Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[pobrecito]

agreed.

and this also disproves the whole "dorian easily beat flex but ronnie barely did" argument too.

As I said, Ronnie 99, as shown in shots like that, would have dominated 93 flex just as easily as dorian did.

and that is only ONE pose.

 

Agreed, however Flex sucked in 99 compared to 93. He was an oilbag in comparison and puffier than a foot with gout

[Iceman1981]

I have the 99 video, and it looks nothing like the one on Google. Someone definitely messed with, deliberately or not, the contrast and brightness levels, becuase the video on Youtube Ronnie looks softer than a pancake.

"Someone definitely messed with, deliberately or not"

Please prove it. If you can't, keep quiet about the video and pics. It's just that simple.

[IceCold]

Where's dorian in the side chest? Either dorian is not there or I can't see his "lack" of side chest.

do i need to post the quote from RONNIE FUCKING COLEMAN HIMSELF SAYING THAT DORIAN HAS THE BEST SIDE CHEST OF ALL TIME.

just look at fux.  he is practically a black man based on how much the lighting is changed.  

[pobrecito]

"Someone definitely messed with, deliberately or not"

Please prove it. If you can't, keep quiet about the video and pics. It's just that simple.

Easy. Look at the video on YouTube or the official 99 Olympia video, which I have, it looks nothing like the one on Google. Do you really think the background was black and grainy

[Hulkster]

Agreed, however Flex sucked in 99 compared to 93. He was an oilbag in comparison and puffier than a foot with gout

very true.

BUT ronnie's physique would have been just too large and detailed and shapely for flex even in his 93 shape.

I mean look at this shot:

it reminds me of Franco's pecs -

[IceCold]

"Someone definitely messed with, deliberately or not"

Please prove it. If you can't, keep quiet about the video and pics. It's just that simple.

i already have.

i post what i posted like 5 pages ago.


more examples of reality

here is the real clip that every other souce matches

SCIENCE FICTION CLIP:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2847826446600716095&q=Ronnie+Coleman


any moron can see the difference and which is the true repsentation and is proven by matching every other source.  

[Iceman1981]

when dorian competed and you read what the other guys said, they never thought they could actually beat dorian.

the said the judging criteria needed to change.

those same guys, with the same judging criteria and same judges, actually thought they could beat ronnie.
dillet, kevin, flex, shawn, etc.

(if have to post the quotes that will be ignored by hulkster, etc. when reality sets in, then so be it).  

also, the conditioning of flex, shawn, dillet, nasser, etc. were at an all time high when they competed against dorian.  they knew they had to be at their best if they stood a chance for 2nd place.

once, he retired, they got much worse.  they were no longer motivated to beat some mo they dominated countless times, if he was mr. olympia or not.  

yes, they got older, but ronnie got better as he got older.  

also, they thought they didnt even have to work as hard to beat ronnie, but with dorian they knew they had to work harder then ever.

Please, give me a break. If you are champion or not. It doesn't matter who you are up against. You must work hard or even harder to win or keep winning. So stop it with the excuses that they were not motivated enough.

[IceCold]

Please, give me a break. If you are champion or not. It doesn't matter who you are up against. You must work hard or even harder to win or keep winning. So stop it with the excuses that they were not motivated enough.

not excuses.

just reality.

look at the facts.

look at the pictures. 

[Iceman1981]

do i need to post the quote from RONNIE FUCKING COLEMAN HIMSELF SAYING THAT DORIAN HAS THE BEST SIDE CHEST OF ALL TIME.

just look at fux.  he is practically a black man based on how much the lighting is changed.  

Post it. Ronnie has surpassed his side chest big time anyway.

[Iceman1981]

not excuses.

just reality.

look at the facts.

look at the pictures. 

I am looking at the pictures and the pictures are facts that Coleman is clearly better than everyone. Who told them to stop training as hard? If you want something bad enough, you will train harder than ever.

[Hulkster]

ya know, its funny. I have had the 99 vhs tape for a long time, and I have always known, (and stated many times) that Ronnie in his 99 shape would be far too shapely and detailed (with small waist to boot) than dorian could handle.

and I have always said that once the 99 stuff came out, even the dorian fans would realize that even the shadow himself was not that good.

so, lots of time passes and then the 99 material comes out.

and what happens?

all the dorian fans can do is bitch about how the screencaps and videos are fake/doctored/altered/not real etc etc.

how pathetic

just admit that dorian was not as good like everyone else on the board:

[Iceman1981]

i already have.

i post what i posted like 5 pages ago.


more examples of reality

here is the real clip that every other souce matches

SCIENCE FICTION CLIP:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2847826446600716095&q=Ronnie+Coleman


any moron can see the difference and which is the true repsentation and is proven by matching every other source.  

there are 2 different video sources for the 95' Olympia, now which one are you going with?

