These pics here and I mean these pics ends the discussion why Coleman has the better back. If you can't see it, then you never will. Coleman matches Yates in thickness, condition, seperation and beats him in both poses hands down.
I love Coleman fans , most of them are very ignorant it can't be coincidence lol what you did is you set a whats called a " straw man " and then you attempt to knock it down and claim a ' victory ' the back double biceps shot is 1) not Dorian's best by any stretch of the imagination and 2) not complete so how you can claim Ronnie beats him in both poses when the entire pose isn't even shown is premature
lets break the back double biceps shot down , in NO way shape or form does Ronnie compare with Dorian in terms of trap thickness & density or separation , Dorian's traps are clearly more defined especially near the top of the neck and at the bottom of the traps are more clearly separated from the lats , they are equal in terms of separation & detail of the teres major and minor as well as the infraspinatus , again the lower lats is where Dorian walks past Ronnie , his lower lats are thicker and you can see the christmas tree in Dorian's back as you can't on Ronnies and the pic of Ronnie you can see more of his lower back than the pic of Yates and this again is another area Dorian is clearly better than Ronnie ! and Dorian is clearly the drier of the two , Ronnie looks like he;s holding water hence why is separations aren't as good as Dorian's , Dorian's back is destroying Ronnies in this comparison
Now lets see what the Official I.F.B.B. Mens Professional judging criteria asks for in the back double biceps pose
The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.
Back Double Biceps (see Figure 4)
Standing with his back to the judges, the competitor will
bend the arms and wrists as in the Front Double Biceps
pose, and will place one foot back, resting on the toes.
He will then contract the arm muscles as well as the
muscles of the shoulders, upper and lower back, thigh
and calf muscles.
The judge will first survey the arm muscles and then do
the head-to-foot survey, during which there are more
muscle groups to look at than in all of the other poses.
This includes the neck, deltoids, biceps, triceps, forearm,
trapezius, teres, infraspinatus, erector spinae, external
obliques, latissimus dorsi, gluteus, thigh biceps, and
calves. This pose, probably more than the others, will
help the judge to determine the quality of the
competitor’s muscle density, definition, and overall
balance.The judges start off looking for muscular bulk , both Ronnie & Dorian are roughly the same weight in that comparison so muscular bulk looks to be a push , balanced development favors Yates , Ronnie never had great muscular balance , muscular density again Yates look at the density of his traps & lowerlats and definition/conditioning , Dorian wrote the book on conditioning
The judges start with the neck thats a push , deltoids neither have an and overwhelming edge in terms of size , shape and detail push , biceps Ronnie has a clear advantage in biceps its NO contest , triceps Ronnie's are bigger but Dorian's aren't lacking in terms of shape , size or separation , forearms Dorian has better forearms , better shape and balance with his biceps/triceps , trapezius NO CONTEST Yates clearly has better traps I don't need to further elaborate on this ! teres , infraspinatus are EQAUL in terms of detail & development this is a push , erector spinae another clear cut advantage for Dorian , Dorian's christmas tree was always better than Ronnies , Dorian's erector spinae shows thickness & density that Ronnie doesn't , extrernal obliques another advantage for Yates remember the judges are always looking for who has the edge in terms of muscular density in all parts and Yates has denser obliques than Ronnie , latissimus dorsi , both are equal in terms of thickness in their lats as well as sweep however Dorian's lats insert lower into his waist and Dorian can't be matched for thickness and development of the lower lats another clear advantage for Yates , gluteus Ronnie's glutes have more striations yet they're way overdeveloped and compromise his balance & proportion , Dorian's has striations on his glutes but we'll give this one to Ronnie , thigh biceps , I love how Coleman fans go on and on about Ronnie's hams , Dorian is NO slouch in this area his are just as detailed and developed as Ronnies this is a push , and calves lol I mean need I say anything? Ronnie in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM compares favorably with Dorian in the calves , not in terms of diamond shape , separation of the gastrocnemius inner and outer heads or separation of the soleus factor in Ronnie total lack of balance & proportion of his lower legs and you have another clear advantage for Yates ! pay attention to this sentence
This pose, probably more than the others, will
help the judge to determine the quality of the
competitor’s muscle density, definition, and overall
balance.Dorian has the edge in density , definition and overall balance , this is the criteria the I.F.B.B. judges use , this is the standard which competitors are judged upon and according to this criteria Dorian clearly has a batter back double biceps pose DESPITE NOT having better biceps , contests aren't judged on what the Coleman fans think should be favored , there are specifics and they favor Dorian , according to the IFBB judging criteria Ronnie can't beat Dorian in this pose .
