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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24475 on: February 20, 2007, 07:13:35 AM »
ferrigno looks like utter shit. one of the widest waists ever. dorian is a close second. ;D

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24476 on: February 20, 2007, 07:45:06 AM »
The pose is meant to show off the lats, more so than any other mandatory emphasizes a single bodypart.

Ronnie's lats are tiny compared to Yates.

Yates crushes Ronnie in this pose just like he did every time they met on stage.

Hope that helps.





That still doesn't answer my previous post. You're a complete joke and you know it. Using the IFBB judging criteria, yates loses that pose. In case you didn't know, the front lat spread is not only judged by your lats, they judge your whole body from the front . Same goes for the rear latspread, they judge the whole body from the back. You can have as big lats as you want, but if your arms, chest, delts and quads stink, you simply will not win that pose. "Hope that helps.'

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24477 on: February 20, 2007, 07:47:23 AM »
here is a better front lat spread comparison.



Let me guess, yates wins that pose? lol. Look at his small chest and arms. Smooth as silk. He has good lats, but that's it.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24478 on: February 20, 2007, 07:49:55 AM »
I don't know whats funny you posting this or you posting this thinking Ronnie is beating him in this shot lol either severe self-ownage lol your dumbest post thus far  ;)

Ok guru, using your IFBB judging criteria, yates loses that pose. Analyze it for yourself. Tell us all how yates is winning that pose with smooth arms, chest and legs with barely any seperation at all.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24479 on: February 20, 2007, 08:19:21 AM »
Ok guru, using your IFBB judging criteria, yates loses that pose. Analyze it for yourself. Tell us all how yates is winning that pose with smooth arms, chest and legs with barely any seperation at all.


yates has bigger and better lats.

also, in the above pic, yates legs look bigger.

you keep talking about seperations but the only difference is a bit more seperation in the brachialis on ron's arms.

that's it.

his 4 pack runis any front shot. 

he flexes downward so there are some striations in his chest (which has gyno).
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24480 on: February 20, 2007, 08:38:09 AM »

yates has bigger and better lats.

also, in the above pic, yates legs look bigger.

you keep talking about seperations but the only difference is a bit more seperation in the brachialis on ron's arms.

that's it.

his 4 pack runis any front shot. 

he flexes downward so there are some striations in his chest (which has gyno).

Yates lats are bigger in that pic, but are you looking at the same pic as I am? You say Coleman only has more seperation in the brachialis? That's kind of funny, because I think we must be looking at 2 different pics. This is the pic by the way.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24481 on: February 20, 2007, 09:06:08 AM »
Yates lats are bigger in that pic, but are you looking at the same pic as I am? You say Coleman only has more seperation in the brachialis? That's kind of funny, because I think we must be looking at 2 different pics. This is the pic by the way.

i was talking about the one where coleman is in black and white and yates was in color.

doesnt matter.

even in the pic you posted, with yates in his first olympia offseason, its still better than coleman. 
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24482 on: February 20, 2007, 09:10:06 AM »
i was talking about the one where coleman is in black and white and yates was in color.

doesnt matter.

even in the pic you posted, with yates in his first olympia offseason, its still better than coleman. 

Well that's your opinion. I would like to hear how yates is winning in that comparison, but the yates fans won't explain. All they keep saying is "yates wins that pose". I'm not going to argue. Everyone has their opinion and we all have to value that, even if we don't agree.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24483 on: February 20, 2007, 10:02:32 AM »
Well that's your opinion. I would like to hear how yates is winning in that comparison, but the yates fans won't explain. All they keep saying is "yates wins that pose". I'm not going to argue. Everyone has their opinion and we all have to value that, even if we don't agree.