[IceCold]

I am looking at the pictures and the pictures are facts that Coleman kills him in the side chest. But all you have is a quote that was said, when? A few years ago? Coleman has surpassed his week side chest since 1998.

acutally, buddy, ronnie made the quote in 2003.

here you go.

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.


its from July 2003 issue of FLEX.

here is the whole thing.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_5_21/ai_103376709

keep trying iceman, maybe you'll come up with some that i cant actually prove you wrong with.  

[suckmymuscle]

  Hulkster is a broken man. Dorian's side chest was superior to that of the 1999 Coleman for several reasons. The first and foremost is that Dorian's pecs were just plain thicker than Ronnie's from the sides, and it showed. Secondly, the delts are visible in this pose and Dorian's three heads are more symmetrically developed. Thirdly, the lateral triceps head is emphasized in this pose - although not as much as in the side triceps mandatory -, and Dorian's is longer, thicker and more striated. Fourthly, Dorian's vastus lateralis is comparable to Coleman's and Yates' calves are an edge. Sixthly, this pose showcases serratus, and Dorian's are more separated. From a muscularity&symmetry standpoint, Dorian takes the mandatory soundly. You can prefer Ronnie's shape all you want, but the bottom line is that won't cut it. Remember that this mandatory emphasizes thickess, something that Dorian excelled at. Here is a pic showing Dorian's fantastic pectoralis thickness and another one of him doing the side chest mandatory.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[IceCold]

ya know, its funny. I have had the 99 vhs tape for a long time, and I have always known, (and stated many times) that Ronnie in his 99 shape would be far too shapely and detailed (with small waist to boot) than dorian could handle.

and I have always said that once the 99 stuff came out, even the dorian fans would realize that even the shadow himself was not that good.

so, lots of time passes and then the 99 material comes out.

and what happens?

all the dorian fans can do is bitch about how the screencaps and videos are fake/doctored/altered/not real etc etc.

how pathetic

just admit that dorian was not as good like everyone else on the board:

hulkster,

thanks for posting a pic from 96.  

typical you find the worst pic of dorian to compare to fake pics of ronnie.

what's really funny is, before you, no one even mentioned the 99 version of ronnie.

it came and went like any other olympia year.

it wasnt even a really big deal that year.  

yeah, coleman won and looked great.

NEXT.

unlike dorian, there werent too many comments from other bbers about coleman.

with dorian, there were a shitload of comments on how dominant he was (and i will post again if need be).

even flex, despite looking worse in 98, he turns his back to the crowd showing his sign of disapproval of the decision.

in 93, he bows to yates and calls him untouchable, despite flex wheeler's career best shape.  

other than your constant bitching and being proven wrong by facts - like quotes, scores, etc. - anything concrete and no based soley on unqualified opinions (yes, you are not qualified) this topic never even came up.  

[Iceman1981]

acutally, buddy, ronnie made the quote in 2003.

here you go.

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.


its from July 2003 issue of FLEX.

here is the whole thing.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_5_21/ai_103376709

keep trying iceman, maybe you'll come up with some that i cant actually prove you wrong with.  

Like I said you only have a quote to go with. look with your own eyes for yourself and you would see yates doesn't have a chance in the side chest. lol, you're a real joke. Plus Coleman has surpassed yates side chest  easily. Remember that quote is from 2003, it is now 4 years later and 3 more Mr. Olympia titles later.

[IceCold]

there are 2 different video sources for the 95' Olympia, now which one are you going with?

you have proven my point regarding the fake pics.

i'm going to choose the pics that match every other source - the vhs, dvd, youtube, pictures, etc.

it just so happens that the 'good' pics of dorian are that vs. the lighter background you posted.

that's the problem with coleman and the 'adjusted' pics.

nothing else matches it.

majority wins.  

