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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25650 on: March 02, 2007, 04:30:16 PM »



finally, a great comparison. 

this shot should explain why BOTH were so great.

yates has the edge in back mass and thickness.

coleman has the edge in lb and glutes.

yates is much harder and both are pretty dry.

i give the very slight edge to dorian.  balance is huge in this pose.

ronnie has no calves and his glutes are too big.

But the striations in the lower back that Hulkster refers to are in fact skin folds. And notice how Coleman's skin folds are higher indicating inferior conditioning.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25651 on: March 02, 2007, 04:35:24 PM »
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25652 on: March 02, 2007, 07:52:33 PM »
But the striations in the lower back that Hulkster refers to are in fact skin folds. And notice how Coleman's skin folds are higher indicating inferior conditioning.

LOL, How come you're the only one that thinks this? Coleman has a tighter lower back there. If it wasn't tighter, it would be really smooth and you would not see the seperation in the lower back, but it's obvious that you can clearly see more of a seperation in Coleman's lower back.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25653 on: March 02, 2007, 08:11:54 PM »



finally, a great comparison. 

this shot should explain why BOTH were so great.

yates has the edge in back mass and thickness.

coleman has the edge in lb and glutes.

yates is much harder and both are pretty dry.

i give the very slight edge to dorian.  balance is huge in this pose.

ronnie has no calves and his glutes are too big.

Both guys look great. They both look hard. Ronnie's glutes don't look out of proportion in that shot because Ronnie's has huge hams and thighs to go with those glutes. So far you haven't mentioned hams, arms or the size of there thighs. Ronnie wins in the hams department and not to mention, Ronnie's thighs make yates thighs look like toothpicks. Ronnie has better arms. yates arms look like twigs on a tree. Both guys are as wide and have pretty much the same back mass and detail. If balance is huge in this pose, then explain yates small arms, small hams and small thighs? If you look at the picture correctly, yates upper body is over powering his lower body. yates has better calves, no doubt. Over all they both look good, but I think Ronnie looks more complete in the rear latspread.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25654 on: March 02, 2007, 08:36:48 PM »
Dorian wins those comparisons.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25655 on: March 02, 2007, 08:43:05 PM »
Dorian wins those comparisons.

sure he does ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25656 on: March 02, 2007, 09:02:48 PM »
Both guys look great. They both look hard. Ronnie's glutes don't look out of proportion in that shot because Ronnie's has huge hams and thighs to go with those glutes. So far you haven't mentioned hams, arms or the size of there thighs. Ronnie wins in the hams department and not to mention, Ronnie's thighs make yates thighs look like toothpicks. Ronnie has better arms. yates arms look like twigs on a tree. Both guys are as wide and have pretty much the same back mass and detail. If balance is huge in this pose, then explain yates small arms, small hams and small thighs? If you look at the picture correctly, yates upper body is over powering his lower body. yates has better calves, no doubt. Over all they both look good, but I think Ronnie looks more complete in the rear latspread.

that particular shot, arms dont have much of an impact. 

i think mainly bc both guys are straight on and you cant even really see that well.  yes, ronnie's arms are bigger but it has little impact due to the view and angle.  yates triceps are clearly visible, just not as large as ronnie's.

yates' traps and rear delts are more prominent.  rear delts in that pose will cause for the appearance of more width.

dorian's traps are thicker showing that his back is indeed thicker.

as far as hamstrings go, both look to be about the same size.  even structurally.  as far as equal width on the back of the leg.

ronnie's leg is at an angle, displaying more of the muscle - the right leg - where as yates is straight on.

that is actually good posing on ronnie's part.

but the left leg, as far as striations, along with the low back are pretty much equal.

yates wins this comparison  by a small margin for the thicker back, better rear delts, and calves.

also, dorian's lats insert lower for a more impressive effect. 

THIS MAY BE THE BEST COMPARISON PHOTO IN THIS ENTIRE THREAD.  SAME ANGLE AND LIGHTING CONDITIONS.





another great comparison due to the same lighting conditions and angle.



yates showing dramatic superiority in everything excpet bicep peaks.

however, ronnie was not at his peak. 
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25657 on: March 02, 2007, 09:20:01 PM »
THIS MAY BE THE BEST COMPARISON PHOTO IN THIS ENTIRE THREAD.

not even close. The only reason you believe that is b/c it favors Dorian a lot. He looks to be 2 inches taller than Ronnie in that comparison even though he's 1 inch shorter in person. Dorian is also not in contest conditioning like Ronnie. Notice the thin layer of fat and water on Dorian's lower back? The extra weight gives him an even greater size advantage in addition to being taller in the comparison.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25658 on: March 02, 2007, 09:37:09 PM »
that comparison also makes dorian's and ronnie's waist size the same, when in reality Ronnie has a much smaller waist.

