i dont think he lost in 01 to be honest. he outmassed jay. and was better from the back.
however ronnie has received some gifts as has dorian. i dont think that should matter. we are comparing both at there bests.
a bodybuilder with an obvious tear should not win a show, it is about ideal and that is not ideal. it throws off symmetry and proportion to a degree along with asthetics.
ronnie should not have won in 06, he came in off with obvious injury.
im as unbiased as possible in this dicussion. dorian wins the ab and thigh and the side tri. you can call back a tie its really preference. but i think 03 ronnie would be far to big for dorian. but dorian had great detail in really only one shot that ive seen. i mean, its the same shot over and over. his flatness is a fault. to get so dry he sacrificed fullness, which doesnt negate ronnies fullness like you would have us beleive. ronnie was close to as detailed but much fuller with a more dramatic taper and a thicker back. no one has had the thickness ronnie has had.
ronnie wins the double bi, most muscular, side chest. i also think the lat spread is close. ill say why if you guys go apeshit.
good post.
but in reality, yates torn bi was an overated injury.
his biceps werent that great before, so it wasnt a huge impact - unlike ronnie who tore his signature bodypart, his lat which is visible in every pose except ab and thigh.
also, yates torn arm was virtually the same size as his other. in reality, the bicep was shorter than the other.
on the other hand, ronnie's left arm was much smaller than his right.
i know that 06 wasn ronnie at his best, but he mainly lost to due his conditioning.
03 ronnie, i think would be the only version to beat yates.
he did have him on size, but yates has him by a great margin of conditioning.
its all up to the judges which way they'd go.