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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20525 on: January 12, 2007, 06:45:20 PM »
Here is a pic of Ronnie with his gut totally relaxed and if you though 03 was bad lol I just can't believe my eyes seriously

  NarcissisticDeity, just stop arguing with NeoSperm. Dude is a retard. Arguing with him is like trying to teach a daltonic child how to do oil paintings. :-X

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20526 on: January 12, 2007, 06:46:40 PM »
NarcissisticDeity, just stop arguing with NeoSperm. Dude is a retard. Arguing with him is like trying to teach a daltonic child how to do oil paintings.

awww, you're just mad b/c nobody will play with your toys. Go home little boy! ND was even talking to me.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20527 on: January 12, 2007, 06:48:26 PM »
awww, you're just mad b/c nobody will play with your toys. Go home little boy! ND was even talking to me.

  Aw, you're just spiteful because I took the time to own your ass, which left you speacheless and confused. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20528 on: January 12, 2007, 06:50:56 PM »
Aw, you're just spiteful because I took the time to own your ass, which left you speacheless and confused.

not quite. Your posts are often so moronic that I don't feel like lowering myself to your level. Also, everything that you said has already been addressed. Thus, I saw no need to repeat myself. I find it amusing that you think you owned anyone, let alone me, when you are the only person here that been owned by both sides of the debate. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20529 on: January 12, 2007, 06:59:27 PM »
Other than Dexter Jackson, few in the competition that year were as shredded as Ronnie, even though he was far off from his personal best.

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/olympia2004updates.html

very true. When Ronnie carries water, the first place it goes is his back and midsection. You cannot look at a pic of his back when its soft and say the rest of him must have been unconditioned. The rest of him still looked pretty shredded and dry.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20530 on: January 12, 2007, 07:02:31 PM »
Other than Dexter Jackson, few in the competition that year were as shredded as Ronnie, even though he was far off from his personal best.

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/olympia2004updates.html

LMFAO thanks for the link Matt

Shawn Ray agreeing with what I've been saying all along lol

Ronnie’s side chest leaves a lot to be desired when compared to people who can actually hit it right like Dexter and Jay. His side triceps shot is not one of the best in the business and he got exposed because of it

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20531 on: January 12, 2007, 07:10:40 PM »
LMMFAO now Ronnie has better density as well? Oh jesus meltdown I put the balance & proportion issue to bed , and the density issue isn't worth addressing lol

see that is your problem. you are too stubborn to open your eyes.

you don't exhibit more density in bodybuilding competition terms than someone if you have smooth arms and quads, and less detail over almost the entire body save for abs and lower back.

smooth, doughy muscle does not appear dense.

and in bodybuilding this is what it is all about:

dorian may have been more dense than kevin or lee labrada, but certainly NOT peak Ronnie Coleman

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20532 on: January 12, 2007, 07:15:56 PM »
not quite. Your posts are often so moronic that I don't feel like lowering myself to your level. Also, everything that you said has already been addressed. Thus, I saw no need to repeat myself. I find it amusing that you think you owned anyone, let alone me, when you are the only person here that been owned by both sides of the debate. ;)

  Dude, you got owned brutally by me. No shit. My last reply to you, as an example, was a tour de force in logic that just destroyed you. Saying that you didn't reply because "it was so stupid that I would be lowering myself" is the oldest excuse in the book. Please... ::). Whatever you say, dude. You da man. And I got owned by both sides? Why? Because someone had the stupidity to say that Ronnie had a better taper than Flex Fucking Wheeler when the latter was at his best? ::) So keep ignoring my posts, because I know damn well that you're reading them and realizing that you're in over your head when it comes to arguing with me.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20533 on: January 12, 2007, 07:16:21 PM »
see that is your problem. you are too stubborn to open your eyes.

you don't exhibit more density in bodybuilding competition terms than someone if you have smooth arms and quads, and less detail over almost the entire body save for abs and lower back.

smooth, doughy muscle does not appear dense.

and in bodybuilding this is what it is all about:

dorian may have been more dense than kevin or lee labrada, but certainly NOT peak Ronnie Coleman