thus, in real life, Ronnie's taper would be even more dramatic.

advantage: Ronnie easily.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25659 on: March 03, 2007, 02:01:15 AM »
typical.


but i was refering to both ronnie and dorian being at the same angle for the pic as well as the same lighting conditions. 

you guys need to think of some better excuses. 
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25660 on: March 03, 2007, 02:30:23 AM »
typical.

but i was refering to both ronnie and dorian being at the same angle for the pic as well as the same lighting conditions. 

you guys need to think of some better excuses.

bwahahahahahaha, I can't think of a better reason why it's an unfair comparison than wrong scaling. Lighting can mask or enhance definition, but it can't add something that isn't already there. You either have separations and striations or you don't. However, making someone larger than they are is, in effect, giving that person more muscle than they really have.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25661 on: March 03, 2007, 02:54:52 AM »
that particular shot, arms dont have much of an impact. 

i think mainly bc both guys are straight on and you cant even really see that well.  yes, ronnie's arms are bigger but it has little impact due to the view and angle.  yates triceps are clearly visible, just not as large as ronnie's.

yates' traps and rear delts are more prominent.  rear delts in that pose will cause for the appearance of more width.

dorian's traps are thicker showing that his back is indeed thicker.

as far as hamstrings go, both look to be about the same size.  even structurally.  as far as equal width on the back of the leg.

ronnie's leg is at an angle, displaying more of the muscle - the right leg - where as yates is straight on.

that is actually good posing on ronnie's part.

but the left leg, as far as striations, along with the low back are pretty much equal.

yates wins this comparison  by a small margin for the thicker back, better rear delts, and calves.

also, dorian's lats insert lower for a more impressive effect. 

THIS MAY BE THE BEST COMPARISON PHOTO IN THIS ENTIRE THREAD.  SAME ANGLE AND LIGHTING CONDITIONS.





another great comparison due to the same lighting conditions and angle.



yates showing dramatic superiority in everything excpet bicep peaks.

however, ronnie was not at his peak. 

Ronnie's higher skin folds are also visible in the 95 rear double biceps shot. He has oddly shaped skin folds that can look like striations.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25662 on: March 03, 2007, 03:18:28 AM »
  NeoSeminole is the dumbest guy in this thread bar none. No, seriously. Pumpster takes a far second. I was away for a couple of days and just read his reply to my latest post. Why the fuck should I reply to this guy again if his post was a rehash of his previous reply, after I took the time to explain to him why he is wrong? I mean, he just repeated verbatim everything he already said before. :-\

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25663 on: March 03, 2007, 03:54:31 AM »
NeoSeminole is the dumbest guy in this thread bar none. No, seriously. Pumpster takes a far second. I was away for a couple of days and just read his reply to my latest post. Why the fuck should I reply to this guy again if his post was a rehash of his previous reply, after I took the time to explain to him why he is wrong? I mean, he just repeated verbatim everything he already said before.

ha ha ha ha, already with the lame excuses? I assure you that I didn't repeat myself verbatim what I said in the post before that. I can even re-post both of my responses to prove they are different. However, there's no need b/c you know as well as I do that I'm telling the truth. You're just looking for any excuse to change subjects after getting your ass handed to you.

By the way, I'm still waiting for you to show me where I challenged you to a posedown. ;D

You posted your pics a few months ago and challenged me to a posedown

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25664 on: March 03, 2007, 05:56:01 AM »
I love how the dorian nuthuggers are all up in arms just because a 1999 Ronnie is killing old Wrinkles in the back lat spread! Its so typical.  Countdown to excuses!!!

so much for retarded claim about dorian having better mandatories.

Ronnie has a better back lat, and better all of these too!
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25665 on: March 03, 2007, 06:03:33 AM »
funny thing about the pics is in the rear lat spread comparison dorian is being murdered(thats obvious) but ronnie lower body balance looks as good if not better. dorians calves are gigantic and his hams are small in comparionson.

the 01 arnold pic of ronnie hitting the MM his calves are in near PERFECT proproption with his quads. looks like his quads are smaller then usual. leading to awesome balance through the whole body.

for some reason the dorian nuthuggers think that dorians massive calves and smaller quads arent a proportion issue. his calves dominate his quads in alot of the pics that get posted. oh well, i guess they will just ignore that and claim dorian was as close to perfect as possible.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25666 on: March 03, 2007, 06:13:39 AM »
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for some reason the dorian nuthuggers think that dorians massive calves and smaller quads arent a proportion issue. his calves dominate his quads in alot of the pics that get posted. oh well, i guess they will just ignore that and claim dorian was as close to perfect as possible.

not only that, his twigs on a barrel arms and lack of good shapely mucles didn't help either :-\:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25667 on: March 03, 2007, 06:36:11 AM »

THIS MAY BE THE BEST COMPARISON PHOTO IN THIS ENTIRE THREAD.  SAME ANGLE AND LIGHTING CONDITIONS.



