Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

You know what I think? That you are a troll. Seriously. You switched sides at least ten times during this thread,

I agree with sucky's assessment of pubic.

he orgasmed over 99 coleman, then switched for the hell of it.

even he knew 99 Ronnie would beat 93 yates.

[Hulkster]

2004 I mean seriously

1994 I mean seriously:

 

[Hulkster]

was the best show ive been to out of 4 pro shows. hulkster, how many have you been to?

none - the only pro show I could really get to without great travel expense is the toronto pro.

and they keep cancelling it.

[Hulkster]

ronnie and dorian and most would agree that if paul ever got his shit together - his back and learned how to pose - he would be extremely difficult to beat.

HERE IS A QUOTE FROM PAUL DILLET ABOUT DORIAN from FLEX magazine


"The condition of Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia was the most incredible thing I've ever witnessed on any stage.  He was out of this world.  I dont see any way he can duplicate that condition again.  He can come in bigger, but I dont see how he can come in better.  I doubt that even Dorian knew how that happened.  Never in my life had I see anything like that.  I was on my knees going, yes, master, I've seen the light.  I was just happy I was nowhere near him on that stage.


another quote for hulkster, pumpster, etc. to ignore. 

no we don't ignore them

we just don't feel that all these (erroneous) quotes are revelant when the corroberating pics are absent.

95 not looking nearly as "good" as the quotes make it sound:

[pobrecito]

no. dont get me wrong, ronnie is great when he is on but when talking yats 95 condition and size, its over.

What part of this is Hulkster not able to comprehend?

[pobrecito]

95 not looking nearly as "good" as the quotes make it sound:

You fear posting good pictures of Yates, and for good reason too. They foil your entire argument. a 1995 Yates is unbeatable, by anyone.

[Hulkster]

the point is this:

the dorian side has relyed on quotes more than anything else to get their point accross.

they do this because the visual evidence overwhelmingly does NOT support all these glowing quotes and perfect scores.

the coleman side does not rely on quotes, and its not because they are not there.

believe me - there has been just as much praise for Ronnie written over the years as there has been for Yates.

do you want me to quote dexter's comments following the 2003 Olympia? Or comments following the 2001 Arnold Classic? I don't have the 99 mags anymore, but I can tell you this: Ronnie was praised that year up and down for having an amazing combo of aesthetics and mass. Yes, according to Muscle and Fitness at the time, they used the word aesthetics to describe ronnie 99.

but this is bodybuilding, not philosophy.

The coleman side does not need quotes and opinions to prove how good ronnie's physique was when he was ON.

the visuals, given that this is a purely visual sport, speak for themselves:

[pobrecito]

More 95 pictures.

[Hulkster]

You fear posting good pictures of Yates, and for good reason too. They foil your entire argument. a 1995 Yates is unbeatable, by anyone.

pretty dubious statement considering that many people to this day feel that Nasser always looked better than Yates from the front :

[pobrecito]

pretty dubious statement considering that many people to this day feel that Nasser always looked better than Yates from the front :

You are full of shit and I am sick of hearing your garbage. And if you claim otherwise, explain this to me then:

Why is it that every empirical source I have seen (pictures, quotes, experience from people at the show) states the exact opposite of what you say?

[Hulkster]

pubic's last post is exactly what is so wrong about the majority of the dorian side argument.

they use quotes to make yates appear superhuman.

then they post close up solitary shots of yates, which of course look great.

Now, compare Pubics pics to my pics I just posted -

notice: Yates looks far better standing alone than standing next to his competition.

this is the whole dorian side strategy:

avoid showing dorian standing next to others at all costs...

[pobrecito]

Dorian looks excellent in all those shitty shots you posted.


As well, carefully read this Hulkster:

nasser took up more space but was nowhere near as hard so a 256 pound yates looked just as big as a soft 270 nasser. you gotta remember, yates had "it" so yes he made them all look like kids. yates calves were the size of shawns quads.

i dont know how yates got even more dry for the 96 cuz at the 95 he was carved from granite and polished.

from the second the walked onstage and hit the "relaxed" pose it was a comp for second place. no one has said differantly. no one. yes shawn should have been 3rd and maybe maybe he could have got 2nd but kev was just too big for him to handle.

[Hulkster]

You are full of shit and I am sick of hearing your garbage. And if you claim otherwise, explain this to me then:

Why is it that every empirical source I have seen (pictures, quotes, experience from people at the show) states the exact opposite of what you say?

because weider publications during the 90's would never bash the champion.

