ou're much dumber than I thought you were , seriously . your dead wrong on this topic and many others
" Dorian Yates is the most overrated bodybuilder of all time "
This is true.
" Dorian Yates should have lost the 1993 Mr Olympia to Flex Wheeler "
I revised my opinion. But he should have lost to shawn in 94
" Dorian's conditioning is a myth "
well, ronnie.'s was better in almost all bodyparts except for abs and lower back.
" Ronnie's calves are more detailed than Dorian's "
in 99, they might be. they were just smaller and had crappy shape.
" Ronnie has better balance & proportion than Dorian "
he does. you are the ONLY one besides Pubic who thinks Dorian "twigs on a redwoood" Yates had great balance.
" Ronnie was just as hard & dry in 1999 as he was in 1998 "
proven time after time after time. And Peter has nothing to back his claims up.
" Ronnie was alteast 10-12 pounds heavier in 1999 than 1998 "
I have seen ronnie's 98 weight quoted as 247 before..
" Lee Labrada had crappy abdominals and calves "
they weren't exactly world class...
" The 1994 Mr Olympia was just as controversial as the 1980 Mr Olympia "
very true.
" Ronnie dominated Jay Cutler from the back in 2001 despite losing the whole pre-judging "
you are the only idiot in history to think that Jay's back in 2001 was anywhere neaer the level of Ronnie's...
" Shawn Ray owns Dorian Yates in the back double biceps shot "
true in 94.
" Nasser was close to beating Dorian "
spoken like a true newbie Roll Eyes In 97 he was close
" Dorian only beat guys who weighed less than him "
nasser almost beat him, Dillet had no back. otherwise very true.
" Dorian has NO quality "
depends on the year..94 wasn't exactly anything to write home about.
" Ronnie is aesthetic "
in 98/99 most people agree with me.
" Dorian has crappy quads "
very true to all but you and pubic.
No you're a LOT dumber than I ever thought lol
1) Not even worth a dignified answer , its one of your more retarded & biased statements
2) You ' revised ' your opinion , more like you came to your fucking senses , and Shawn was lucky to get second nevermind first
3) This is avoiding your original statement , you claimed that Dorian's conditioning was a myth and then you later amended to Ronnie has better conditioning and further added ' in most parts ' you're dead wrong on all three points , Dorian's dryness is legendary , Ronnie may have come close or equaled it in 1998 and thats the ONLY time , Ronnie was
never as big AND as dry as Dorian
4) Another retarded statement , Ronnie has bar none the worse calves of ANY Mr Olympia winner and Dorian has among the best of all the Olympia winners , its another completely retarded statement , better detail
5) Dorian's balance at his best mind you is almost perfect , his arms at his best are huge and in proportion with the rest of his physique , Ronnie has always had poor balance evident even at his best at times its much worse but his balance is NOT comparable to Dorian's
6) This issue is dead and you're the last idiot on the Titanic still saying everything is alright , its been proven BY ME using pics , videos and two seperate quotes from two years , I used two separate back pictures scanned by me at the exact same DPI to ensure continuity and pointed out exactly where he is not as dry or hard , you're in total denial
7) the lowest I've seen Ronnie's weight listed for the 1998 Mr Olympia is 249 pounds and the highest is 250 pounds , either way you're dead wrong when you said he was " 10 to 12 pounds heavier " in 99 vs 1998 , that would put Ronnie at 262 pounds which is wrong , but like McGough's other claims they must be wrong and Hulkster the witless wonder's are correct , when the facts contradict Hulkster's claims the facts must be tossed out
World class? lol his midsection in comparison to Ronnie's is world class as well as his calves ! another extremely ignorant claim that you were proven dead wrong on
9) There was NO controversy with the winner of the 1994 m the second place winner said he got the place he deserved , it was a very tight contest between second & third , the crowd Booed very loudly at Shawn being placed second over Kevin , the scorecards indicate the contest wasn't even close in reality or on paper , Flex magazine Feb 2006 " 15 biggest controversies and shocking moments in bodybuilding history " listed the 1980 and 2001 as the most controversial Mr Olympia contests , yet NO 1994 Mr Olympia , they must be wrong and Hulkster must be right
