perfect score , in fact Ronnie won by just 3 points one of the closest Mr Olympia contests in history - 32-35

1999 straight firsts from all the judges - 20

2000 again straight firsts - Kevin feels he won - 20

2001 - Oh Boy lol 4 point ' win ' - 28 - 32

2002 lost BOTH the posing rounds and edge out Kev in the prejudging - 29 - 38

2003 - straight firsts - 20

2004 - Ronnie won by just 3 points period end of sentence and he did NOT get straight firsts - 21- 24

2005 - clear winner but NOT with straight firsts 22- 38

2006 - clear loser 38 - 22

No nice try , you need more than that to beat me kid I do my homework. 

[Hulkster]

1998 scorecard:

1 Ronnie Coleman USA 17 5 5 5 32 
2 Flex Wheeler USA 5 10 10 10 35

yes he won by 3 points. but look at the distribution of points. Once the judges noticed him, he destroyed Flex, who no doubt recieved a perfect 5 in round one based on momentum and politcs alone. Hell the title has his name on it, or so he said. the judges bought into the hype, then realized their mistake.  the scorecard reflects this realization.

now tell me, had the judges noticed ronnie in round 1 do you think he would have recieved a 5 as well?

you bet.

[NarcissisticDeity]

1994 the caption says it all

[NarcissisticDeity]

1998 scorecard:

1 Ronnie Coleman USA 17 5 5 5 32 
2 Flex Wheeler USA 5 10 10 10 35

yes he won by 3 points. but look at the distribution of points. Once the judges noticed him, he destroyed Flex, who no doubt recieved a perfect 5 in round one based on momentum and politcs alone. Hell the title has his name on it, or so he said. the judges bought into the hype, then realized their mistake.  the scorecard reflects this realization.

now tell me, had the judges noticed ronnie in round 1 do you think he would have recieved a 5 as well?

you bet.

I love your excuses the final score is all that counts and the final score was 32 - 35 !

You've become quiet good at using excuses and are very fond of them , one problem with the ' politics ' cry if that were the case Flex Wheeler would be the 1998 Mr Olympia so do us a favor and please enough already

[Hulkster]

I love your excuses the final score is all that counts and the final score was 32 - 35 !

You've become quiet good at using excuses and are very fond of them , one problem with the ' politics ' cry if that were the case Flex Wheeler would be the 1998 Mr Olympia so do us a favor and please enough already

you fail to distinguish between an excuse and an accurate observation.

you are telling me that the judges really gave ronnie that low of a score in round one but perfect scores the rest of the contest?

please. its obvious he was overlooked in round one.

no one has ever received that low of a score in round 1 of a Mr.O. and then gone on to get perfect scores the rest of the contest and win the whole thing.

never.

even in 2001 this did not happen:

1 Ronnie Coleman USA 9 9 5 5 28 

a 9 is a whole lot better than a 17.

look at it this way:

intially in round 1 of the Mr.O 98, the judges had ronnie fighting it out for FOURTH and FIFTH place.

you expect me to believe that he was not overlooked?

please.

saying that it is an excuse is just being really really naive.

[NarcissisticDeity]

you fail to distinguish between an excuse and an accurate observation.

you are telling me that the judges really gave ronnie that low of a score in round one but perfect scores the rest of the contest?

please. its obvious he was overlooked in round one.

no one has ever received that low of a score in round 1 of a Mr.O. and then gone on to get perfect scores the rest of the contest and win the whole thing.

never.

even in 2001 this did not happen:

1 Ronnie Coleman USA 9 9 5 5 28 

a 9 is a whole lot better than a 17.

look at it this way:

intially in round 1 of the Mr.O 98, the judges had ronnie fighting it out for FOURTH and FIFTH place.

you expect me to believe that he was not overlooked?

please.

saying that it is an excuse is just being really really naive.

Its all filler , they picked the better man and I'm a Flex Wheeler fan I had no problem with Ronnie beating him but please spare me the ' politics ' claim . Ronnie was fantastic and thats why he won but it was no piece of cake Flex wasn't some push over he regularly beat Ronnie , the judges did the right think but make no mistake it was a close contest and Ronnie is very lucky they judged him fairly and you ever think that some judges may have marked him low for the gyno? 