-dorian has better lats
-does not have a 4 pack
-seems to hit the pose better
-thicker chest with no gyno
-better forearms
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24484 on: February 20, 2007, 11:12:28 AM »
damn boy, do I have to keep correcting you every time you respond to me? I said Ronnie's back was better at the 01 ASC than in 99. This nullifies your 99 Team Flex reference since they had no way of teleporting to the future. In regards to your post, I feel that Ronnie's back at the 01 ASC was just as good as Dorian's. Ronnie had more thickness and better taper while Dorian had slightly more detail. It comes down to personal preference. I'm being generous here since many feel that Ronnie's back was better, including Peter McGough.

Ronnie did NOT have more thickness in 01 thats a dream he was down 13 pounds and you're fond of saying Dorian has most of his weight in his torso  ;) Ronnie's back 01 is among his smallest showings albeit harder more detailed , Dorian is clearly thicker in his lats , traps and lower back this i.e his whole back period

2003 Ronnie Coleman i.e. post 2001 ASC mind you

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.

Samir Bannout 2002 mind you this was after the 2001 ASC


Jay Cutler blows the other bodybuilders away with the crisp detail of his muscularity from top to bottom. He has superior calves, hamstrings and glutes. His back is detailed and big, but it does not match up well against Ronnie, who has the second-best back in the history of bodybuilding behind the great Dorian Yates


Two Mr Olympia confirm what I said , what is blatantly obvious Dorian's back is thicker and better , better than 01 ASC better than 1999 Mr Olympia , better than 1998 Mr Olympia , better than any freakin year , you can't counter this

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24485 on: February 20, 2007, 11:55:05 AM »

-dorian has better lats
-does not have a 4 pack
-seems to hit the pose better
-thicker chest with no gyno
-better forearms

OK, OK, I'll take your word for it.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24486 on: February 20, 2007, 01:09:09 PM »
Ok guru, using your IFBB judging criteria, yates loses that pose. Analyze it for yourself. Tell us all how yates is winning that pose with smooth arms, chest and legs with barely any seperation at all.

First of all thats a crummy scan and how do I know ? I scanned it from Dorian's Book Blood & Guts and the pic in the book isn't exactly great quality to begin with now couple that with Dorian being off season and Ronnie being a few weeks out from a show , big difference ! Ronnie is closer to contest conditioning than Dorian and its a better quality picture so Ronnie may indeed have the edge in conditioning but I mean you picked a very bad pic of Ronnie to post lol you could barely see his lats to begin with lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24487 on: February 20, 2007, 01:23:18 PM »
self ownage? Dorian is lucky to match Ronnie in width in that pic, and his glutes literally look smooth as a baby's ass. Furthermore, Dorian has those ridiculous looking twig arms which completely ruin that pose.

ha ha ha ha, Lou Ferrigno and Paul Dillet did make Dorian look small. ;)





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self ownage? Dorian is lucky to match Ronnie in width in that pic, and his glutes literally look smooth as a baby's ass. Furthermore, Dorian has those ridiculous looking twig arms which completely ruin that pose.

Self ownage is damn right kid and the balls to claim Dorian's glutes are smooth when Ronnie's whole entire back is smooth lol both of his calves are smooth , please refer to Dorian's back for detail and hardness and again Dorian's arms are small compared to Ronnie WOW no kidding just in case you didn't know the stock market crashed in 1929 lol Ronnie water-logged size ruins that pose for him , his complete lack of proportion ruins it as well

And talk about irony the pic you posted of Dillett and Ferrigno is EXACTLY the one I.F.B.B. judge Roger Schwab was referring to when he said .................


I.F.B.B. judge Roger Schwab

Man-mountain Dorian Yates was certainly the top gun in the 1993 Mr Olympia shootout. He was much bigger , better and harder than ever , and while his is never the prettiest physique on stage , he's assuredly the most God-awful muscular superman this sport has yet seen. Though Yates was lighter than Lou Ferrigno or Paul Dillett , he appeared to be the biggest man on stage-by far- and the hardest , dominating from beginning to end and every step in between.