Lets see 1994 Dorian wins the prejudging with perfect scores and wins one posing round with a perfect score and wins the other without a perfect score to claim his third Mr Olympia title , 2001 Mr Olympia Ronnie Coleman loses the entire pre-judging to Jay Cutler and wins both posing rounds and the contest , NO previous Mr Olympia winner ever lost the entire pre-judging and came back to win the contest by just 4 points , the crowd Booed as Ronnie was awarded the Sandow
another point you're dead wrong on
10) Again how does one DOMINATE from the back when you lose the entire pre-judging ? its a retarded statement you can't dominate BY LOSING , its not a matter if Jay's back was anywhere near Ronnie's in 2001 its a matter of overall conditioning and who won the back poses in the mandatory rounds , Ronnie lost the whole prejudging he in no way shape or form DOMINATED Jay Cutler from the back , you can't dominate by losing its a moronic statement
11) Another blanket statement , Shawn Ray owns Dorian in the back double biceps shot
maybe under the Hulkster criteria he owns Dorian in that shot but not in reality or the criteria they use in the I.F.B.B. , one of the requirements is muscular bulk , Dorian outweighed Shawn by 55 pounds of muscle , Shawn doesn't have calves anywhere near Dorian or back width , thickness & density , Shawn is comparable in terms of muscularity & detail in his back and you can see Shawn's biceps better but this is another really , really dumb fucking statements
12) Nasser was NEVER ever close to beating Dorian m NOT even at his worse I could see if the score sheets were close but you have nothing to work with on this , Nasser did look better in the front double biceps shot than Yates in 1997 and he is comparable in the ab-thigh , two poses he lost by the way in 1997 and he gets left for dead from the side and the back , Dorian was never in danger as a Mr Olympia that was Ronnie
13) You claimed Dorian only beat guys smaller than him , don't backpeddle now and say , well Nasser almost beat him and Dillet had no back , thats NOT the claim , you claimed Dorian ONLY beat smaller guys which is nonsense , Fux , Ferrigno , Harrison , Francios , Dillet , Nasser , Demayo were ALL heavier than Yates , you have nothing to work with as usual
14) Another blanket statement and another retarded statement , he had no quality
don't back peddle now you revised it to ' well in 1994 he was nothing to write home about " another laughable claim , one doesn't win the Mr Olympia without quality its a prerequisite
15) I don't care who agrees with you , most people are like you ignorant about bodybuilding . you can find all the people you want who agree with you it doesn't mean its true , Ronnie was never aesthetic even though he tried to poses to slow music and do aesthetic shots lol Flex magazine's top 20 aesthetic bodybuilders Ronnie was missing from the list , I wonder why? is Ronnie more aesthetic than Yates , absolutely , will he be mistaken for Bob Paris , Lee Labrada or Chris Cormier ? lol not by a long shot
16) Dorian's quads are crappy , at the beginning of this thread you made this claim and Royalty put you in your place real quick , he seen both Ronnie & Dorian live and in person he called you an
internet-bodybuilding-fan he said there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with Dorian's quads , and the only realy problem with his quads were with separation of the rectus femoris , they didn't lack size , shape , detail ( except upper separation ) or balance , and his legs are much more balanced as a whole than Ronnie by far
The fact that you still cling to some of these quotes shows how biased and ignorant you really are , and the lenghts you go to , to try and back them up is laughable , like the 98/99 conditioning claim , you posted pictures you toyed with to try and prove a point over someone who was live & in person , someone with over 30 years in the bodybuilding game and someone who is the editor of a major muscle magazine and then have the balls to say they're wrong and you're right lol its lunacy !
You have
melted down with these statements and you have been
owned by a lot of very knowledgeable people on this thread , this is no longer a ' debate ' its random people correcting you and all your bullshit claims , but keep on posting and I'll keep on correcting.
