Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Iceman1981]

I know I posted a different pic I did that to show the difference between fully flex and transition and when you isolate a part of the pic and make it bigger the quality suffers so nice try

Who's talking about quality? You said that Hulkster is messing with the pic. I then stated that Hulkster's pic is different than yours. You then agree that they are 2 different pics, then you say that crap you just posted? lol. I think you're really losing it ND. In one post you're talking about something, then the next post it's the opposite. What gives? Now I see why the rest of the guys on here are saying you really need to learn to read. You should take them up on that idea.

[Hulkster]

You said that Hulkster is messing with the pic

thats become pretty much the tag line of the dorian side..

since its obvious that dorian was not as good as 99  Ronnie, all they can do to circumvent this fact is to say that all the evidence is doctored/faked/messed with..


 

the debate is over.

when your opinions have to cry 'fake' because your evidence is so overwhelming, you know you have won.

[Hulkster]

Ronnie wasn't that great from the front.

tell us Pubic, is that why you posted this?:

I give Yates the side tricep and ab/thigh. Coleman wins everything else.

on Nov. 6th after the 99/93 stuff was posted?

 

Now you can clearly see why you are a troll.

You can't in one breath praise the hell out of 99 ronnie and then in the next say that Chris and Flex owned him.

you can't have it both ways - unless of course you are a troll...

[Hulkster]

and yet more evidence for the troll-like nature of pubic:

he posts this concerning the 99 screencaps (which he used to praise coleman and state that ronnie would win):

those are actually some of the best quality screencaps I have ever seen

and then turns around only to say (agreeing with icecold) that they are 'fake' later on when its obvious that dorian would lose!

[pobrecito]

Again, Hulkster being owned by omission.

Whether or not I am a troll has nothing to do with my post. As an opponent, it is your duty to refute everything I say. If Coleman truly is as superior as you say, then your task should be easy

[pobrecito]

Ronnie wasn't that great from the front.

He was owned by Flex and Cormier in the front double biceps in 98 and 99. His side triceps let a lot to be desired. His ab/thigh is among the worst of any Olympian.

Also, your analogy of Haney and Coleman is severely flawed.

Yates defeated Haney as a rookie in muscularity, despite weighing 11lbs less. Dorian's condition was far superior to Haney's. The only reason Haney beat Yates was becuase of superior posing.

Do you really think Coleman is a better poser than Yates?

You say bodybuilding is not mathematical, well, to an extent this is true. However, it's confirms that Yates was more muscular and therefore would win the muscularity round

Come on hulkster, respond to this....or will you continue to be a little bitch and call me a troll?

[Necrosis]

  But Horton has seen both Dorian and Ronnie at 285 lbs live, and he thinks Dorian looks harder and more separated overral at that weight. Sure, he's a photographer, but we're not talking about photographs here but what he saw live.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

thats good and all but is an opinion, there are quotes on both sides, did you read the issue of md with ronnie on the cover doing a side chest? about 20 industry people said he was the greatest ever, most ripped with the most muscle. however, the point you guys keep missing is that they are opinions, the only way to actually see who would win is a real contest. however, that will not occur and did not. so logic would hold that the next life like medium would be optimal, hence, the pictures. if theres quotes from both sides how do you decipher them. flex said on here that ronnie would win, lee said otherwise, who to beleive.

i beleive neither really, its there opinion granted better then mine but still conflicting. pictures are the best way to compare the two physiques at there best. quotes do nothing, since there are quotes on both sides. also, if you were interviewed for a segment in a mag about dorians legacy or ronnies would you say something negative or something positive. use your head the quotes are buttered up, most of these guys are buddies etc..

i would think you would agree that pictures are the best route in this argument.

[pobrecito]

the only way to actually see who would win is a real contest. however, that will not occur and did not.

Actually, they did. And Ronnie's lost every single time.

Hope that helps

[Necrosis]

at there respective bests, no it did not.


ronnie has more wins, more olympias thus hes better

hope this helps.

[pobrecito]

It's not hard to win when this is your main competition

[NarcissisticDeity]

at there respective bests, no it did not.


ronnie has more wins, more olympias thus hes better

hope this helps.

Typical Coleman fan equates quantity with quality , you brag about Ronnie have more wins well she should be competed more three times more than Dorian , now factor in out of all the times they both competed what was their win/loss ration

Dorian 88%
Ronnie 40%

lol massive difference , now add in that Dorian never placed below 2nd in a pro show ever in his life , and Dorian faced much stiffer competition and Ronnie only started to beat the guys Dorian dominated after they reached their primes and even then he still had a hard time , factor in Dorian never lost while a Mr Olympia , Ronnie did twice and not to mention the challenge round to Gustavo , so you put Ronnie's wins in prospective they're very impressive but he never dominated like Dorian did over his career and he does have the lost wins but over who? guys who never stood a chance against Dorian , Ronnie included .

[Bear]

exactly, notice the huge difference black and white makes.

[Bear]

Oh you could be included in with the morons the Yates black & whites are not real according to you lol and someone tried to point out that the black & whites make him look better than he actually is? , thats not a valid argument thats a pathetic attempt first of all what are you basing this on? did you see Yates in that series in both color and black & white to have anything to gauge off of? most likely NOT and I've heard of pictures washing separation out but not adding to it , this claim is worthless as well

We already covered this. Why do you moan about that the '99 screencaps being darker than the originals if increased contrast only washes separations? And you've never heard of b/w pics adding to the appearance of separation? lol.

