ND, you don't have to have seen the criteria off the web to know what it is.
All you have to do is follow bodybuilding and read and use your brain. What the judges look for is very obvious. You go on about "thats your personal preference not the criteria" whenever someone who does not post regularly on this thread puts you in your place with regard to the ronnie/dorian "debate', when in reality what you are saying is "personal preference" is outlined quite clearly in the criteria that you so often post.. You just don't know how to interpret it very well.
hell, you tried to deny that striations or thickness is even looked at! 
you act like because you stumbled upon the IFBB's critera on the web that you are some expert, when in reality most of this board thinks you are a delusional fool.
I mean, your arguments concerning dorian's arms, taper, balance and proprotion alone are ridiculous!
you go on and on typing the words "balance, density and proprotion" as if they mean something when Ronnie just crushes dorian in so many poses and so many bodyparts.
and all you can do is babble on like nothing is happening when you hero is getting crushed because he was simply not up to the combo of size, SHAPE and detail that was peak Ronnie Coleman:
ND, you don't have to have seen the criteria off the web to know what it is.
All you have to do is follow bodybuilding and read and use your brain. What the judges look for is very obvious. You go on about "thats your personal preference not the criteria" whenever someone who does not post regularly on this thread puts you in your place with regard to the ronnie/dorian "debate', when in reality what you are saying is "personal preference" is outlined quite clearly in the criteria that you so often post.. You just don't know how to interpret it very well.
LMFAO NO one on this thread or out of this thread has put me in my place you , pumpster and Neo have all tried in vain for 800+ pages and all have failed its your warped logic whenever anyone agrees with your ignorant logic then you get excited and think wow another person agrees with me I must be right its faulty logic , everytime one of you or your ignorant buddies post they all describe Ronnie's strengths and gloss over his glaring weaknesses and don't even know what they're looking for like you
Dorian has the edge in conditioning this is a proven fact yet you still think Ronnie is drier lol
Dorian has the clear edge in balance & proportion this I've proven and again you have the balls to claim Ronnie does lol
Dorian has the edge in bulk depending on the year , you've idiots have been reduced to saying a lighter Ronnie is actually bigger LMFAO
Dorian is denser , now you feel you're slipping again and you have the balls to post Ronnie has better density its lunacy nothing more
You used to cling on for dear life such nonsense as " x-frame " and " lumpiness " and " Dorian's back looks flat " and " taper " all of those have failed and now its a leap into the abyss now Dorian has NO advantages what so ever , not bulk , not density , not balance , not conditioning LMFAO you've finally
melted down into a rambling idiot who thinks Dorian's only advantages are calves and lower back
hell, you tried to deny that striations or thickness is even looked at! 
you act like because you stumbled upon the IFBB's critera on the web that you are some expert, when in reality most of this board thinks you are a delusional fool.
I never once denied thickness was looked at thats an outright lie and I said striations don't shift contests one way or another get the story straight
See in your ignorance you forgot that I'm no stranger to competitive bodybuilding I got my first Muscle & Fitness magazine with the coverage of Mr Olympia in 1985 and have been intrested in bodybuilding ever since , I've read so many books on the subject I can't recall how many , I've read Arnold Encyclopedia 5 times cover-to-cover when I first got it back in 1986

and I've followed the major contests every year since and before I ever read the whole criteria I was saying Dorian's strengths are what the judges were looking for and low and behold the criteria confirmed it among other sources , my comprehension and understanding of the criteria shames yours , my knowledge crushes yours by far I may not know everything but its abundantly clear I know a LOT more than you guys by far !
I mean, your arguments concerning dorian's arms, taper, balance and proprotion alone are ridiculous!
you go on and on typing the words "balance, density and proprotion" as if they mean something when Ronnie just crushes dorian in so many poses and so many bodyparts.
and all you can do is babble on like nothing is happening when you hero is getting crushed because he was simply not up to the combo of size, SHAPE and detail that was peak Ronnie Coleman:
I proved my case about Dorian's arms having better balance & proportion and better forearms and triceps that case is closed ! taper

strawman Dorian destroys Ronnie in balance & proportion this issue has been put to bed
Dorian
never got crushed by anyone ever , even at 239 pounds vs a best ever Lee Haney he didn't get crushed he still managed to beat Haney in the muscularity round and Ronnie is supposed to crush Yates , maybe according to the Hulkster-criteria , you know where the rules don't apply where ignorance and ' show muscles ' win contests but to according to the IFBB Mens Professional Bodybuilding Criteria
The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.
This debate has been dead for a LONG TIME it was dead the moment you declared " Dorian Yates is the most overrated bodybuilder of all time " thats when this debate ended because it gave an insight into your ignorance , stupidity and bias , you can't debate honestly , objectively and fairly , you've already lost with that statement and the only reason I'm still posting is to correct your nonsense , and to continue just how far you've fell into the pit of absurdity , and now you ran off the edge with your latest statements you've gone off the real deep end lol Dorian isn't as balanced , dense , conditioned , or big as Ronnie in fact Dorian only has better calves and lower back Oh NO wait Ronnie 1999 has more detail in his calves than Dorian , so that leaves Dorian with a better lower back lol
the more you type the more you
own yourself and I mearly point it out.