Hulkster you didn't know what the criteria was , you didn't know what balance & proportion was , you didn't know what real conditioning was , and you don't know what muscle density is , you are hands down the most ignorant person I've come across on ANY bodybuilding board ever ! others are most likely ignorant as you but they don't commit themselves to ludacris statements , there is NOTHING wrong with being ignorant none of us start out knowing everything but please before you make an even bigger fool of yourself stop typing I beg you lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20534 on: January 12, 2007, 07:17:45 PM »
  Dude, you got owned brutally by me. No shit. My last reply to you, as an example, was a tour de force in logic that just destroyed you. Saying that you didn't reply because "it was so stupid that I would be lowering myself" is the oldest excuse in the book. Please... ::). Whatever you say, dude. You da man. And I got owned by both sides? Why? Because someone had the stupidity to say that Ronnie had a better taper than Flex Fucking Wheeler when the latter was at his best? ::) So keep ignoring my posts, because I know damn well that you're reading them and realizing that you're in over your head when it comes to arguing with me.

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Ha Ha Ha Ha owned

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20535 on: January 12, 2007, 07:19:20 PM »
Ha Ha Ha Ha owned

   He knows it...;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20536 on: January 12, 2007, 07:25:00 PM »
P.S: My last 2 posts hurt you, huh?

ha ha ha, what you don't realize is that I'm having fun with you. I know how you like to type this marathon posts and you scream for attention. For example, posting in all bold letters or talking to ND and Pubes b/c no one from Camp Coleman responds to you anymore. It must eat you up inside, and I'm loving every sec. of it. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20537 on: January 12, 2007, 07:31:57 PM »
ha ha ha, what you don't realize is that I'm having fun with you. I know how you like to type this marathon posts and you scream for attention. For example, posting in all bold letters or talking to ND and Pubes b/c no one from Camp Coleman responds to you anymore. It must eat you up inside, and I'm loving every sec. of it. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20538 on: January 12, 2007, 07:33:42 PM »
ha ha ha, what you don't realize is that I'm having fun with you. I know how you like to type this marathon posts and you scream for attention. For example, posting in all bold letters or talking to ND and Pubes b/c no one from Camp Coleman responds to you anymore. It must eat you up inside, and I'm loving every sec. of it. ;)

  Yes, I really made the Coleman fans shut up, huh? ;) As for you having addressed my posts, here's my short answer: no, you didn't. Why? Here's the short reply:

  Your reply was nonsensical and incorrect. Like I've said before, it is impossible to reply to the points I raised in my previous posts, because it is merely an issue of physics.

  But whatever, dude. Go ahead and keep believing your delusions. Let's change the laws of physics so that a 257 lbs of flesh and bones can occupy more space than another 257 lbs of flesh and bones. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20539 on: January 12, 2007, 07:34:36 PM »
Hulkster you didn't know what the criteria was , you didn't know what balance & proportion was , you didn't know what real conditioning was , and you don't know what muscle density is , you are hands down the most ignorant person I've come across on ANY bodybuilding board ever ! others are most likely ignorant as you but they don't commit themselves to ludacris statements , there is NOTHING wrong with being ignorant none of us start out knowing everything but please before you make an even bigger fool of yourself stop typing I beg you lol

ND, you don't have to have seen the criteria off the web to know what it is.

All you have to do is follow bodybuilding and read and use your brain. What the judges look for is very obvious. You go on about "thats your personal preference not the criteria" whenever someone who does not post regularly on this thread puts you in your place with regard to the ronnie/dorian "debate', when in reality what you are saying is "personal preference" is outlined quite clearly in the criteria that you so often post.. You just don't know how to interpret it very well.

hell, you tried to deny that striations or thickness is even looked at! ::)

you act like because you stumbled upon the IFBB's critera on the web that you are some expert, when in reality most of this board thinks you are a delusional fool.

I mean, your arguments concerning dorian's arms, taper, balance and proprotion alone are ridiculous!

you go on and on typing the words "balance, density and proprotion" as if they mean something when Ronnie just crushes dorian in so many poses and so many bodyparts.

and all you can do is babble on like nothing is happening when you hero is getting crushed because  he was simply not up to the combo of size, SHAPE and detail that was peak Ronnie Coleman:


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20540 on: January 12, 2007, 08:08:51 PM »
ND, you don't have to have seen the criteria off the web to know what it is.