THIS MAY BE THE BEST COMPARISON PHOTO IN THIS ENTIRE THREAD.  SAME ANGLE AND LIGHTING CONDITIONS.


THIS IS CLEARLY ONE OF THE MOST WARPED POSTS OF THE THREAD. Yet another example of icecold the groupie's bias. It CAN'T POSSIBLY be an accurate comparison, given the contradiction in the following picture in which they're standing together. It demonstrates without any doubt that Coleman's back is clearly wider with a smaller waist, and THIS WAS BEFORE COLEMAN BLEW UP.

Translated: Icecold's a lovesick idiot with no objectivity or credibility. Selects only pics that distort in ways consistent with the self-delusions.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25668 on: March 03, 2007, 08:57:58 AM »
not even close. The only reason you believe that is b/c it favors Dorian a lot. He looks to be 2 inches taller than Ronnie in that comparison even though he's 1 inch shorter in person. Dorian is also not in contest conditioning like Ronnie. Notice the thin layer of fat and water on Dorian's lower back? The extra weight gives him an even greater size advantage in addition to being taller in the comparison.

Ronnie's legs are spread apart that would explain why he's shorter a layer of fat and water  ::) Dorian has a more complete rear latspread , lets says all other things are equal Dorian still wins because he has calves bottom line , now all other things are not equal in reality Dorian has advantage in bulk , conditioning ( contest ready ) balance & proportion and density this is the reality of the situation , Ronnie can't win this pose or most other due to these facts.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25669 on: March 03, 2007, 08:58:31 AM »
that particular shot, arms dont have much of an impact. 

i think mainly bc both guys are straight on and you cant even really see that well.  yes, ronnie's arms are bigger but it has little impact due to the view and angle.  yates triceps are clearly visible, just not as large as ronnie's.

yates' traps and rear delts are more prominent.  rear delts in that pose will cause for the appearance of more width.

dorian's traps are thicker showing that his back is indeed thicker.

as far as hamstrings go, both look to be about the same size.  even structurally.  as far as equal width on the back of the leg.

ronnie's leg is at an angle, displaying more of the muscle - the right leg - where as yates is straight on.

that is actually good posing on ronnie's part.

but the left leg, as far as striations, along with the low back are pretty much equal.

yates wins this comparison  by a small margin for the thicker back, better rear delts, and calves.

also, dorian's lats insert lower for a more impressive effect. 

THIS MAY BE THE BEST COMPARISON PHOTO IN THIS ENTIRE THREAD.  SAME ANGLE AND LIGHTING CONDITIONS.





another great comparison due to the same lighting conditions and angle.



yates showing dramatic superiority in everything excpet bicep peaks.

however, ronnie was not at his peak. 

The first pic is agood, but not that great  rear latspread comparison.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25670 on: March 03, 2007, 09:06:07 AM »
This covers all the IFBB judging criteria , this is a text-book world class rear latspread

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25671 on: March 03, 2007, 10:27:05 AM »
This covers all the IFBB judging criteria , this is a text-book world class rear latspread

it can be a textbook world class rear lat spread and still not be as good as ronnie's.

hope this helps.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25672 on: March 03, 2007, 11:10:11 AM »
it can be a textbook world class rear lat spread and still not be as good as ronnie's.

hope this helps.

Oh yeah sure its not like Dorian has the edge in the criteria the judges specifically look for like size , density , conditioning and balance & proportion lol maybe going by the Hulkster-internet-fan-boy criteria it's not as good but there is criteria and it favor's Dorian  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25673 on: March 03, 2007, 11:35:46 AM »
ND is a broken record.


that plays gibberage

I mean, you keep typing all that total bullshit as if it is true or even validated by the comparison pics and videos.

but its not.

and you just keep on typing.... :-\ ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #25674 on: March 03, 2007, 11:36:48 AM »
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Oh yeah sure its not like Dorian has the edge in the criteria the judges specifically look for like size , density , conditioning and balance & proportion

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