Non weider mags

(eg. musclemag in 94, 96 and 97)

which much more critical of dorian's post tear physique, esp. in 94, 96 and 97.

I can quote musclemag from 94 if you would like and you will see that where the weider publications probably praised the judging that year as being perfect, other reviewers that were not employed by uncle joe were not exactly quick to agree...

[logical?]

That side-tri that you posted Hulkster- what year is that series of photos from?

Yates looks to be about twice Nasser's size in that shot. Unbelievable quality mass.

[Hulkster]

You are full of shit and I am sick of hearing your garbage. And if you claim otherwise, explain this to me then:

Why is it that every empirical source I have seen (pictures, quotes, experience from people at the show) states the exact opposite of what you say?

LOL I am full of shit from claiming that most people think Nasser was better from the front?

 

I can tell you never followed bodybuilding during the nasser-dorian wars did you?

[pobrecito]

That side-tri that you posted Hulkster- what year is that series of photos from?

Yates looks to be about twice Nasser's size in that shot. Unbelievable quality mass.

that's 1995.

Dorian was 255lbs to Nasser's 275.

[logical?]

rofl 275lbs of what? Hot air?

Unbelievable how much bigger Dorian looks than Nasser.

[pobrecito]

rofl 275lbs of what? Hot air?

Unbelievable how much bigger Dorian looks than Nasser.

Nasser did not lie about his weight. In BFTO he got on the scale about a week out and was 287 or so.

Just goes to show Dorian's true superhuman density.

[Hulkster]

That side-tri that you posted Hulkster- what year is that series of photos from?

Yates looks to be about twice Nasser's size in that shot. Unbelievable quality mass.

dorian always owned nasser in the side tri.

but the facts are that Nasser always owned yates in the ab and thigh, side chest, and front double bi.

in other words, someone is not "unbeatable" when the guy who places third  can better them in several mandatory poses.

from getbig.com:

(about the 96 olympia):

Dorian was incredible as always. However, Nasser looked awesome and massive, with his back much better than last year. Many people thought Nasser should of been crowned #1

[logical?]

Nasser did not lie about his weight. In BFTO he got on the scale about a week out and was 287 or so.

Just goes to show Dorian's true superhuman density.

Yeah, I'm not doubting his weight, I'm just saying it's amazing the difference in quality. By looking at pictures, you could swear it was the other way round.

[logical?]

dorian always owned nasser in the side tri.

but the facts are that Nasser always owned yates in the ab and thigh, side chest, and front double bi.

in other words, someone is not "unbeatable" when the guy who places third  can better them in several mandatory poses.

from getbig.com:

(about the 96 olympia):

Dorian was incredible as always. However, Nasser looked awesome and massive, with his back much better than last year. Many people thought Nasser should of been crowned #1

I'd agree about the front double bi, but Dorian's ab-thigh was phenomenal. Nasser's was too, of course, but Dorian had a tighter look- Nasser looked like he was going to overflow and spill out at any moment.

[pobrecito]

dorian always owned nasser in the side tri.

but the facts are that Nasser always owned yates in the ab and thigh, side chest, and front double bi.

in other words, someone is not "unbeatable" when the guy who places third  can better them in several mandatory poses.

from getbig.com:

(about the 96 olympia):

Dorian was incredible as always. However, Nasser looked awesome and massive, with his back much better than last year. Many people thought Nasser should of been crowned #1

And how exactly are you determining that Nasser was Better than Yates?

Delta9mda says the show was over the second Dorian walked out....and then we have you....sitting behind your computer in canada telling us nasser should have won. Zero credibility.

[pobrecito]

I'd agree about the front double bi, but Dorian's ab-thigh was phenomenal. Nasser's was too, of course, but Dorian had a tighter look- Nasser looked like he was going to overflow and spill out at any moment.

Dorian had the best ab/thigh of any man over 250lbs. Period.

[pobrecito]

Awesome 95 front lat spread

[Hulkster]

And how exactly are you determining that Nasser was Better than Yates?

Delta9mda says the show was over the second Dorian walked out....and then we have you....sitting behind your computer in canada telling us nasser should have won. Zero credibility.

again, you obviously weren't around during the 90's following the nasser dorian wars were you?

ps that quote is from this site. Ron is just quoting popular opinion at the time.

the point is this: whether or not you think that dorian was better than nasser or vice versa, dorian was not as unbeatable as claimed.

there was lots of doubt during his feud with nasser.