All you have to do is follow bodybuilding and read and use your brain. What the judges look for is very obvious. You go on about "thats your personal preference not the criteria" whenever someone who does not post regularly on this thread puts you in your place with regard to the ronnie/dorian "debate', when in reality what you are saying is "personal preference" is outlined quite clearly in the criteria that you so often post.. You just don't know how to interpret it very well.

hell, you tried to deny that striations or thickness is even looked at! ::)

you act like because you stumbled upon the IFBB's critera on the web that you are some expert, when in reality most of this board thinks you are a delusional fool.

I mean, your arguments concerning dorian's arms, taper, balance and proprotion alone are ridiculous!

you go on and on typing the words "balance, density and proprotion" as if they mean something when Ronnie just crushes dorian in so many poses and so many bodyparts.

and all you can do is babble on like nothing is happening when you hero is getting crushed because  he was simply not up to the combo of size, SHAPE and detail that was peak Ronnie Coleman:




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ND, you don't have to have seen the criteria off the web to know what it is.

All you have to do is follow bodybuilding and read and use your brain. What the judges look for is very obvious. You go on about "thats your personal preference not the criteria" whenever someone who does not post regularly on this thread puts you in your place with regard to the ronnie/dorian "debate', when in reality what you are saying is "personal preference" is outlined quite clearly in the criteria that you so often post.. You just don't know how to interpret it very well.

LMFAO NO one on this thread or out of this thread has put me in my place you , pumpster and Neo have all tried in vain for 800+ pages and all have failed its your warped logic whenever anyone agrees with your ignorant logic then you get excited and think wow another person agrees with me I must be right its faulty logic , everytime one of you or your ignorant buddies post they all describe Ronnie's strengths and gloss over his glaring weaknesses and don't even know what they're looking for like you

Dorian has the edge in conditioning this is a proven fact yet you still think Ronnie is drier lol

Dorian has the clear edge in balance & proportion this I've proven and again you have the balls to claim Ronnie does lol

Dorian has the edge in bulk depending on the year , you've idiots have been reduced to saying a lighter Ronnie is actually bigger LMFAO

Dorian is denser , now you feel you're slipping again and you have the balls to post Ronnie has better density its lunacy nothing more

You used to cling on for dear life such nonsense as " x-frame " and " lumpiness " and " Dorian's back looks flat " and " taper " all of those have failed and now its a leap into the abyss now Dorian has NO advantages what so ever , not bulk , not density , not balance , not conditioning LMFAO you've finally melted down into a rambling idiot who thinks Dorian's only advantages are calves and lower back

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hell, you tried to deny that striations or thickness is even looked at! ::)

you act like because you stumbled upon the IFBB's critera on the web that you are some expert, when in reality most of this board thinks you are a delusional fool.

I never once denied thickness was looked at thats an outright lie and I said striations don't shift contests one way or another get the story straight

See in your ignorance you forgot that I'm no stranger to competitive bodybuilding I got my first Muscle & Fitness magazine with the coverage of Mr Olympia in 1985 and have been intrested in bodybuilding ever since , I've read so many books on the subject I can't recall how many , I've read Arnold Encyclopedia 5 times cover-to-cover when I first got it back in 1986  ;) and I've followed the major contests every year since and before I ever read the whole criteria I was saying Dorian's strengths are what the judges were looking for and low and behold the criteria confirmed it among other sources , my comprehension and understanding of the criteria shames yours , my knowledge crushes yours by far I may not know everything but its abundantly clear I know a LOT more than you guys by far !