Peter McGough said it, Matarazzo said it. Ronnie is the best of all time. Personally I don't think quotes should matter because they are just as subjective as the voices of everyone posting on here, but if you must quote Peter McGough then surely you must equally observe his later amendment that Ronnie superceded Yates.

[Necrosis]

We already covered this. Why do you moan about that the '99 screencaps being darker than the originals if increased contrast only washes separations? And you've never heard of b/w pics adding to the appearance of separation? lol.

Peter McGough said it, Matarazzo said it. Ronnie is the best of all time. Personally I don't think quotes should matter because they are just as subjective as the voices of everyone posting on here, but if you must quote Peter McGough then surely you must equally observe his later amendment that Ronnie superceded Yates.

no, he picks and chooses which quotes to use. he says that quotes back up what he says, so ill do the same "ronnie is the best" mcgough. see pick below for proof.

[IceCold]

thats become pretty much the tag line of the dorian side..

since its obvious that dorian was not as good as 99  Ronnie, all they can do to circumvent this fact is to say that all the evidence is doctored/faked/messed with..


 

the debate is over.

when your opinions have to cry 'fake' because your evidence is so overwhelming, you know you have won.

the pics were fake - they matched no other sources

those pics are like a story.

6 people all see the samething.

5 agree and 1 person says something differnent - no one believes him.

by the way, who ever said, with the fake pics, that a 99 ronnie would beat dorian anyways.

i never said it, doubt ND, or anyone else did.

so it doesnt really matter if they are fake or not. 

[RocketSwitch625]

no. but compared to Ronnie, it is not as good overall (the midsection and lower back are the only two areas where dorian has ronnie edged out. bottom line is he holds more water in most areas than ronnie does at his best.


ronnie from sometime in 2001

Great nipple development. Vickie Gates used to suck on them when they were together while Coleman used to suck her hampton.

[RocketSwitch625]

Q. Do you know the difference between Vickie Gates' fanny (for American readers, you're about 2 inches out) and a cricket ball?

A. I think that if push comes to a shove I could just about eat a cricket ball.

[Hulkster]

I always find it funny that here in north america,

fanny = your ass

but in the U.K.,

fanny is the english equivalent of 'pussy'

hahah

no pussy packs worn here lol

[Hulkster]

It's not hard to win when this is your main competition

what an ironic statement considering that dorian would have flat out LOST in both 1998 and 1999 if he showed up looking like he did in 1997...

even chris would have beaten dorian in his 1997 shape looking like he did in 99.

[IceCold]

what an ironic statement considering that dorian would have flat out LOST in both 1998 and 1999 if he showed up looking like he did in 1997...

even chris would have beaten dorian in his 1997 shape looking like he did in 99.

you truly are delusional and insane.

 

why would cormier beat dorian?


its not like dorian showed up out of shape - like ronnie did in 00,01,02, and 06. 

[pobrecito]

Once again, Hulkster infatuated with the most-muscular.

He truly is delusional to say that Cormier - 248lbs - would beat a 274lb Dorian.

[IceCold]

regardless of how great ronnie's upper body is, that 4 pack ruins everything. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

We already covered this. Why do you moan about that the '99 screencaps being darker than the originals if increased contrast only washes separations? And you've never heard of b/w pics adding to the appearance of separation? lol.

Peter McGough said it, Matarazzo said it. Ronnie is the best of all time. Personally I don't think quotes should matter because they are just as subjective as the voices of everyone posting on here, but if you must quote Peter McGough then surely you must equally observe his later amendment that Ronnie superceded Yates.

I never moaned about it and I never once said they were fake either and I said there was an obvious difference in color and I was right and lets entertain that I did say they were fake , well according to Camp-Coleman they were indeed after all " fake " and they posted the new ' real ' ones lol so on both fronts you're wrong

Peter McGough did say Ronnie 2001 ASC was his all time best and would in his opinion be unbeatable , do I agree with that? no he has his opinion and I respect it but it doesn't mean I have to agree , the ONLY opinions that matter are the judges , writers , fans and contestants don't judge contests , well they do but their judgements don't count ! 13 independent judges do

And I do post quotes to confirm what I've always maintained , such as Dorian had better balance than Ronnie , better side chest side triceps , better conditioning , etc Hulkster claims Dorian is ' smooth ' in 1993 and I obviously disagree and I can back up my claim with an eye witness account from , competitors , writers and judges all saying Yates is completely ripped , not partially ripped not holding water , completely ripped , the best part is I've always maintained certain opinions and I can usually confirm my point of view , I'm sorry to say my adversaries can't say the same

And McGough said the best physique he seen onstage was Ronnie 2001 and the best offstage was the Dorian black & whites at 269 pounds so thats food for thought 

[Hulkster]

regardless of how great ronnie's upper body is, that 4 pack ruins everything. 

yup. just like regardless of how great dorian's abs are, his doughy arms, quads,  and wide waist ruin everything too...

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, he picks and chooses which quotes to use. he says that quotes back up what he says, so ill do the same "ronnie is the best" mcgough. see pick below for proof.

How fucking dumb are you ? I only pick & choose the quotes I want to use? I posted the Peter McGough quote saying Ronnie 2001 was the best ever , I mean again pay attention to the argument because you will get owned