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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22050 on: January 26, 2007, 02:59:00 PM »
Hey Hulkster, I thought you said this thread convinced EVERYONE that Ronnie was better.
There are now several people who have chimed in saying this thread convinced them otherwise.
Hmmmm?  ???

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22051 on: January 26, 2007, 02:59:50 PM »
I think this thread has finally convinced me that Dorian is better; Ronnie's gut is just unbelievably huge (even in 98). It doesn't matter how good the rest of him looks; you just can't ignore that gut.

thats only because you don't realize how massive dorian's gut was even in 93:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22052 on: January 26, 2007, 03:01:19 PM »
Hey Hulkster, I thought you said this thread convinced EVERYONE that Ronnie was better.
There are now several people who have chimed in saying this thread convinced them otherwise.
Hmmmm?  ???

there are a few stragglers who will be brought up to speed with quick education.

dorian's gut was massive in 93 just as Ronnie's was in 99.

you can't just fault ronnie on the gut and act like dorian was all peachy.

he was not.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22053 on: January 26, 2007, 03:01:44 PM »
bump

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22054 on: January 26, 2007, 03:06:03 PM »
there are a few stragglers who will be brought up to speed with quick education.

dorian's gut was massive in 93 just as Ronnie's was in 99.

you can't just fault ronnie on the gut and act like dorian was all peachy.

he was not.

Wait,... The thread convinced people you're wrong.
Sooo.. More of the same from you is only going to convice them further.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22055 on: January 26, 2007, 03:13:50 PM »
Wait,... The thread convinced people you're wrong.
Sooo.. More of the same from you is only going to convice them further.


but those people were basing their decision solely on the basis that ronnie had a big gut.  It is even stated "I don't care what the rest of him looks like"

problem is, those people also did not realize how bad dorian's gut was in 93 too.

like I said: a quick education will change their minds...

both had monster guts at their bests

one had fantastic detail and shape:
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22056 on: January 26, 2007, 03:14:51 PM »
and just look at how much better balanced and proportioned Ronnie is...

dorian's twigs on a barrel ruin everything...
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22057 on: January 26, 2007, 03:24:30 PM »
and just look at how much better balanced and proportioned Ronnie is...

dorian's twigs on a barrel ruin everything...
Meh. Again you opinion. Obviously this thread convinced several people that Dorian was better than Ronnie.
They already saw that pic; the one you continuously post over and over. They still decided Dorian was better.
Sorry to burst your bubble.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22058 on: January 26, 2007, 03:27:36 PM »
Do you damned fools realize you've been passionately debating this virtually meaningless shit for 898 pages?! What the hell is the matter with all of you?!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22059 on: January 26, 2007, 03:29:47 PM »
I don't understand how people can penalize Ronnie for having a gut, but ignore Dorian's distended abdomen. ???




















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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22060 on: January 26, 2007, 03:29:54 PM »
dorian is missing an arm thus losing symmetry from the jump. his quads are smooth as shit with no seperation. his calves are wider then his quads in that pic, another major imbalance. the two most important muscles in bodybuilding would have to be back(definitly) and perhaps quads or arms. dorian has no quads and piss poor arms for a mr o.


HE IS MISSING A BICEP THUS HE IS UNBALANCED TO THE MAX. FIGURE IT OUT.

stop using every excuss in the book, bad lighting, photographer said it was a bad pic, you posted the pic, stop whining he looks like shit. so are you saying that that most muscular trumps this one, honestly, tell me why. dorian is missing a bicep for one, so your balance argument is retarded. his arms are not in proportion with his torso nor his calves with his quads. ronnie wins this pose soundly, by better condtion for one, with better detail, dryness, size , shape, balance,proportion and symmtry.

I like when you type because its easy to assess your knowledge and its not much

1) Dorian is NOT missing an arm , he has one bicep shorter than the other and not by much and this does NOT effect ' symmetry ' in the bodybuilding context its apparent you don't know what they mean by symmetry

2) Dorian's quads are NOT smooth as shit , this implies there is subcutaneous water or fat in the muscles and Dorian is as dry as a bodybuilder can be , the ONLY problem with Dorian's quad separation is his rectus femoris , his vastus lateralis is separated as well as the vastus medialis as is the satorius

3) I laughed out loud when I read that his calves are wider than his quads , you're and idiot its that simple and why? because the picture was taken down looking up its the angle of the shot you dolt ! his calves are wider than his quads give me a fucking-break and talk about irony a Coleman fan commenting on lower-leg imbalance that just boogles the mind , you're actually criticizing Dorian's calves , when Ronnie has NONE

4) the two most important muscles in bodybuilding are the back and perhaps arms & quads ? according to whom ? you? Dorian's back is better than Ronnie's period end of sentence , Ronnie knows this , you need to lean it , Dorian has no quads? Hulkster-type nonsense blanket statement , and he has no arms? NO arms? another blanket statement , Ronnie may have much better biceps and bigger triceps however to say Dorian has ' no arms ' again screams " hey look how little I know " Dorian's arms as a whole have much better balance & proportion , Dorian's biceps are okay ,  his triceps smoke Ronnie's in terms of shape and separation and his forearms are better shaped and match the rest of his arms , learn this

5) He's missing a bicep so he's unbalance to the max? he's NOT missing a bicep , one is shorter than the other this doesn't effect balance it would effect right/left exactness otherwise known as symmetry but NOT symmetry used in the bodybuilding context which means balance & proportion , learn what poor balance is

Ronnie calves to small ( and overdeveloped ) for his quads which are oversized thus throwing off his lower-leg balance , factor in grossly overdeveloped glutes that stick out way to far and can be seen from the front , this is NOT great muscle balance & proportion

Ronnie' s bicep & triceps are NOT in proportion with his forearms which lag behind , now factor in his delts being overpowered ( in the back double biceps ) by his biceps/triceps this is NOT great proportion

Look no further than the side chest pose his overdeveloped front & side delts obscure his pecs hurting this shot , this is NOT great balance & proportion


6) you want to know why Dorian beats Ronnie in the most muscular ? better muscular balance , better muscular density , and by far and above better conditioning , especially compared to 2003 you actually had the balls to type this

ronnie wins this pose soundly, by better condtion for one, with better detail, dryness, size , shape, balance,proportion and symmtry.