So much for your fantasy of Ronnie making Dorian look small , you post a pic with Dorian furtherest from the  camera and ' proof ' lol what a loser , an IFBB judge crushes your slanted comparison in one fell swope and your dream of Ronnie being Paul Bunyan  ;)


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24488 on: February 20, 2007, 01:25:49 PM »
Ronnie did NOT have more thickness in 01 thats a dream he was down 13 pounds and you're fond of saying Dorian has most of his weight in his torso Ronnie's back 01 is among his smallest showings albeit harder more detailed , Dorian is clearly thicker in his lats , traps and lower back this i.e his whole back period

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Two Mr Olympia confirm what I said , what is blatantly obvious Dorian's back is thicker and better , better than 01 ASC better than 1999 Mr Olympia , better than 1998 Mr Olympia , better than any freakin year , you can't counter this

yes I can. Peter McGough claims that Ronnie has the best back of all-time. He wouldn't say that if Ronnie's back was smaller and less detailed. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24489 on: February 20, 2007, 01:30:29 PM »
yawn



yes I can. Peter McGough claims that Ronnie has the best back of all-time. He wouldn't say that if Ronnie's back was smaller and less detailed. ;)

LMFAO Ronnie and Samir kid , please learn  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24490 on: February 20, 2007, 01:33:55 PM »
LMFAO Ronnie and Samir kid , please learn  ;)

are you a moron or something. quotes dont mean shit. peter said ronnie was the best. you pick and choose which quotes to validate, your a moron.


stop using them as arguments, ifbb judges have said similar things about ronnie. what now?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24491 on: February 20, 2007, 01:37:02 PM »
Self ownage is damn right kid and the balls to claim Dorian's glutes are smooth when Ronnie's whole entire back is smooth lol both of his calves are smooth , please refer to Dorian's back for detail and hardness and again Dorian's arms are small compared to Ronnie WOW no kidding just in case you didn't know the stock market crashed in 1929 lol Ronnie water-logged size ruins that pose for him , his complete lack of proportion ruins it as well

Ronnie's back may look smooth in that pic, but at least it still has definition. Dorian's glutes have 0 visible striations. Moreover, I wasn't comparing Dorian's arms to Ronnie's. Stop acting like a fool and miscomprehending all my posts. I've had to correct you almost every time you responded to me b/c you put words in my mouth. Dorian's arms look pathetically small in this pic for any bodybuilder - NOT just compared to Ronnie.



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And talk about irony the pic you posted of Dillett and Ferrigno is EXACTLY the one I.F.B.B. judge Roger Schwab was referring to when he said .................

I.F.B.B. judge Roger Schwab

"Man-mountain Dorian Yates was certainly the top gun in the 1993 Mr Olympia shootout. He was much bigger , better and harder than ever , and while his is never the prettiest physique on stage , he's assuredly the most God-awful muscular superman this sport has yet seen. Though Yates was lighter than Lou Ferrigno or Paul Dillett , he appeared to be the biggest man on stage-by far- and the hardest , dominating from beginning to end and every step in between."

poor ND, you make this too easy for me. You need to learn the difference when people use literal and figurative language. I suppose 03 Ronnie actually developed muscles that haven't been discovered yet. ::)


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24492 on: February 20, 2007, 01:37:10 PM »
LMFAO Ronnie and Samir kid , please learn  ;)

Sorry but bannout is just a assclown for me with no class, to use quotes from him is like you would quote kamali, pointess ;)

Sure bannout was the deserved winner of the 1983 Mr.O but the man itself is a big disgrace for the sport.

Here a few examples if needed.

Bannout said he will beat haney in 1988 with no problems ( bannout looked like shit ) and that mike christian is not in his league (after he has seen haney backstage he said he has seen god and he almost cried )
 
A few years later in 1990 at the english grand prix he could not deal with his more than fair 6th place and almost knocked out the promoter.