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I mean, your arguments concerning dorian's arms, taper, balance and proprotion alone are ridiculous!

you go on and on typing the words "balance, density and proprotion" as if they mean something when Ronnie just crushes dorian in so many poses and so many bodyparts.

and all you can do is babble on like nothing is happening when you hero is getting crushed because  he was simply not up to the combo of size, SHAPE and detail that was peak Ronnie Coleman:

I proved my case about Dorian's arms having better balance & proportion and better forearms and triceps that case is closed ! taper  ::) strawman Dorian destroys Ronnie in balance & proportion this issue has been put to bed

Dorian never got crushed by anyone ever , even at 239 pounds vs a best ever Lee Haney he didn't get crushed he still managed to beat Haney in the muscularity round and Ronnie is supposed to crush Yates , maybe according to the Hulkster-criteria , you know where the rules don't apply where ignorance and ' show muscles ' win contests but to according to the IFBB Mens Professional Bodybuilding Criteria

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.


This debate has been dead for a LONG TIME it was dead the moment you declared " Dorian Yates is the most overrated bodybuilder of all time " thats when this debate ended because it gave an insight into your ignorance , stupidity and bias , you can't debate honestly , objectively and fairly , you've already lost with that statement and the only reason I'm still posting is to correct your nonsense , and to continue just how far you've fell into the pit of absurdity , and now you ran off the edge with your latest statements you've gone off the real deep end lol Dorian isn't as balanced , dense , conditioned , or big as Ronnie in fact Dorian only has better calves and lower back Oh NO wait Ronnie 1999 has more detail in his calves than Dorian , so that leaves Dorian with a better lower back lol

the more you type the more you own yourself and I mearly point it out.  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20541 on: January 12, 2007, 08:25:09 PM »
I don't fear a challenege and Dorian's biceps were NEVER his strongest point its moot point , wow Ronnie had better biceps lol no-fucking-kidding hey in case you didn't hear the stock market crashed in 1929 lol

You post a pic where he's not even done with the movement and claim " look he has no biceps ' your banter is just as nonsensical as theirs it seems Ronnie Coleman attracts the simple people who like big arms and quads lol and small waists and veins , much more to bodybuilding than what you think wins

It's moot point , but yet you bytch about coleman calves. Make up your mind. It's in his blood and guts DVD. try to get a better shot if you can. here is the answer: you can't because that's all that's left of his bicep.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20542 on: January 12, 2007, 08:26:17 PM »
Post tear , contest shots of Dorian and Ronnie , what do you have for me now bitch? lol

yates arm still looks like shyt. thanks for owning yates you dick.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20543 on: January 12, 2007, 08:27:11 PM »
Nonsense.  Ronnie is better than Dorian!

Couldn't say it better myself.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20544 on: January 12, 2007, 08:29:32 PM »
Does anyone think Dorian beats Ronnie in this pose?





I dont, but the yates fan club does.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20545 on: January 12, 2007, 08:29:49 PM »
yates arm still looks like shyt. thanks for owning yates you dick.

Ha Ha just like I expected typical Coleman fan caught in a trap and has nothing to offer  ;) at first you had excuses now you don't have those , your silence speaks volumes.  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20546 on: January 12, 2007, 08:31:11 PM »
I dont, but the yates fan club does.

Not that particular year but Coleman fans need to use such comparisons it makes them feel better lol and after the day-to-day beating they take they need to feel better .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20547 on: January 12, 2007, 08:33:04 PM »
Iceman Justin Timberlake and cry me a river  :'(  ;)

two contest shots and Yates crushes Ronnie in lower leg balance and notice Coleman's glutes from the front

Better calves for yates but not better quads. You are really losing it. Again you use a shadow dark pic to show yates seperation and cuts but you use a washed out pic for Coleman. Yeah, great comparison. You're only making yourself look like an idiot posting these absurd comparison shots.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20548 on: January 12, 2007, 08:34:20 PM »
Ronnie looks amazing here:



Sure does, but the yates nutsuckers may not.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20549 on: January 12, 2007, 08:34:58 PM »
Better calves for yates but not better quads. You are really losing it. Again you use a shadow dark pic to show yates seperation and cuts but you use a washed out pic for Coleman. Yeah, great comparison. You're only making yourself look like an idiot posting these absurd comparison shots.

hahahah......quit your bitching, you all have been using doctored screencaps for over 300 pages now.

The fact of the matter is, in the real pictures of the 99 Olympia Ronnie looks soft and has no more back separation than Cormier or Flex LOL.