This is retard posting on a Hulkster-scale by far ! one you typed the same shit over and over and it all means the same , conditioning is dryness and in no way shape of form does Ronnie 2003 compare favorably in terms of extreme muscle dryness and muscle hardness , better detail? not quite not in 03 , and size yes but he's holding water and this would be clearly evident standing next to Dorian , dry Ronnie 2003 out I mean really dry him out in 2003 and he would NOT be 287 pounds so he has more size yes but his it more conditioned size? NO shape? in some parts YES and in some parts NO , balance & proportion are SYMMETRY you're trying to repeat the same thing over and over like its a new entity and its NOT symmetry in the bodybuilding context is muscle balance and muscle proportion and the ironic part is 2003 Ronnie's balance and proportion is at his absolute ALL-TIME worse and the irony is you thing he's balanced

You're knowledge ( like Hulksters , pumpsters , Neoseminoles ) is very limited , you've exposed yourself as ignorant to how professional bodybuilding contests are judged and the criteria they use and there is NOTHING wrong with be ignorant but it goes wrong for you ( and them ) when you type matter-of-factly then it gives me prime opportunities to correct you and thats exactly why this thread is so long , because I keep correcting all you're mistakes  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22061 on: January 26, 2007, 03:30:58 PM »
Do you damned fools realize you've been passionately debating this virtually meaningless shit for 898 pages?! What the hell is the matter with all of you?!

At first I just came for the good unseen pics of Ronnie and Dorian.
And just like with Crack, it keeps you coming back, too see the same point reitterated for 900 pages.  :-\

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22062 on: January 26, 2007, 03:33:29 PM »
ha ha ha ha, go back to playing in your little sandbox, kid. I've already showed that my comparison is scaled properly and I challenged you numerous times to make a better one using the same pics. You have repeatedly ignored my requests, which tells me that you know it's pretty accurate. You have nothing to work with so you make up bullshit claims and try to discredit my comparisons.

Yawn I've explained exactly why its wrong who cares if the heads are close to being scaled that means NOTHING , I know you like to think Ronnie would dwarf Dorian but thats not reality because Ferrigno and Dillett couldn't neither would Ronnie , get a clue and save yourself the embarasment of posting that God-aweful ' comparison '

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22063 on: January 26, 2007, 03:35:50 PM »

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22064 on: January 26, 2007, 03:36:38 PM »
Ronnie's gut is the worse of ANY Mr Olympia winner ever , bar none  !

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22065 on: January 26, 2007, 03:37:50 PM »
This is a joke

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22066 on: January 26, 2007, 03:38:42 PM »
Ronnie looks like Kuato is coming...


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22067 on: January 26, 2007, 03:39:18 PM »
Unreal

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22068 on: January 26, 2007, 03:39:54 PM »
I don't understand how people can penalize Ronnie for having a gut, but ignore Dorian's distended abdomen. ???

So, yeah. I just watched the prejudging, and I challenge you to match those pics up to the vid. He has no gut in that vid - The one shot in the lat spread is at the PRECISE instant he breathes in deeply after hes done hitting a pose.
Friggen pathetic.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9092147985835496662&q=olympia+1993&hl=en

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22069 on: January 26, 2007, 03:41:31 PM »
Ronnie looks like Kuato is coming...



LMFAO he does

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22070 on: January 26, 2007, 03:43:02 PM »
So, yeah. I just watched the prejudging, and I challenge you to match those pics up to the vid. He has no gut in that vid - The one shot in the lat spread is at the PRECISE instant he breathes in deeply after hes done hitting a pose.
Friggen pathetic.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9092147985835496662&q=olympia+1993&hl=en


Thats what they have to work with lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22071 on: January 26, 2007, 03:43:31 PM »
Yawn I've explained exactly why its wrong who cares if the heads are close to being scaled that means NOTHING , I know you like to think Ronnie would dwarf Dorian but thats not reality because Ferrigno and Dillett couldn't neither would Ronnie , get a clue and save yourself the embarasment of posting that God-aweful ' comparison '

yawn, where do you come up with this shit? lololol








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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22072 on: January 26, 2007, 03:46:34 PM »
Worse gut

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22073 on: January 26, 2007, 03:48:28 PM »
yawn, where do you come up with this shit? lololol



From and I.F.B.B. judge who was there and who knows a hell of a LOT more than you and me  ;)

I.F.B.B. judge Roger Schwab

Man-mountain Dorian Yates was certainly the top gun in the 1993 Mr Olympia shootout. He was much bigger , better and harder than ever , and while his is never the prettiest physique on stage , he's assuredly the most God-awful muscular superman this sport has yet seen. Though Yates was lighter than Lou Ferrigno or Paul Dillett , he appeared to be the biggest man on stage-by far- and the hardest , dominating from beginning to end and every step in between.


You have what again?  ;) yeah I thought so

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #22074 on: January 26, 2007, 03:50:33 PM »
I can avalanche you more 25 times more Ronnie gut pics than you can Yates , ever wonder why?