This clown is in no way a expert for me, he could not even see that he was not in the same league as haney so please if you use a quote next time make sure that the guy is not in samir's league.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24493 on: February 20, 2007, 01:37:42 PM »
are you a moron or something. quotes dont mean shit. peter said ronnie was the best. you pick and choose which quotes to validate, your a moron.


stop using them as arguments, ifbb judges have said similar things about ronnie. what now?

Moron Ronnie said Dorian had the thickest and freakiest back he ever seen , stop crying  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24494 on: February 20, 2007, 01:42:15 PM »
Moron Ronnie said Dorian had the thickest and freakiest back he ever seen , stop crying

Peter McGough said that Ronnie has the greatest back of all-time, and Dorian admitted that Ronnie would probably beat him. Now what, b*tch? ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24495 on: February 20, 2007, 01:50:09 PM »
Ronnie's back may look smooth in that pic, but at least it still has definition. Dorian's glutes have 0 visible striations. Moreover, I wasn't comparing Dorian's arms to Ronnie's. Stop acting like a fool and miscomprehending all my posts. I've had to correct you almost every time you responded to me b/c you put words in my mouth. Dorian's arms look pathetically small in this pic for any bodybuilder - NOT just compared to Ronnie.



poor ND, you make this too easy for me. You need to learn the difference when people use literal and figurative language. I suppose 03 Ronnie actually developed muscles that haven't been discovered yet. ::)


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Ronnie's back may look smooth in that pic, but at least it still has definition. Dorian's glutes have 0 visible striations. Moreover, I wasn't comparing Dorian's arms to Ronnie's. Stop acting like a fool and miscomprehending all my posts. I've had to correct you almost every time you responded to me b/c you put words in my mouth. Dorian's arms look pathetically small in this pic for any bodybuilder - NOT just compared to Ronnie.

No his back doesn't just look smooth in that pic it is damn smooth lol Dorian's glutes in 1997 with striations  ;) see the picture , and again you've been owned with the pic you posted by Dorian and now the excuses are rolling out like clockwork

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poor ND, you make this too easy for me. You need to learn the difference when people use literal and figurative language. I suppose 03 Ronnie actually developed muscles that haven't been discovered yet. ::)

No this isn't figurative its literal as it gets

I.F.B.B. judge Roger Schwab

Man-mountain Dorian Yates was certainly the top gun in the 1993 Mr Olympia shootout. He was much bigger , better and harder than ever , and while his is never the prettiest physique on stage , he's assuredly the most God-awful muscular superman this sport has yet seen. Though Yates was lighter than Lou Ferrigno or Paul Dillett , he appeared to be the biggest man on stage-by far- and the hardest , dominating from beginning to end and every step in between.

Yates didn't just appear to be a tad bigger than anyone on-stage he appeared to be so " BY FAR " thats as literal as it gets kid and by an IFBB judge no less , it just doesn't get better than this  ;)

And do Dorian's ams look small from this angle?


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24496 on: February 20, 2007, 01:50:59 PM »
Ronnie's back may look smooth in that pic, but at least it still has definition. Dorian's glutes have 0 visible striations.

That is due to the fact that Dorian's is not tensing his glutes yet in that shot. His glutes were striated in 97. Also, I could post a screencap of Ronnie backstage at the 99O where he is not tensing his glutes and they look just like Diesel's in that shot. Does that mean he didn't have striated glutes? ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24497 on: February 20, 2007, 01:52:06 PM »
Peter McGough said that Ronnie has the greatest back of all-time, and Dorian admitted that Ronnie would probably beat him. Now what, b*tch? ;)

I'll tell you now what lol you're frustration level is showing thats now what  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24498 on: February 20, 2007, 01:54:50 PM »
Peter McGough said that Ronnie has the greatest back of all-time, and Dorian admitted that Ronnie would probably beat him. Now what, b*tch? ;)


dorian was just being humble.

isnt that your excuse whenever ronnie praises yates?

owned again, buddy. 

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24499 on: February 20, 2007, 01:55:35 PM »
After Ronnie's supposed "all-time best"...we get this gem from Flex hahahahahah