[Hulkster]

Its all filler , they picked the better man and I'm a Flex Wheeler fan I had no problem with Ronnie beating him but please spare me the ' politics ' claim . Ronnie was fantastic and thats why he won but it was no piece of cake Flex wasn't some push over he regularly beat Ronnie , the judges did the right think but make no mistake it was a close contest and Ronnie is very lucky they judged him fairly and you ever think that some judges may have marked him low for the gyno? 

no, if the judges were picky about gyno they would have been picky about synthol in flex too.

so, how do you explain the fact that after round 1 Ronnie was in between fourth and fifth place and then went on to recieve perfect scores for EVERY round thereafter?

if you can't see the politics in your precious judges in 98 than there is truly no hope for you.

[Hulkster]

in other words, round 1 of the Mr. O. 98 ronnie was drastically overlooked in favor of the heir apparent, Flex.

Luckily the judges realized their mistake and corrected it.

[suckmymuscle]

Listen closely son. My issue with you is that you claimed the long head is "so small that it's irrelevant" in the back relaxed and rear lat spread.

  You said it isn't irrelvant? I stand by what I said 100% retard.

After you realized your mistake, you began to introduce superfluous factors like the medial head and various angles to change the subject. Get that through your f*cking head you mental midget.

  Since I didn't realized any mistake - I don't know what the f**k you're talking about -, you're talking out of your ass. You're such a low I.Qd troll that I somethimes consider if you're being serious with your posts.

ha ha ha, I just proved you wrong and you still insulted me b/c you have nothing better to say. Maybe Dorian's long heads were "teany tiny" but not Ronnie's. The back relaxed and rear lat spread expose any imbalance issues with the long heads.

  Ha ha ha ha ha ha! You continue to insist with the same shit when I have already explained to you en absurdum that the long head of the triceps plays an insignificant role in the rear lat spread and the relaxed  back round. The fact is that the inner triceps head is only visible in it's entirety  on the front double biceps, a fact that you refuse to admit because you want to save your idiot(technical use of the term here: I.Q 75 -) ass from further humiliation.

I proved with pics that Ronnie's brachialis were not overpowered by his triceps, and especially not by his biceps.

  No, you didn't. The fact is Ronnie's brachialis were undrdeveloped in relation to his biceps and triceps.

I even challenged you to circle them for me to demonstrate that you in fact know what the brachialis muscle is. You still haven't attempted my challenge b/c you know you are wrong.

  How exactly is this relevant is beyond me, since anyone can doa google search and find the brachialis in an antomy chart. Duh:

www.meddean.luc.edu/lumen/medded/grossAnatomy/dissector/mm/brac.htm

By the eay, dumbass, I already said I'll circle it if you make a concise, point by point explanation for why exactly Ronnie's distended gut did not represent a symmetrical liability that would most likely make him lose to Dorian at an unbiased contest. Come on, retard. You don't have the capacity do explain it, do you?

  Owned

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

1994 the caption says it all

no, this 1994 caption does:

 

[Hulkster]

How tall are you?

5'9 or 10 I think.

tall enough to be Mr. O

[suckmymuscle]

Check out his front relaxed pose and you will understand.

  Tha't's one third of the symmetry round. He has better taper than Ronnie when his lats come into play. He turns to the sides, and he defeats Ronnie in symmetry because his stomach is flat and he has incredible serratus separations. If we're talking about the 2003 Ronnie, he might defeat Dorian in thickness form the sides, but not taper. Dorian turns to the back, and he has at least equivalent taper - Ronnie 1999 might have had a small advantage here, but no 2003 Ronnie.

  In conclusion, Dorian might have worst taper in the relaxed front pose, but that's in sixth of the total symmetry evaluated - one third of the relaxed round, which represents half of the criteria. Dorian actually has better taper than 2003 Ronnie almost everywhere else.

SUCKMYMUSCLE