[IceCold]

Like I said you only have a quote to go with. look with your own eyes for yourself and you would see yates doesn't have a chance in the side chest. lol, you're a real joke.

hmmm.

i posted a quote from ronnie coleman.

now, you are saying your eyes and hulkster's eyes are a better judge of criteria for a bodybuilding contest than an IFBB pro, let alone an 8 time mr. olympia?

who's the real joke.

you continually avoid information from qualified sources.

what do you possess that makes you qualified to judge anything?

[Iceman1981]

 Hulkster is a broken man. Dorian's side chest was superior to that of the 1999 Coleman for several reasons. The first and foremost is that Dorian's pecs were just plain thicker than Ronnie's from the sides, and it showed. Secondly, the delts are visible in this pose and Dorian's three heads are more symmetrically developed. Thirdly, the lateral triceps head is emphasized in this pose - although not as much as in the side triceps mandatory -, and Dorian's is longer, thicker and more striated. Fourthly, Dorian's vastus lateralis is comparable to Coleman's and Yates' calves are an edge. Sixthly, this pose showcases serratus, and Dorian's are more separated. From a muscularity&symmetry standpoint, Dorian takes the mandatory soundly. You can prefer Ronnie's shape all you want, but the bottom line is that won't cut it. Remember that this mandatory emphasizes thickess, something that Dorian excelled at. Here is a pic showing Dorian's fantastic pectoralis thickness and another one of him doing the side chest mandatory.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I here you're talking about side chest. The first pic isn't even a side chest pose, the second is not even a contest pic. Post a contest pic so we can all have a big laugh.

[Iceman1981]

you have proven my point regarding the fake pics.

i'm going to choose the pics that match every other source - the vhs, dvd, youtube, pictures, etc.

it just so happens that the 'good' pics of dorian are that vs. the lighter background you posted.

that's the problem with coleman and the 'adjusted' pics.

nothing else matches it.

majority wins.  

Nope, sorry, you're not that judge on that. The other source of the yates pic is on youtube also, so please save us your worthless explanation.

[suckmymuscle]

I here you're talking about side chest. The first pic isn't even a side chest pose, the second is not even a contest pic. Post a contest pic so we can all have a big laugh.

  If you had read what I wrote, you'd know I especifically said the first pic was to show how thick Dorian's pecs were. I didn't say both pics were of him doing the mandatory. As for the second pic, I posted it because Dorian doesen't even need to be in contest shape to defeat Ronnie at this madatory: he was that good!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Iceman1981]

[ Q ] As we all know, Ronnie Coleman is getting ready to defend his title for the ninth time this year. Who do you think will eventually take over from him as the best bodybuilder in the world?
 
Well, Jay Cutler is the obvious next Mr. Olympia at this point, because he has been close to Ronnie once or twice, although I don't think it was as close as some people think. I think Ronnie was the winner every time. You also have Dexter who is quite good, although maybe not big enough. There is no real obvious winner there I think, so if Ronnie steps down it will mix things up.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson199.htm

[Iceman1981]

 If you had read what I wrote, you'd know I especifically said the first pic was to show how thick Dorian's pecs were. I didn't say both pics were of him doing the mandatory. As for the second pic, I posted it because Dorian doesen't even need to be in contest shape to defeat Ronnie at this madatory: he was that good!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

lol, he never looked like that on stage. Now please post a side chest pose of yates in a competition. then we will see how it looked when it counted.

[suckmymuscle]

This is not impressive from the front imo:



He has the muscle, but that pose is ruined due to his wide waist imo!  Some on here have said a gut is an automatic failure - in my opinion a wide waist is, although when Dorian hit front poses he looked incredible.

As for Jay, his back is wide as hell to compare him to Dorian in that manner is not totally unreasonable.  We would have to see them side by side, but width wise I think it goes to Jay.

  So what? Everyone knows that Dorian was defeated soundly in the front relaxed round because his taper was bad. The problem is that he had breat taper from the sides adn from the back. In the mandatories, he had great taper in: the front lat spread, abs-and-thigh, front double biceps, rear lat spread, back double biceps, side chest and side triceps. In fact, his taper was better than that of the 1999 Coleman in all mandatories. So you're bitching about Dorian's taper from one angle in one position. Big deal!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NeoSeminole]

I here you're talking about side chest. The first pic isn't even a side chest pose, the second is not even a contest pic. Post a contest pic so we can all have a big laugh.

welcome to the wonderful world of Suckmyasshole's bullshit.