that's your personal opinion. Unless you have a hydrostatic weighing machine and individually measured Dorian and Ronnie at their peaks, you cannot definitively say who was more conditioned. I personally feel that 01 ASC Ronnie's conditioning slightly exceeded Dorian's. Ronnie's back looked tight and hard like Dorian's in addition to having better definition in his delts, pecs, arms, glutes, quads and hamstrings.
No, it's not my opinion, you idiot, but that of several bodybuilding judges and writers who have said that. Again, Dorian Yates became famous for setting the standard for conditioning; Coleman did not. The buzz about Coleman's 2001 ASC form was that it was the best coditioning
for him. Even the poster Nicorulez, who by the way is a Ronnie fan, mentioned that no bodybuilder has been as hard and dry as Dorian at the 1993 and 1995 Olympias and, according to him:"This is not even debatable". So if even a Coleman fan - who by the way is a much better advocate for Coleman than you are - can see that, then I think it's a mute point. Dumbass.
I said you never mentioned grain in any of your responses to me. I don't care if you said it in one of your replies to someone else. I don't read all of your posts in this thread.
Utter bullshit. You read each and every single post I make. The evidence? You bring up quotes I made several months ago. Only someone who reads everything I write very carefully would pay attention to that.
obviously not, dumbass, since the acne wouldn't be enough to compensate for his abundant fat and water. However, compare Ronnie and Dorian when they are both in contest-condition. Now switch Ronnie's smooth, even-tone skin with Dorian's acne-covered, leathery skin. I guarantee you that Ronnie would look "grainier" than Dorian.
Well, dipshit, you equated Dorian's graininess with acne, and I made you look stupid by pointing out that it can only possibly be something else, since acne does not make an out of condition person look grainy. A person with acne-ridden skin does not look grainy, so obviously grain is something else. If you gave Ronnie Dorian's skin, he would still look softer than Dorian, only with more acne. Acne makes a person look more conditioned... ::)I only indulge this crap because it's fun owning you.
if they had the same amount of muscle, then I believe they would demonstrate the same amount of overall definition.
Boy, you got owned so badly on this one that I'm amazed that you have the audacity combined with the stupidity to continue challenging me. Listen, retard, if separations were etirely an indication of conditioning with no genetic factor involved, then everyone should show the exact same amount of separations or a given percentage of bodyfat. The amount of muscle mass is immaterial, because we're talking about bodyat percentages here. Since different human beings show different amount of overral of separations at the same bodyat percentage, then obviously separations are not an absolute indication of bodyfat. What can't you understand something so simple?
If separations and striations were largely genetic, as you say, then how come you don't see defined people with 15% body fat. Instead, they may have visible striations in their delts or good separation in their quads and that's it. This simply means they naturally store less fat and water in certain areas.
I said that separations are partially genetic. Go back through my posts and you'll see that I point out that all human beings show an improvement o muscular separations as they drop bodyfat - exactly the reason why they diet or contests in the first place. However, your example is irrelevant because the improvement in muscular separations is not linear across humans. I you factor analysed this, you'd see that it is impossible to demonstrate that loss of subcutaneous bodyfat and water levels are the only things responsible for the improvements seen in muscular separations across the human spectrum.
ha ha ha ha ha, you're such a pathetic tool. My hesitation to enter the Mr. Getbig has nothing to do with lack of confidence. In that case, I challenge you to enter a marathon or climb a mountain. Competing in an online bodybuilding competition isn't exactly high on my agenda of things to do. Furthermore, I never challenged you to a posedown. I don't know where you got that shit from. I dared you to post a pic of yourself. Of course, you chickened out like the loser that you are. 
I didn't post my pic because I am preparing for the Mr.Getbig, so I want to surprise people with my physique. It has nothing to do with you. Like I said, you have the muscularity of a thirteen year old girl, so what do I have to fear? I challenged you to a competition that will actually be judged and evaluated, unlike posting a few pics, which proves nothing. You are chickening out, which makes you a bitch because it was orginally
you who challenged me to compare physiques. What a coward you are.
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